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Old Posted Jul 10, 2014, 11:38 PM
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890-900 Bank St | 30m | 9f | Completed

Canderel has submitted a Site Plan Control application for the lands located at 890-900 Bank Street.

The site is located in the Glebe community of Ottawa, in the block bounded by Bank Street to the east, Thornton Avenue to the north, Monk Street to the west and Holmwood Avenue to the south.

Canderel is proposing to demolish the existing one (1) storey automobile service centre and Beer Store and construct a two (2) storey commercial building with a maximum height of 11.6 metres. The proposed building is to include 4,633 square metres of gross floor area (GFA). A large retail tenant is proposed at the second-storey level, while the Beer Store is expected to move into a new space at ground level, along with a number of new commercial tenants.


Development documents:
http://app01.ottawa.ca/postingplans/...appId=__90BZUA

Canderel's project site:
http://www.canderel.com/node/851

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Old Posted Jul 10, 2014, 11:39 PM
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Grocery store could be built on Bank Street, near Lansdowne Park

Carys Mills, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: July 10, 2014, Last Updated: July 10, 2014 5:24 PM EDT


A Glebe retail development, which may include a grocery store, is being proposed close to Lansdowne Park on Bank Street.

Developer Canderel Realties Inc. wants to build a two-storey building at 890-900 Bank St., near Holmwood Avenue, beside bagel store Kettleman’s Co.

The existing Beer Store and auto centre on the site would be knocked down. The new building’s ground floor would include a Beer Store location, other retail and restaurants. “A larger-format retailer is proposed for the second storey, such as a grocery store,” states the application that was filed to the city late last month.

An underground parking garage would have 62 spots, which is a reduction from the required 100 spaces, according to the application. There will also be on-street parking on Bank and side streets, the developer says.

A bylaw amendment would be required for the reduced number of parking spots and a reduced corner side yard setback.

“Street parking is available and could be added on Bank Street and Thornton Avenue, and the site is conveniently accessible by active transportation,” the application says.

A “small outdoor patio” is being contemplated for street level on Bank, although that would require a separate application to the city.

“The proposed development will intensify a site with surface parking and automobile-oriented uses that is underutilized and not in conformity with the Traditional Mainstreet designation,” the application says.

If approved, the development will be close to the Lansdowne redevelopment, which will include a Whole Foods and LCBO that are due to open in November.

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Grocery store could be built on Bank Street, near Lansdowne Park

Carys Mills, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: July 10, 2014, Last Updated: July 10, 2014 5:24 PM EDT


A Glebe retail development, which may include a grocery store, is being proposed close to Lansdowne Park on Bank Street.

Developer Canderel Realties Inc. wants to build a two-storey building at 890-900 Bank St., near Holmwood Avenue, beside bagel store Kettleman’s Co.

The existing Beer Store and auto centre on the site would be knocked down. The new building’s ground floor would include a Beer Store location, other retail and restaurants. “A larger-format retailer is proposed for the second storey, such as a grocery store,” states the application that was filed to the city late last month.

An underground parking garage would have 62 spots, which is a reduction from the required 100 spaces, according to the application. There will also be on-street parking on Bank and side streets, the developer says.

A bylaw amendment would be required for the reduced number of parking spots and a reduced corner side yard setback.

“Street parking is available and could be added on Bank Street and Thornton Avenue, and the site is conveniently accessible by active transportation,” the application says.

A “small outdoor patio” is being contemplated for street level on Bank, although that would require a separate application to the city.

“The proposed development will intensify a site with surface parking and automobile-oriented uses that is underutilized and not in conformity with the Traditional Mainstreet designation,” the application says.

If approved, the development will be close to the Lansdowne redevelopment, which will include a Whole Foods and LCBO that are due to open in November.

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http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...lansdowne-park
One might remember that Canderel also bought 852 Bank Street, the site of an old garage at the corner of fifth av. At the time of purchase they said it would be a "signature retail location". So not only new retail at Lansdowne, but along Bank close to Lansdowne, courtesy of Canderel.


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Canderel is developing 852 Bank Street into a signature retail development, taking advantage of this exceptional high-visibility location. This one-of-a-kind development presents a unique opportunity for retailers to be on one of the most prominent and busiest corners in the heart of the Glebe.

852 Bank Street is a 8,900 sq. ft. site on the corner of Bank Street and Fifth Avenue, having 70 feet of frontage along Bank Street and 150 feet along Fifth Avenue. This location gives retailers the opportunity to be on one of the most significant corners in the Glebe, with flexibility of suite sizes ranging anywhere from 800 to 16,000 sq. ft. over two floors.

852 Bank Street is located in the Glebe, which is a highly affluent neighbourhood with a vibrant pedestrian culture. The redeveloped Lansdowne Park will host Ottawa's new CFL team, the new North American Soccer League, the OHL team and numerous cultural events, concerts and festivals. Additionally, it will be home to a large variety of new retailers (360,000 sq. ft.). 890-900 Bank will benefit from the transformation of the Lansdowne Park area into Ottawa's premier shopping and entertainment lifestyle centre

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Seems like a bit of a waste. An extra 4-6 floors for condos or a hotel (why do we not have a hotel at Lansdowne?) on top would have been a smart idea.

