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Old Posted Aug 21, 2018, 7:18 PM
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6366 Van Nuys Blvd?

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Wow, thanks for sharing those, Beaudry!

These are the ones that don't appear in Barfly (I've darkened the pics a bit to reduce the glare):



1. RECESS ROOM. Wow, I have no recollection of this place at all. Sure looks like a genuine old-fashioned dive, though! I wonder where it was?
There is this, which might be #1:


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Today:


If it's the same, there's been a lot of remodelling. The orginial picture looks like there is a vacant lot next door, but it's so blurry I can't tell for sure. If that were the case, it would argue against 6366.
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Thanks for checking it out for me Lorendoc. I appreciate it.
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The 1912 property was indeed demolished as can be seen from this permit:


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The new property, designed by Charles S. Lee, often mentioned in this thread, was completed 1938 per the county assessor, presumably without the giant box on the new building's roof. Perhaps inspection of the non-digitized permits might find the box's purpose. I will continue to look in the LAT to see if i can find anything.

Here's the 1938 Charles S. Lee replacement building on the NE corner of Hollywood and Cherokee.



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It's got a big clapperboard on the roof nowadays.

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Old Posted Aug 22, 2018, 12:43 AM
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But wait! There's more!
Wow! I love, it Beaudry!

1. ONE FOR THE ROAD.



I honestly have no recollection of this place. Not ringing any bells...

2. THE BLACK LITE!



I always wondered why they didn't put the Black Lite in Barfly! It was the perfect, quintessential Bukowski-style bar. Right in Bukowski's old neighborhood, too, right on Western Ave (1159 N, to be precise), less than a mile away from his home.

The people in there seemed to have walked right out of one of Bukowski's stories... I wonder if those kinds of people still exist, the old barflies, the horse betters, the aging, drunken, sad-luck dames... a bunch of short-story archetypes, congregated together to drown their sorrows.

I'll admit, this place became kind of a hangout for me. There were NO hipsters or anything like that there, only older, sad luck, working class drunkards. It made you feel like you walked right into one of Bukowski's old stories... I guess I did a lot of “slumming” there. Of course, drinks were dirt cheap. it was definitely my favorite LA dive bar.



The building still stands, but sadly, it hasn't been the Black Lite for a long time.

3. THE RUMPUS ROOM.

I'm SURE I saw this place before! I just wish I could remember where. For some reason, I'm thinking it was on a street that ran North-West... maybe Vermont or Normandie?



4. ???



No idea on this one. It almost looks too generic to identify. But at this point (especially after Lorendoc discovered Yoshiko's) I'm pretty much convinced that there isn't ANY place in LA that you folks can't identify!

PS: Unless I'm mistaken (always a possibility!), the most recent “Yellow Pages” for Los Angeles in the City Directory is from 1942...



Is that really correct? Aren't there any newer Yellow Pages online for Los Angeles?

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But wait! There's more!

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Wow, we've been fortunate to have so many dive pictures from the 70s and 80s posted the past few days. From Beaudry's set we have:

1. "One for the Road" was at 4168 Beverly Boulevard
2. "The Black Lite" (or "Blacklite") was at 1159 N Western
3. "Hollyway Lounge" was at 1616 W Sunset
4. "Rumpus Room" at 678 S Alvarado (sadly replaced by a subway station).
5. Don't recognize this one.
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I was pretty sure I remembered it from Koreatown back in those days, Madame lived there(well, she's Korean) when we first met back in the late 80's.
The "Back in time" feature on Google maps is like porno to me
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..speaking of porno



It has only been 4 days since we viewed Russ Meyer's 1958 photo essay
Beauty and the Bust'
...[the bra buying trip to Paulette's Brassieres]

The 'Paulette' post reminded me that I had this photograph of Meyer's house stashed away in an old file of mine.
It shows the house, on Arrowhead Drive in Los Angeles, during the time Russ Meyer lived there in the 1970s.
Anyhoo...I don't believe I ever got around to posting it...so here it is!


Photo by DAVID FRASIER from fleshapoidfilms

The home was built in 1971 (with five, count'em five, bedrooms!) one for each weekday.





Surprisingly, the home is still there and practically unchanged. [Meyer's exuberant paint job is long gone]


you can check it out HERE

The phrase "If only walls could talk" seems especially fitting.

