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Originally Posted by combusean
I've lamented that, but yes, that cat's out of the bag. I just look at it with the city having big britches to fill.
It should also be noted that the expansion of Phoenix's skyline away from downtown and back again over the decades has been market initiated and responded to with planning. The Central Corridor plan that envisioned unlimited heights along Central was replaced by the Urban Villages plan around the time Metrocenter was being built out in the late 1970s. Accordingly, if a property owner wants a gap filler between the Ho and McDowell, it's ridiculous to stand in their way over skyline aesthetics--that's a level of NIMBYism that you find in San Francisco.
There is, however, some valid consternation that RAA might have, although it's not too far from where much larger projects have been proposed such as Museum Towers where The Willa is and the KLM? proposal that Muse is on now.
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Oh, I don't think it has a thing to do with aesthetics (for the neighbors, who have a lot of other issues, or for the seller, who is looking for pure $$). None of the neighbors are particularly NIMBY either. The land there is currently zoned as unlimited density (which is different than other parcels with much higher height limits). I think that the owner also wants to get rid of the parking lot and gate on the north side of Artisan, to create a through street. There are also issues with a drainage ditch (which they don't own) behind the property. There are no site plans being discussed, and there is little offered in the way of changing density, streets, or setbacks. If the owner wants to get some cooperation at changing the height, the neighbors probably want an actual conversation that involves concrete details and concessions that make it more of a negotiation.
Just an outsiders perspective that doesn't vilify either side. This isn't the same situation as the South Central light rail group. Just residents who want to be talked to rather than danced around.
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