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Old Posted Jun 10, 2019, 6:28 PM
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I was thinking the exact same thing—currently watching it and pulled up the page to see this Soviet-style monstrosity.
it's almost like they took design elements from The Lighthouse and just threw on some balconies
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Proposed concepts to the conservatory at the old Mendel Gallery site. I like the modular and pronged concepts the best.

Source: https://thestarphoenix.com/news/loca...c-conservatory

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Old Posted Jun 10, 2019, 6:48 PM
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This Baydo thing is all political posturing. We release Meng Wanzhou and they call the whole thing off.
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Proposed concepts to the conservatory at the old Mendel Gallery site. I like the modular and pronged concepts the best.

Source: https://thestarphoenix.com/news/loca...c-conservatory
At first glance I really like the "modular" option as something that could be iconic but I wonder about the cost of building such a structure to a high quality of design and finish (Remai quality, not Baydo quality). Clearly these are very preliminary sketches without a lot of design rigour or costing applied.

But in the end I think the current south exposure of the conservatory and landscaped forecourt is really important to the original design concept of the Mendel, so to build directly on to that side or conceal it from view with a new structure would be a disservice to what is now a heritage building.


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For that reason I favour any option that is offset from the north-south organizing axis of the Mendel Building to preserve the south exposure. It looks like the "expand" option is the only one that does that, but I would like the pods too if they were spatially offset like that:



This is to say nothing about how on earth this project will be funded, given the talk about a new arena/convention centre and central library. I've been told that an expanded conservatory would be intended to be revenue-generating by being able to accommodate weddings and special events. I suppose a capital fundraising campaign and introducing an admission fee would be on the table as well.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2019, 8:35 PM
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^^^^ I agree with your comments. The cost and final look will change most definitely, these are early concepts.

I think much, or all, of the existing building should be maintained as much as possible. The reason I like the two options mentioned is to the linear nature of the buildings. The conservatory always felt as a separate node to the art gallery, and these two additions are a continuation of that. The modular does have a physical separation from the existing structure which is nice. And it would create an enclosed courtyard setting between the buildings.

Side note, but I wonder if there is a way to come up with a concept to accentuate and bring the ferry dock into the overall design, if they push the addition towards the river. The dock seems hidden and looks dated.
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I would love for it to become something as great or greater than the Muttart Conservatory's Pyramid botanical gardens in Edmonton. They sure are a tourism attraction and place for us permanent folk to take our minds off of the winters, and get exposed to some different climates in the summer. We could name the domes "Atchison Domes"



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The Muttart Conservatory is one of my 5 year old nephew's favourite places to go....and he is very much a "little jock", but still loves walking around the 'pyramids'.

I think the combination of the Children's Museum and the Conservatory is a winner! Hope it actually happens.
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While we're on the topic, some fantastic photos of the exhibits at Nutrien Wonderhub have been shared on their facebook page:







https://www.facebook.com/wonderhubsk/
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When I first saw the Baydo proposal I wasn't against it, but after reading the materials on what should be, yikes. I'm all in favour of more height but this is the type of development that adds fire to the NIMBY flame. Saskatoon needs smart developments which provide benefits to the wider community whether they commercially or aesthetically. This proposal provides nothing but a sister prison to go along with the Holiday Inn downtown.

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We could name the domes "Atchison Domes"
Only if they are relocated to Stonebridge.
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Baydo is staying mum on its plans for the 25th St site but in a news release today announced that they'll be building their Broadway project. No mention of a start date but the tweet is a screenshot of the release, so that detail might be cropped out.
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When I first saw the Baydo proposal I wasn't against it, but after reading the materials on what should be, yikes. I'm all in favour of more height but this is the type of development that adds fire to the NIMBY flame. Saskatoon needs smart developments which provide benefits to the wider community whether they commercially or aesthetically. This proposal provides nothing but a sister prison to go along with the Holiday Inn downtown.
I've been thinking about this lately as well... where a poorly designed development can be counter-productive to the cause of infill and intensification.
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Baydo is staying mum on its plans for the 25th St site but in a news release today announced that they'll be building their Broadway project. No mention of a start date but the tweet is a screenshot of the release, so that detail might be cropped out.