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The Myrtle St./California Ave. off ramp from the 210 Fwy East, places you almost directly across the street from "The Wizard of Bras" at the first signal light. I recall noticing it a few times when exiting the freeway over the years; apparently it's still there.
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For the record, my wife went to The Wizard of Bras when she was getting together her and her mother's wardrobe for our wedding in 1995, and she found the store's offerings to be ludicrously unsatisfactory.

And yes, it's still there, as of about a month ago.
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PS: Unless I'm mistaken (always a possibility!), the most recent “Yellow Pages” for Los Angeles in the City Directory is from 1942...



Is that really correct? Aren't there any newer Yellow Pages online for Los Angeles?
You only seem to have the "Historic City and Business & Phone Directories" selected for your search. The CDs aren't the same after 1942 - LAPL refers to them as "Los Angeles Street - Reverse Directories". On the "Simple Search" tab, I have all three boxes checked under "Search in collections:" on the right. Instead of being listed alphabetically and with businesses being grouped by type, the later ones are organized by street and phone number. There's less information in the later CDs, and watch out for the subtle abbreviation changes, e.g. W 3d St becomes 3rd St W. As you can see below, there's one for 1956, quite a few through the '60s, and then 1973 and 1987.


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..speaking of porno

It has only been 4 days since we viewed Russ Meyer's 1958 photo essay
Beauty and the Bust'
...[the bra buying trip to Paulette's Brassieres]

The 'Paulette' post reminded me that I had this photograph of Meyer's house stashed away in an old file of mine.
It shows the house, on Arrowhead Drive in Los Angeles, during the time Russ Meyer lived there in the 1970s.
Anyhoo...I don't believe I ever got around to posting it...so here it is!


Photo by DAVID FRASIER from fleshapoidfilms

The home was built in 1971 (with five, count'em five, bedrooms!) one for each weekday.




It seems that Meyer interests still own the property as "RM Films International"/the Russ Meyer Charitible Trust (a nice note on porn largesse)--according to the curious picture blog unapasseggiataa.tumblr.com, it was (at least in 2012) the Russ Meyer Museum. "By appointment only. Houses such artifacts as Kitten Navidads douche bag from Beyond the Valley of the Ultravixens."


The house was built in '71--the architect (there was an architect?) was the seriously untalented Louis E Rodwell. The owner was noted on permits as Imperial Savings & Loan--so it seems to have been a spec house. Classifieds offering it for sale--including "plush shag cpt"--appeared in the Times Jan-March 1972:





PS-- I just noticed the old French hotel-rating plaque on the house..a real touch of class, something to offset the burglar bars, peeling wood, and gas pipes...


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The house's owner is listed as RM Films International in the 1987 CD, but someone called Steven Kovary was there in 1973. Maybe he bought it when it was advertised in the LAT.
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For the record, my wife went to The Wizard of Bras when she was getting together her and her mother's wardrobe for our wedding in 1995, and she found the store's offerings to be ludicrously unsatisfactory.

And yes, it's still there, as of about a month ago.
I was there about 18 years ago, before my daughter's wedding. The bras were quite expensive but they fit beautifully.
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It has only been 4 days since we viewed Russ Meyer's 1958 photo essay
Beauty and the Bust'
...[the bra buying trip to Paulette's Brassieres]

The 'Paulette' post reminded me that I had this photograph of Meyer's house stashed away in an old file of mine.
It shows the house, on Arrowhead Drive in Los Angeles, during the time Russ Meyer lived there in the 1970s.
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In the heyday of video rentals, remember VHS tapes, Russ Meyer was a frequent customer at our West Hollywood location. (Video West had three locations.) A quiet and unassuming man, at least in that setting. We had purchased all of his available VHS titles (there were at least a dozen of them) directly from a company he (or his partners) had set up to do so. Interestingly enough, the Russ Meyer films were hugely popular with the mostly LGBT clientele in the West Hollywood store location. I recall the most popular titles being Faster Pussycat Kill Kill! and Mudhoney.

When I recall those days, I wish I'd paid more attention to some of the myriad of people who I crossed paths with at these stores, which were known for having, or finding, almost anything someone was interested in watching. I often wished I'd asked a few questions here and there! A couple of the more eclectic personages in this vein that I came in contact with there are Russ Meyer, David Hockney, Holly Woodlawn, Fawn Hall, Billy Hayes and Rudolf Nureyev.

