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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 3:01 AM
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I actually like this one much better than the previous. Simpler and cleaner. Better sited.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 3:07 AM
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Sorry but that just looks mediocre. Once again every decent proposal in Atlanta gets VE'd.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 3:50 AM
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What, if anything are they doing with that steel skeleton on Adina at Morosgo. At one time they were going to put up a 15 story condo but the deal fell and the frame sat there for a decade.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 11:37 AM
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Sorry but that just looks mediocre. Once again every decent proposal in Atlanta gets VE'd.
It's not really value-engineering when the original proposal was a different developer.

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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 12:04 PM
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Sorry but that just looks mediocre. Once again every decent proposal in Atlanta gets VE'd.


This has nothing to do with value engineering. The city issued and RFP for the land it owns overlooking Piedmont Park/ The Beltline and this is one of those proposals. Invest Atlanta has agreed to sell the land to Fuqua and his partners for the proposal that includes a grocery on the condition that they can get the site rezoned.

The architecture is meh but I think this proposal is more in line with what both the Beltline master plan and the city design process had designated for that location. I know most of us are very pro-development here but I think there are legitimate concerns with the Fuqua & partners proposal. Adding more traffic to that cluster of an intersection and where we are putting density needs to be considered. IMO that is the kind of project that really needs to go on some of our underdeveloped corridors such as (North, Ponce, Northside) that can better accommodate that density.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 1:25 PM
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Is that Sec. 8? The neighborhood will go ballistic!

Plus, why on earth would you have a building that enjoys such great views of the park, right on the belt line - without any balconies? Not even Juliet balconies?
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 1:45 PM
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Plus, why on earth would you have a building that enjoys such great views of the park, right on the belt line - without any balconies? Not even Juliet balconies?
Exactly, this looks like it is a GA Tech classroom, not a luxury residential project on the lawn of Piedmont Park.
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It's not really value-engineering when the original proposal was a different developer.

*sigh*
There were three different proposals for this site and every proposal is worse than the last. Why are we building cheap motel style architecture on the cusp of Piedmont Park? Let's just not build anything or just go townhomes and be done with it since we're so worried about density there?

Simply put the amount of single family neighborhoods and HOAs is why Atlanta will never be a cohesive dense urban city in our lifetimes. Even PHX has a better chance of it than Atlanta.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 3:27 PM
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There were three different proposals for this site and every proposal is worse than the last. Why are we building cheap motel style architecture on the cusp of Piedmont Park? Let's just not build anything or just go townhomes and be done with it since we're so worried about density there?

Simply put the amount of single family neighborhoods and HOAs is why Atlanta will never be a cohesive dense urban city in our lifetimes. Even PHX has a better chance of it than Atlanta.
But how is developing walkable density in a place that is not adjacent to any other walkable density going to create a "cohesive" dense urban city? This is exactly my point.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 3:59 PM
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But how is developing walkable density in a place that is not adjacent to any other walkable density going to create a "cohesive" dense urban city? This is exactly my point.
If the litmus test for new density is: "adjacent to any other walkable density" - I think the bar is unrealistic. The Beltline at build out will be 33 miles. Realistically what percentage do you think will be cohesively dense in the next 20 years?
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 4:44 PM
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But how is developing walkable density in a place that is not adjacent to any other walkable density going to create a "cohesive" dense urban city? This is exactly my point.
Then build townhomes/rowhouses there. Let's not build cheap looking apartment blocks that look like section 8/low-income on the cusp of Piedmont Park.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2018, 5:59 PM
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Then build townhomes/rowhouses there. Let's not build cheap looking apartment blocks that look like section 8/low-income on the cusp of Piedmont Park.
Like I said, this is just one of the designs that were presented for the site owned by the city and not the one that is even being considered for development. The Fuqua plan is whats on the table for this site. Btw, the Invest Atlanta requirement that a % of the development is affordable housing will require a development that includes apartments.
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Invest Atlanta board to vote on two mixed-use projects

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If approved, a $97 million "inducement" resolution would state Invest Atlanta's intent to support Los Angeles-based Atomic Entertainment LLC's plan to turn the century-old Pullman Pratt Yard into a mixed-use district with office space, a boutique hotel, restaurants, bars, a sound stage for film and TV productions and a live music venue.

A second resolution on the Invest Atlanta board agenda would support up to $42.8 million in bond financing for a transit-oriented development (TOD) project on the south side of MARTA's Edgewood-Candler Park station. Columbia Ventures is planning a five-floor 224-unit residential unit over a performing arts center and park.
https://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/...mixed-use.html
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2018, 12:48 PM
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Midtown February 2018 DRC Recap

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Two projects on the February DRC agenda – the first was a follow-up presentation about the dual-brand hotel proposed at 640 Peachtree. The development team opted to defer until a subsequent date.

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The second was a new application for a mixed-use development proposed at 1150 Spring Street, comprised of two towers – a 250,000 SF office building and a 360,000 SF (338 unit) residential building (known as NOVEL Midtown). The development team is Greenstone Properties and Crescent Communities with HKS and Niles Bolton as the architects and Kimley-Horn as the engineer. The 2.5 acre site has frontage on both Spring Street and Williams Street. It sits behind two large billboards facing 14th Street and is adjacent to a Georgia Power substation on the south. From an urban design perspective the site has the opportunity to reconnect 13th Street, which currently ends at Spring. Midtown Alliance identified a street extension at this location as a critical component of the SPI-16 district’s connectivity plan, which was incorporated in the zoning update approved by City Council last year. The DRC asked the applicant to reconsider the site layout for the mixed-use project in order to address this important element of the design. The applicant will make a follow-up presentation to the DRC at a subsequent meeting.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2018, 1:57 PM
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Two projects on the February DRC agenda – the first was a follow-up presentation about the dual-brand hotel proposed at 640 Peachtree. The development team opted to defer until a subsequent date.
The organization, Noble Investment Group, is a very successful, yield-focused hotel developer closely affiliated with the Indian community. Like it or not, in Atlanta the developers call the shots. Their portfolio is comprised of generic hotels in mainly suburban locations. It's likely the product at 640 Peachtree will be something like this Seattle rendering.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2018, 2:15 PM
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The organization, Noble Investment Group, is a very successful, yield-focused hotel developer closely affiliated with the Indian community. Like it or not, in Atlanta the developers call the shots. Their portfolio is comprised of generic hotels in mainly suburban locations. It's likely the product at 640 Peachtree will be something like this Seattle rendering.
What is it with theses dual - triple brand hotel buildings? When I am traveling, working hard, staying up late, going to dinner and having a few too many cocktails...I end up not even knowing what the hell hotel I am staying. Cheese-n-Rice, this trend needs to stop!
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