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Old Posted Aug 20, 2017, 5:16 PM
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What is the Upper Midwest?

There seems to be two different conceptions of what constitutes the Upper Midwest.

The more common one seems to be centered in Minnesota and is characterized by its large Scandinavian/German and Lutheran presence

The other definition seems to be defined by Yankee culture and lakes.

Pretty much every definition I think includes Minnesota and Wisconsin. The "Yankees and lakes" definition obviously takes in Michigan, while the "Greater Minnesota" one would take in the Dakotas and perhaps Iowa.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2017, 11:28 AM
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From my geographical perspective, it basically means the part of the Midwest on the lakes, maybe minus those states which only kiss the lakes (Illinois and Indiana) or two far east (Ohio), as these states have large regions whose climate, culture and history differ quite a bit from the stuff on the lakes. I'd say it always includes Minnesota, Wisconsin Michigan and probably the Dakotas (definitely culturally), geographically. In my mind, though, the Dakotas are much more defined by being in the Great Plains. My definitition is really heavily weighted geographically and politically, so the "center" in definition would really be more Wisconsin than Minnesota, where the river splits the state.



Whatever it is, it's definitely not a hard-set definition.
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2017, 11:20 PM
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Is Michigan more similar to Ohio or Wisconsin overall?

Demographically it's more similar to Ohio. If you use emphasize geographic area, probably more like Wisconsin, but the population is concentrated in the southeast of the state, closer to Ohio.
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Born & raised in Chicago. We called ourselves as "Midwest." Never heard the term "upper midwest" until I moved to California.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2017, 9:16 PM
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Born & raised in Chicago. We called ourselves as "Midwest." Never heard the term "upper midwest" until I moved to California.
Illinois isn't really an "upper Midwest" state but I'm surprised it isn't used at all. A lot of Chicagoans vacation in Wisconsin and Michigan.
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Old Posted Aug 25, 2017, 9:32 PM
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Illinois isn't really an "upper Midwest" state but I'm surprised it isn't used at all. A lot of Chicagoans vacation in Wisconsin and Michigan.
when us chicagoans invade wisconsin and michigan en masse every summer, we simply just call it "going north", as in "i'm headed up north for labor day weekend".

because chicago lies in the border region between the upper and lower midwests, we tend to just think of all of it simply as "the midwest".

if there's a more nuanced aspect to chicago's regional identity that many chicagoans might identify with, it's the "great lakes" banner.
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