P.S.: Something I didn't know about Russ Meyer... I was looking up a list of his films on IMDB just now and I noticed this bit of info: "He spent World War II in Europe as a combat cameraman." Maybe that caught my eye because I, and a couple friends, had just recently watched the three part documentary Five Came Back, about the five Hollywood directors who went off in WWII and made a good amount of films about the conflict along with shooting a huge amount of film, a lot of it in color, of this period, and how these experiences shaped their lives. (My friends say the book of Five Came Back, mostly text, is a lot better than the doc. series, although the footage is worth the viewing as a companion to the book. I haven't read it, but enjoyed the series.)
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You only seem to have the "Historic City and Business & Phone Directories" selected for your search. The CDs aren't the same after 1942 - LAPL refers to them as "Los Angeles Street - Reverse Directories". On the "Simple Search" tab, I have all three boxes checked under "Search in collections:" on the right. Instead of being listed alphabetically and with businesses being grouped by type, the later ones are organized by street and phone number. There's less information in the later CDs, and watch out for the subtle abbreviation changes, e.g. W 3d St becomes 3rd St W. As you can see below, there's one for 1956, quite a few through the '60s, and then 1973 and 1987.


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Thank-you, HossC!

As I surmised earlier, I was using the CDs in the incorrect manner. I'd never even noticed the SIMPLE SEARCH tab, and was opening each directory one-by-one, and searching it manually.

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I wasn't even looking at the Reverse Directories, as you can't locate a building by its address if you don't know its address beforehand.

Thanks so much, the Simple Search obviously makes things a thousand times easier!
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It appears that Meyer died in the Arrowhead Drive house. I assumed at first that this was his real grave...


Apparently, he had to settle for Stockton:
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It seems that Meyer interests still own the property as "RM Films International"/the Russ Meyer Charitible Trust (a nice note on porn largesse)--according to the curious picture blog unapasseggiataa.tumblr.com, it was (at least in 2012) the Russ Meyer Museum. "By appointment only. Houses such artifacts as Kitten Navidads douche bag from Beyond the Valley of the Ultravixens."

Classifieds offering it for sale--including "plush shag cpt"--appeared in the Times Jan-March 1972:

I was curious about the "Russ Meyer Museum" so I did me some googlin'.

I believe the term stems from this article in Rolling Stone back in 1985.

"In the July 18-August 1 1985 issue of Rolling Stone director John Waters contributed an article, “Trash Tour of Los Angeles”,
which included the address of Russ Meyer’s home, 3121 Arrowhead Drive, in the Hollywood Hills section of Los Angeles.

The “Pope of Trash”, long an articulate champion of RM’s work, dubbed the director’s two-story chalet the “Russ Meyer Museum”
because nearly every inch of available wall, ceiling, and kitchen cabinet space was festooned with posters, photos,
and memorabilia chronicling his career, wartime experiences, and serial sexual liaisons.

Meyer never forgave Waters
for this transgression even though JW had him on tape saying it was okay to include the address. Russ reportedly roundly
cursed Waters each time a covey of fans dropped by the manse expecting an impromptu tour. I owe John Waters a personal debt
not only because this kind and gracious man has supported my books on murder, entertainment industry suicide,
and showbiz homicide, but more importantly without his Rolling Stone article I never would’ve met Russ Meyer.
John’s travelogue led to a close 15 year friendship with “The King of the Nudies” largely spent working
on his mammoth three-volume autobiography, A Clean Breast."
-David Frasier
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I'm still searching for a photograph of the interior of the house. You'd think there would be one somewhere on the intertubes.

update:

I just FOUND some! [interior shots] I'll post as soon as I finish dinner.

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OK so i wanted to know what the words above the door of Yoshiko's Catalina's successor said. Last night I went to a favorite Korean ice-cream place (Ihwamun, in Little Tokyo) and showed the picture to an employee who read it without hesitation as "mil mul" [corrected from -mun] but didn't know what it meant. Knowing almost zero about the construction of the alphabet, much less Korean computer keyboard layout, nonetheless with the help of the all-powerful GOOGLE, I figured out how to type the letters on the sign as:

밀물 = "high tide"

Corrections appreciated!

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