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Old Posted Jun 7, 2015, 5:42 PM
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I hope you're right about that. While the Chief Peguis extension is nice they really messed up the intersection with Lag. I don't understand why this city is allergic to interchanges and merge lanes. Even the right hand turn has a traffic light when there is easily enough room for a merge lane. Instead you have to come to a complete stop for a minute or so till the light changes.
There is a merge lane on the CP Trail off Henderson when you turn East coming from the south on Henderson, 90% in Winnipeger's have no clue as what to do and stop at the yield even though the third merge lane extends 4-500 meters past the turn. Merge lanes work great but not for Winnipeg drivers!
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2015, 7:30 PM
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Actually, the lane is an acceleration lane. You proceed into it when you are able to accelerate and enter traffic at the speed of the traffic. You never enter such a lane and sit there.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2015, 7:40 PM
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Actually, the lane is an acceleration lane. You proceed into it when you are able to accelerate and enter traffic at the speed of the traffic. You never enter such a lane and sit there.
Except that no one actually uses that lane, they stop at the yield, wait for an opening and then drive right into the right hand lane, cars approaching in that lane then brake so as not to hit the vehicle that has just entered the lane.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2015, 7:41 PM
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Yeah, people are idiots.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2015, 8:07 PM
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Yeah, people are idiots.
Not at all. They're used to yield lanes that spit you directly into somewhat fast-moving traffic. So it's actually pretty safe to assume that you need to stop or at least slow down at a yield because the exceptions are so exceedingly rare in this city.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2015, 9:57 PM
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Not at all. They're used to yield lanes that spit you directly into somewhat fast-moving traffic. So it's actually pretty safe to assume that you need to stop or at least slow down at a yield because the exceptions are so exceedingly rare in this city.

But that's the right thing to do. The wrong thing is to then ignore that the lane exists in front of you while you're entering traffic.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2015, 2:46 PM
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Another large part of the problem in Manitoba is that drivers refuse to yield to right lane to entering traffic even when there is more than one lane and the other lanes are clear and safe to move over into. The poor road design and lack of proper driver testing is so embedded into our culture I doubt it will ever change.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2015, 2:49 PM
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But that's the right thing to do. The wrong thing is to then ignore that the lane exists in front of you while you're entering traffic.
Exactly! I'v almost rear ended several people because they slammed on the brakes and stopped instead of using the merge lane to accelerate to the speed of traffic. That seams to be a Winnipeg driver thing as a bunch of us are way to timid with high speed driving.
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Old Posted Jun 8, 2015, 3:37 PM
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There is a merge lane on the CP Trail off Henderson when you turn East coming from the south on Henderson, 90% in Winnipeger's have no clue as what to do and stop at the yield even though the third merge lane extends 4-500 meters past the turn. Merge lanes work great but not for Winnipeg drivers!
Anyone who stops in this yield when I am behind them hears me obnoxiously leaning on my horn. Unless someone alerts these people that they are doing something wrong, then they will never learn.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 5:50 PM
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The result of 'YIELD' signs in Winnipeg.....



They would be better off using the word 'MERGE' than using yield, or posting a sign showing a car with an arrow merging between to well spaced cars. Or, just a simple 'FLOOR IT sign, would still be appropriate.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 6:14 PM
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Your Next Driver's Test may include.....

....a 'Show me,.....Tell me section'.

For example:

The driving test is your opportunity to demonstrate that you can use a car safely. You need to be able to show that you can control it, stay observant and anticipate the behaviour of other road users – all at the same time. But in addition to this you need to know how the machine works.

The ‘show me, tell me’ element of a driving exam will test you on this. Your examiner will expect you to know how the main components of the car function and, most importantly, how to perform very basic maintenance. This list, divided into ‘show me’ and ‘tell me’, contains everything you might be asked to identify during your test.