Well, I've been wrong before!

Taken today:




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I think the Luxe would classify as recent residential. By the way didn't Ken Achs try to build his at least this high?
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Old Posted Jun 11, 2019, 7:29 PM
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I think the Luxe would classify as recent residential. By the way didn't Ken Achs try to build his at least this high?
I think the release states that it is the first residential rental to be built in the area since the 70s, which seems about right. Good to see developers providing options near the core, even if they leave something to be desired.

That said, I think the Broadway proposal is somewhat better than the city park monstrosity.

Urban Capital, basically.
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I would love for it to become something as great or greater than the Muttart Conservatory's Pyramid botanical gardens in Edmonton. They sure are a tourism attraction and place for us permanent folk to take our minds off of the winters, and get exposed to some different climates in the summer. We could name the domes "Atchison Domes"



Or maybe a smaller version of the Canada's Diversity Gardens they are building in Winnipeg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlyFuTasXk8
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2019, 8:19 AM
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I wonder if it's recent pressure that's got Baydo moving on Broadway? The timing is right for some positive press for these guys, so was it really just a technical delay?

The render seems a bit improved, with a brick texture going up the middle and the brick around the balconies. I believe it was just like an orange paint before. The podium looks fine, actually. Very Vancouver. Haha.

But if they can't pull this one off, one that's been in the pipe for much longer, how can they begin DT in less than 30months (they bought it last year)? A condition of sale is to begin work within 3 years.

I'm all for rentals, as a lot of people are in Saskatoon for a few years to go to school and what have you. My scepticism stems from the fact I phoned them for information on rentals. They got back to me on what I was looking for. Cool. But I mentioned specifically this Broadway development and if it would be ready in a couple of years for a student of mine who wishes to go to the UofS, and never heard from them again. Wouldn't it be prudent to make a list of interested renters if the building was on track?

Hopefully all this complaining results in some positive progress for Baydo and their plans. I hope they have the financial backing - which is so often lacking in the big project reveals - and that they do have success, turning that excellent location off 25th into an oasis by the park...by thinking outside the Box(es)!
Just because they're rentals doesn't mean they have to be fugly. Another example from Vancouver is that several recent social housing projects look better than a lot of the market condo buildings! Good luck, Baydo!
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Re. 880 Broadway

This is slightly better than the "City Park Atrocity" but part of that's just due to its smaller scale I think.

The podium looks OK but a bit boring. But the whole thing together looks like a mess. I don't care for the strong horizontal elements on the tower that conflict with the vertical elements on the podium, and I don't like the small windows on what I presume will be vast expanses of stucco. Other than the colours the tower and podium look totally incongruous. I think some clever design could tie the podium and tower together and at least obscure the current appearance of "cheap cheap cheap" a little bit.
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Baydo's Broadway project looks like mostly siding over stucco to me. Likely a combination of sheets and plank. It also looks like they took elements that work well on a house or town house project and transferred it to this. At best I'd say it looks 'meh' and I think Broadway deserves better! Hopefully some tweaks can spruce it up a bit. I do like the idea of adding some rentals to the market though!
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2019, 2:29 PM
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Wow that Canada's Diversity Garden is pretty darn cool. I personally love these dome's full of tropics more than an art gallery and would love to have seem the same amount of money put into something of that scale here in Saskatoon. Those domes really improve the mood of people in the winter here - especially after the rough one we just came off of.
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Agree....the Diversity Garden in Winnipeg looks like it will be amazing! We can only hope for something as good...I do like the domes option in the Saskatoon version...nothing like that in Saskatoon, as of now.
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