Freeport-McMoRan Center (One Central Park East) - Phoenix, AZ - Page 32

Vicelord John · #**621** Posted **Jan 11, 2009, 11:22 PM**

Yeah sim city 4 i downloaded it from some fan site a few years ago

Downtown_resident · #**622** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 12:08 AM**

This forum is intended to be about more than just skyscrapers, despite its name. Read the blurb at the top of the discussion pages: "The global membership discusses development news and construction activity on projects from around the world, alongside discussions on urban design, architecture, transportation and many other topics."

Forced to choose, I'd rather have a great streetscape with retail and pedestrian activity than a bunch of tall buildings that sit atop dead streets. But they're not mutually exclusive-- when done right, each helps the other.

http://downtownphoenix.blogspot.com

PhxPavilion · #**623** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 7:24 AM**

If you're looking for urban living and walkable areas you need more density. If you want more density you need more people, if you want more people you need more places to live or work, if you want more places to live or work in a dense area you need to build up. Density and towers generally (not necessarily) go hand in hand.

Tfom · #**624** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 3:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

Yeah sim city 4 i downloaded it from some fan site a few years ago

Have you guys seen the new city life game? It looks like they are trying to take over since maxis threw in the towel.

Vicelord John · #**625** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 5:07 PM**

Yeah it looks like a cheap spin off. No zones, you plop down the buildings you want... Part of, er most of, the fun in sim city is the challenge of building a vibrant dense city. This new one you control everything built... No thanks.

glynnjamin · #**626** Posted **Jan 12, 2009, 6:06 PM**

Ya, I appreciate the dynamic factor of SimCity. I like how no two cities will ever look alike and how your manipulation of property values and transportation is what determines what gets built. It is always great to watch a blighted low-income community go turn into a dense high-rise area after dropping a few subway stops nearby, adding a couple parks, and rezoning some neighborhoods to commercial. Just like real life...go figure.

flyer84 · #**627** Posted **Jan 14, 2009, 7:29 AM**

Decided to take the light rail downtown this afternoon. Here are some photos of OCPE I took:

neworleans · #**628** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 5:59 AM**

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Decided to take the light rail downtown this afternoon.

were there a lot of people riding the light rail?
The facade on that building is !!!!! BEAUTIFUL !!!!!

flyer84 · #**629** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by neworleans

were there a lot of people riding the light rail?
The facade on that building is !!!!! BEAUTIFUL !!!!!

On my ride from Tempe-downtown Phoenix it was about 2:45 and there was not very many people. However, when I took the light rail back at 4 from downtown Phoenix, it was very crowded. All seats were full and several people were standing. It wasn't back to back full but still very crowded. From my opinion, I think it looks like the light rail is going to be rather successful here in Phoenix. Especially in the next 10 years or so when more transit-oriented developments are built up around the stations.

gymratmanaz · #**630** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 5:13 PM**

I too am impressed by the numbers. I wonder if there are any official counts. Every time I ride, even during off times and weekends, it is well filled. I almost always have to stand, which I don't mind. I also see that all the time, seats are offered to women, children, or elderly.

HX_Guy · #**631** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 6:58 PM**

I heard official counts won't be out until mid February, but preliminary estimates show between 20,000-30,000 daily riders so far.

PHX31 · #**632** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 7:08 PM**

How do they count ridership? Simply through fare revenue (ticket purchases)?

HX_Guy · #**633** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 7:25 PM**

The article I read said that there are electronic monitors at every door that count how many people get in/out. It'll be a good way to see how many people board and how many people are actually paying as well.

pbenjamin · #**634** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 7:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHX31

How do they count ridership? Simply through fare revenue (ticket purchases)?

Officials: Light-rail ridership meeting projections

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Metro light rail estimates it is on track to meet or beat its ridership projections for the year.

The agency puts out its first official monthly totals in the middle of next month. But based on estimates, Metro believes its daily ridership from Monday of this week to today ranges from 20,000 to 30,000.

The monthly totals will be based on automated counters in train doorways. Metro did a first-week estimate to give an early snapshot on ridership.

Metro had projected that the 20-mile system that connects Phoenix, Tempe and Mesa would average 26,000 daily boardings per work day in its first year. Metro opened on Dec. 27, and this week was its first full week of paid service.

Metro expects a bump in ridership when Arizona State University students return to class later this month. Metro runs near ASU's Tempe and downtown Phoenix campuses.

Arizona Republic - January 9, 2009

gymratmanaz · #**635** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 7:59 PM**

That is great news!!! great for present and future rail additions....It also supports businesses thriving and being added along the route.

Vicelord John · #**636** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 8:31 PM**

OCPE looks like Times Square to me.

gymratmanaz · #**637** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 8:36 PM**

Like the whole square? WOW! Now that's a building.

I agree, it is a sharp looking building!!!! More of them would be awesome!!!

PHX31 · #**638** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 8:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by HX_Guy

The article I read said that there are electronic monitors at every door that count how many people get in/out. It'll be a good way to see how many people board and how many people are actually paying as well.

yeah. good points.

LAFINDOG · #**639** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 10:30 PM**

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OCPE looks like Times Square to me.

Don't you mean the NY Times Building?

Vicelord John · #**640** Posted **Jan 15, 2009, 10:55 PM**

no I mean times square.

There is some building there that has the same "crown" as ocpe. I don't know whos building it is or why it is there, but it looks the same.