Show me…

… how you could check that the brake lights are working. For this you’ll need to ask the examiner (politely) to stand behind the car and tell you if the brake lights come on when you press the brake pedal. You’ll need to have the key turned in the ignition, but the engine switched off. It’s sometimes possible to check in the reflection if there’s a window or suitably shiny building nearby.

… how you check the power steering fluid. This isn’t actually as complicated as it sounds – for the test it is sufficient to turn the engine on and wiggle the steering wheel. It shouldn’t feel heavy or difficult to turn.

… how you would wash the windscreen using the car’s built-in windscreen washer. This one is very straightforward. Switch the ignition on and pull whichever lever in the cabin makes the windscreen washer come on. This will usually be to one side of the steering wheel.

… how you can check whether the indicators work. The easy way of doing this is by switching on the hazard lights (which will usually have a large, prominent button somewhere on the dashboard) and then checking from the pavement.

… how you demist the windscreen and rear window. To get rid of condensation on the windscreen, adjust the controls so that warm air is being blown onto it. For the rear windscreen there will usually be a ‘rear window demister’ button which directly heats the glass.

… how you check if the horn is working. It’s unlikely that anybody would struggle with this (just press the centre of the steering wheel or horn button and listen for a beep) but remember that this test can only be conducted off the public road.

… how to switch the fog lights on. The location of a fog light switch varies from car to car, with some being on the same lever that controls the headlights and others being a separate switch by the driver’s right knee. Explain that you would check if the fog light warning has appeared on the dashboard, and that you would only use the fog light if the visibility has dropped below 100 metres.

… how to check the handbrake is in good condition. With the car stationary and with the handbrake on, put your foot on the foot brake. Then release the handbrake – the car shouldn’t move at all. Pull the handbrake up again (fairly firmly, with the button pressed) and it should stop before the end of its working travel. This basically means that it should feel like it’s doing something – the handbrake lever shouldn’t come up too high and should become too hard to move, rather than hit against something solid-feeling.

… how to control the main beam and dipped beam. For this you’ll need the ignition switched on. Headlight controls are normally either on a lever on the steering column or a large, round switch on the dashboard. Show the examiner you know how to switch the lights on, then switch on main beam, and switch main beam back off again. There will be a warning light on the dashboard that alerts you to the fact that the headlamps are on – your instructor will want you to point it out.

Tell me…

… how you would check the engine oil level. Explain that the car needs to be cold and on a level surface. You would open the bonnet, remove the dipstick and wipe it clean with a suitable cloth (one that won’t leave fluff on the dipstick). Then, after pushing the dipstick as far as it will go back into its housing, you would remove it and check that the oil level is within the two notches on the dipstick itself.

… how you would check the engine coolant level. There will be a coolant tank in your engine bay, and in most modern cars it’s translucent and easily accessible. With the bonnet safely open, check the level of coolant either by looking at a visible meter on the side or by opening the lid and peering in.

… where the windscreen washer reservoir is and how you check it. This will be another translucent container in the engine bay, which you may need to open up to get an accurate idea of how much fluid is inside.

… where the brake fluid reservoir is and how you’d check it. In the engine bay there will be a brake fluid meter. Ensure the fluid level is within the notches, or at a level determined in the manual.

… how to check that the brakes are working properly before starting a journey. You would start the engine and drive forwards slowly, before dabbing the brake gently to stop the car. The brake pedal should feel firm.

… how you would check tyre pressure and know when to stop inflating the tyre. You would need a tyre pressure gauge, either manual or electronic, to check the pressure. The correct pressures (there will sometimes be different pressures for front and rear tyres, as well as for towing or carrying heavy loads) will be in the manual and usually on the inside of the driver’s doorframe.

… how you would check that the tyre tread is safe and legal. The legal minimum tread depth is 1.6mm – you would use a tyre tread depth gauge to measure this. You would also check that this depth was maintained for at least ¾ of the width of the tyre and that there were no cuts, irregularities or bulges on the tyre.

… how you would ensure that the head restraint is adjusted correctly. The head restraint – often referred to as the headrest – should be configured so that its hard part is as high as the top of your ears. It should be as close to your head as is comfortable.

