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Originally Posted by dales5050
If you knew anything about tech companies, not 4 folks starting an app but true employer powerhouse tech companies, you would know the last place they would locate would be in a downtown core.
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Amazon, Salesforce, Twitter and Uber are just a few of the tech giants located in urban centers. Downtown San Diego is becoming a startups hub. General Electric and many others are moving into urban centers. Millennials (the talent) prefer urban environments to live and work. A simple google search of articles relating to tech and urbanism will tell you that.
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GE move could signify larger trends toward cities
But the nature of GE’s Fairfield headquarters — along with details about its preferred landing spots — raise the possibility that costs may only play one role, and that the company leaning toward the kind of centralized, walkable communities that are in fashion now and away from an isolated, suburban office park like its current space.
http://www.ctpost.com/business/artic...es-6746382.php
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Do your research...
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Tech companies are more inclined to have a campus outside outside of the beat and path.
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Yeah, in the 90's. Where have you been? This is definitely not the case today as tech migrates from the suburbs to downtowns across the nation, again, do your research and you will see this time and time again.
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If you want to talk about education centers, a redeveloped Mission Valley with the Q gone and SDSU and UCSD taking up space would be a good example of an area where spin off companies from the research and programs at those schools would want to locate.
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Yes, because counter to the current trend in the market, tech companies would love to move to suburban environments...
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You know..because that's where the talent pool is located....
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Again, please do your research and brace yourself for reality.
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If you want critical thinking you need to stop looking at the map from such a simple perspective.
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Have you looked at a map of where higher density development is permitted in this county? Do that, and you will quickly become educated as to why EV and downtown is so valuable to our future housing supply.
*hint, its the only area that allows such densities*
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The reason why the EV is a popular projection for urban development is two-fold. The first is that's it's underdeveloped at the current time. The second is that it's close to mass transit.
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And three, its actually zoned for growth. Other areas are underdeveloped and close to mass transit, but are not zoned for more. Only downtown and EV are.
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If you put your personal agenda and preferences to the side and think critically, the key to unlocking the solution to the housing and office needs of the region is transit oriented development. Because San Diego is going to need much, much more than the EV to be developed to max capacity to solve the issue it's going to be presented in the future.
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Agreed, except our wonderful communities are nowhere near as embracive of transit oriented development as downtown or EV. Not Hillcrest. Not Golden Hill. Not even North Park or Little Italy. Read any community planning update and you will not find the kind of zoning allowed in their draft documents.
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Ask yourself why does the opportunity for 'urban development' in the EV end at the 5? Why can't you run a straight line trolley down Market from Santa Fe to the 15? There is block after block of underdeveloped parcels that are just outside of downtown.
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Zoning currently and proposed for the future is not going to be significant enough in that area, and changing it to a higher density equal to the EV is never going to happen since the community and city leaders in those areas are not supportive of it.
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Are you saying a developer wouldn't find interest in building a dense urban mixed use project that had easy access to the 5 and 94 freeways, in addition to, a straight line trolley line into the heart of downtown? Because if you are, you really have no business talking about urban development.
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Developers would love to build more homes! That means more money. The problem is with native San Diegans. They are no inclined to support higher densities in their communities. Developers would build up our urban neighborhoods more if they could, but regulations and zoning restrictions keep them out. Whereas in the EV, they don't face such obstacles.
And the area you're specifically mentioning (Sherman Heights, Logan Heights, Grant Hill) just updated its community plan to allow for marginally higher densities along the trolley line. However, those densities aren't even close to what we would need to make it similar to downtown or EV. This just happened, did you not read or hear about it? (surprising...)
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The Chargers are going to leave. Hooray! You're still left with a problem that the EV is not going to solve but now what are you going to bitch about?
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Based on your responses you do not seem to be aware as to why or how communities develop (or do no develop) in San Diego, nor are you aware as to the current commercial and residential market trends towards urban centers across the nation. Please research and read about land use, community planning, real estate trends and the shifting millennial market before you go off the handle on topics you clearly have very little knowledge of.
Thank you.