Maybe when someone develops Ketlleman's Bagel.
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It reminds me a bit of this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.39053...4Bv6xpgWoA!2e0

this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.42932...nTBmbBIvHw!2e0

or even this:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.39328...P42h57EaMw!2e0

Not all development needs to be tall. That said, I have to wonder how many of these are temporary structures that will be torn down and replaced by something tall when the time is right.
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North of Fifth, I wouldn't want anything over 3, maybe 4 floors built, with the exception of Chamberlain/Isabella. In fact, north of Fifth, nearly everything should be protected as is.

South of Fifth however, should be built up 6 to 14 floors considering its proximity to Lansdowne. this is the gateway to the Glebe, sort of like the gateway to Little Italy, without the 30-50 floor buildings.
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Maybe when someone develops Ketlleman's Bagel.
Some of us buy bagels at Ketleman's. Still, the existing Beer Store is incredibly ugly and it would be good to see it go. I've heard that the grocery store could be Sobey's.
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Ketleman's is an institution and would rent space nearby in my scenario.
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Canderel is proposing to demolish the existing one (1) storey automobile service centre and Beer Store and construct a two (2) storey commercial building with a maximum height of 11.6 metres. The proposed building is to include 4,633 square metres of gross floor area (GFA). A large retail tenant is proposed at the second-storey level, while the Beer Store is expected to move into a new space at ground level, along with a number of new commercial tenants.
Two whole storeys?

The Glebe children will die of shade. The ones that the wind tunnel doesn't get, anyway.
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Between the existing Loblaws, McKeen Metro, and new Whole Foods (as well as a planned Food Basics north of the Queensway), isn't the Glebe set for grocery stores?

If any neighbourhoods need grocery stores, it's Hintonburg, Golden Triangle, and Chinatown.
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Between the existing Loblaws, McKeen Metro, and new Whole Foods (as well as a planned Food Basics north of the Queensway), isn't the Glebe set for grocery stores?

If any neighbourhoods need grocery stores, it's Hintonburg, Golden Triangle, and Chinatown.
No to mention the specialty food stores, such as the Glebe Meat Market, Kettleman's Bagels, French Baker, Nicastro...

And Shoppers Drug Mart also sells food.
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Between the existing Loblaws, McKeen Metro, and new Whole Foods (as well as a planned Food Basics north of the Queensway), isn't the Glebe set for grocery stores?

If any neighbourhoods need grocery stores, it's Hintonburg, Golden Triangle, and Chinatown.
Where is the planned food basics?
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Where is the planned food basics?
Isn't one going in the podium of the SoBa condo development? (Maybe it's a Sobey's, I'm not sure)
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I've also heard/been told that it's going to be a Sobey's. Guess this means the end of the Metro.

Seems like a waste of space to me too; with the Lansdowne development at one corner and the Glebe Centre on another, a mixed use structure that smoothly integrates the retirement residence with the rest of the Glebe through multiple floors - say 8 at the Holmwood end and perhaps 3 at the Thornton end - would seem a better option. A two storey glorified strip mall serves only Canderel's interests and doesn't make the best use of the space for the Glebe.

Did they not try to buy Kettleman's or the apartment building at the end of the block? Odd.
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I've also heard/been told that it's going to be a Sobey's. Guess this means the end of the Metro.
Why?
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Presumably, Whole Foods will skim off Metro's more affluent customers and a Sobey's with more than triple the floor space of the Metro will take even more. I suspect it would be difficult for Metro to complete, long term.
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Sobeys makes more sense than Food Basics. Food Basics caters to a low-income/working-class demographic that is becoming increasingly rare in the whole Glebe/Centretown/OOS/Hintonburg, etc. region. It would make very little sense for them to want to open up a new store in a gentrifying area.

Also, Food Basics is owned by Metro. No way would a store have their brands cannibalize each other.

Remember that Metro, Sobeys, Loblaws essentially own all the grocery stores.
-Metro owns Food Basics & SuperC
-Sobeys owns Foodland, FreshCo, Safeway Canada
-Loblaws owns Superstore, No Frills, Independent, Provigo, and a whole bunch more.
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Very quietly, Canderel has started advertising that this project will be mixed use now with condominiums above the retail podium. Interesting.
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I hope they decide to change the design of what they are currently proposing, and build up a few floors to make it a proper mixed-use project for the area. As it stands now, having only two floors, where the upper floor is condos is a waste, IMO. Plus, the current design looks like a pre-fab box with modular retail spaces - something I would expect to see in a business park, not on a main street.


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I would have preferred something like the Midtown Condos in Vancouver:



Or better yet, the B.Streets Condos in Toronto (something with a few random setbacks), but with brown brick instead of the black/grey brick in the rendering:

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