… how you would ensure that the headlights and tail lights are working correctly. You would switch on the ignition, turn on all the lights and then exit the car to check from the pavement.

… How you would know if there was a problem with your anti-lock brakes. When your car starts, there will often be several warning lights on to begin with. If your anti-lock brakes warning light fails to go ‘off’ after a short while, there is a fault with the system.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2015, 7:08 PM
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The MB Road Test has included a number of those indirectly for at least 10 years now.

That said "bonnet" and "tyre" suggest this list is not from Canada.
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Old Posted Jul 11, 2015, 8:34 PM
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Looking at the Lord Selkirk West Kildonan meeting agenda and it appears that the area councilors would like the city administration to look at implementing a Chief Peguis Trail Extension West Transportation Levy.

Apparently this would be similar to the “Charleswood Transportation Levy”,and with similar charges against lot development in areas where new residential and
commercial development will in the future require access to the western expansion of the Chief Peguis Trail.

Makes sense to me to have the people that would benefit from it pay more of the costs, than sticking it to the city at large.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 2:54 PM
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^^ The sad part is they are around 25 years late with the levy. A large portion of North Kildonan, Riverbend and Amber Trails all should have had that levy applied against them. Much like the developments along Bishop and Waverly West should have had similar levies.

Just imagine telling someone facing a $200,000+ land fee in Waverly West that the development you are moving into needs a major collector street and three new grade separated crossing (Waverly & Perimeter, Waverly & Bishop, and Kenaston at Bishop) so your share is...
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 3:25 PM
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Went down CPT the whole way going east for the first time in a long time the other day, and coming up to the end it was so dangerous. The light was read and cars were stopped but it happened very abruptly and you couldn't really tell from too far out due to the curvature of the road surface.

It REALLY needs some "Prepare to stop" flashers, as there's no warning you're about to hit a dead end stop. For people driving it not from Winnipeg who are used to proper freeways not ending in the middle of nowhere, it could be very bad, especially in winter.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 5:03 PM
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Went down CPT the whole way going east for the first time in a long time the other day, and coming up to the end it was so dangerous. The light was read and cars were stopped but it happened very abruptly and you couldn't really tell from too far out due to the curvature of the road surface.

It REALLY needs some "Prepare to stop" flashers, as there's no warning you're about to hit a dead end stop. For people driving it not from Winnipeg who are used to proper freeways not ending in the middle of nowhere, it could be very bad, especially in winter.
Wow, people really complain about literally anything. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the visibility of that light. Such a bizarre thing to complain about. It's not even the most obstructed light on Chief Peguis, the intersection at gateway is obstructed because of the overpass and you can't see the through light til you're right on top of it. I drive that route constantly and have never seen anything close to an accident.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 5:15 PM
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For people driving it not from Winnipeg who are used to proper freeways not ending in the middle of nowhere, it could be very bad, especially in winter.
People from outside of Winnipeg driving on these types of roads are not used to seeing traffic lights at all.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 5:27 PM
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People from outside of Winnipeg driving on these types of roads are not used to seeing traffic lights at all.
If you aren't comfortable driving on the streets of another city perhaps you shouldn't drive on the streets when visiting that other city? Too bad driving is the only option for 98% of the city...
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 5:55 PM
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If you aren't comfortable driving on the streets of another city perhaps you shouldn't drive on the streets when visiting that other city? Too bad driving is the only option for 98% of the city...
Or maybe the lone first world city holdout on building proper expressways should at least try to catch up with everyone else.

If this levy they are talking about is pushed through it may help, but as CoryB said it should have happened right from the start. However knowing Winnipeg, this levy would probably go towards construction costs of the roadway itself and not towards any actual improvements such as grade separations.
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2015, 6:06 PM
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It's not uncommon to see routes like CPT and BG, which are basically expressways that include at-grade intersections, in other cities that have full-on freeways. It shouldn't be that alien of an experience.
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