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Old Posted Aug 24, 2018, 2:44 AM
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It should have been the tallest building in New York.


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This building will join the Chrysler building in an exclusive club of outstanding design that defines NY.

Hopefully 53W53 will be classified landmark status.
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It should have been the tallest building in New York.
I wish that this was built at a time when it would have stuck out more in the skyline. It's a great building no doubt, but if it had been built even 5 years earlier, it would have had a much more significant impact on the skyline.

IIRC, this was in development hell for a long time, was it not?
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2018, 4:48 PM
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I wish that this was built at a time when it would have stuck out more in the skyline. It's a great building no doubt, but if it had been built even 5 years earlier, it would have had a much more significant impact on the skyline.

IIRC, this was in development hell for a long time, was it not?

It was, as was a lot of other developments that eventually got built. Wasn't that long ago things looked a lot different everywhere constructionwise. But yeah, this tower definitely needs to stand out more.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2018, 4:33 AM
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Another look at that topping off...


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ugh 432 Park that is not a good look
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2018, 12:12 PM
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I wish that this was built at a time when it would have stuck out more in the skyline. It's a great building no doubt, but if it had been built even 5 years earlier, it would have had a much more significant impact on the skyline.
You actually have it backwards. If it came 5 years *later* it would have been another 200 feet taller.

This was the only known case of a building being chopped down by the mayor's administration in the last decade or so. Amanda Burden reduced the originally proposed height of 1200' to ~1000' because she feared this would 'compete with the Empire State Building.' Little did she know there would soon be another 5-6 proposals taller than the ESB, from Hudson Yards to One Vanderbilt to the POS-y 432 Park Ave.

The cruel irony is that the absolute best-designed building of the pack - Tour Verre - was the only one cut down, and the others grew right past it.

There's a real lesson in here about giving bureaucrats too much control over decisions they shouldn't be making
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^ Amanda Burden was caving into community (NIMBY) pressure. She thought that reducing the height was a way to satisfy the NIMs while also allowing the tower to go up. Burden was from the Bloomberg administration and they were actually pro development but they also were into listening to the "community."
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This one is kind of a disappointment, the structure should have been expressed on the exterior. They really could have just built a "conventional" tower in this shape instead of going through all the effort with the cross bracing. The facade could be just all planted on as a "graphic" in the curtain wall system, you wouldn't know the difference.

That and the height cut. Wonder if the height cut forced them to VE the heck out of this to make it economic, and thats why we lost the expressed structure.
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^^^ Except you couldn't. The cross bracing is still structural even though it's not expressed on the exterior. Without them the interior would require way more columns thus changing the entire layout of the units.
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^ Amanda Burden was caving into community (NIMBY) pressure. She thought that reducing the height was a way to satisfy the NIMs while also allowing the tower to go up. Burden was from the Bloomberg administration and they were actually pro development but they also were into listening to the "community."
The Burden hate on this site is kind of crazy because if anyone actually googled her they'd realize that she's done amazing things for New York and is partly responsible for this skyscraper renaissance that's happening now.
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Old Posted Aug 31, 2018, 3:28 AM
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The Burden hate on this site is kind of crazy because if anyone actually googled her they'd realize that she's done amazing things for New York and is partly responsible for this skyscraper renaissance that's happening now.
Amanda Burden did do good things. She was a firm believer in density, which I like. But on this, she screwed up. Big time. Now, I've said this before - the tower in its current form is actually better looking than it was originally, with better massing. But that's just the point - the original design wasn't fully completed when the 200 ft height was chopped off. So if they were going to send Nouvel back to work on the tower anyway, why not just let him continue to work on the original design? The crap about not being worth of the Empire State building was nonsense. It would be interesting to see what Burden thinks of the towers that are taking over the Midtown skyline now - none of them better than 53w53. (Well, Steinway puts up a fight).
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I remember coming here over 10 years ago seeing the renderings and proposal for this tower. In the back of my high school business writing class.

I cant believe its finally topped off.
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Another look at that topping off...

That's a really, really, great picture. It shows just the top of the tower, and the guys show how small of a space the top really is, despite how visible the tower itself is. The amount of fog also makes it look like the top is all there is, that it exists in a giant void. I can almost feel the air up there just looking at it.

On a side note, why does the guy in the first picture have the F-word on his back?
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Looking at that pic leaves me in awe of architects, engineers, and construction workers. No amount of money in the world could convince me to do what they're doing 1,000 ft in the air.
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Looking at that pic leaves me in awe of architects, engineers, and construction workers. No amount of money in the world could convince me to do what they're doing 1,000 ft in the air.
Risky for them. Rewarding for us. Those are the guys that put the skyline together, regardless of the weather.



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Beautiful building, regrettably it will soon be overwhelmed by everything else going on in midtown. Not much of a chance to stand out.
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Beautiful building, regrettably it will soon be overwhelmed by everything else going on in midtown. Not much of a chance to stand out.
That's not the worst problem to have..."we have so many tall buildings going up that the 1,050 foot tall one is going to be lost amongst them"

TV is still very visible from almost any point outside of the island...it's obscured by taller buildings, and I doubt it will be for a very long time.
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