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Vancouver, developer seek tweaks to waterfront plan

Changes would create incentives to start construction sooner


By Amy M.E. Fischer, Columbian city government reporter

Published: July 15, 2015, 8:30 PM

The city of Vancouver and a private developer want to revise their 2009 agreement to redevelop the Columbia River waterfront, proposing changes that would create a financial incentive to start erecting buildings sooner than later.

"With the passage of six years and actually getting to the stage of building on the site, we're re-looking at our roles and responsibilities. We're re-aligning those to what makes sense in the current environment," City Attorney Bronson Potter said Tuesday. "Things are different now."

The proposed agreement sets a two-year deadline for the developer to begin construction in exchange for repaying millions of dollars owed to the city over a longer time frame.

On Monday, Potter and Barry Cain, president of the Tualatin, Ore.-based company Gramor Development, presented several recommendations for altering the development agreement to the City Council. The council will hold a public hearing and take a vote on approving the amendments Aug. 3. Columbia Waterfront LLC, is a private investors' group led by Gramor Development.

Columbia Waterfront wants to extend the 20-year term of the original development agreement for the project to 25 years because the recession delayed construction. The agreement binds the 32-acre property with the overall project master plan, development goals, open space and street layout.

Here are some of the requested changes to the development agreement:

• At the developer's request, Columbia Waterfront's payment schedule to the city for an $8 million off-site access construction project (which included vehicle underpasses beneath the railroad tracks) would be extended to provide the developer with more cash flow for designs, plans and permits.

The city is proposing allowing Columbia Waterfront to pay the $5.8 million it still owes over a 13-year-period on the condition the first phase of the project is launched within two years. The original agreement had called for repayment on a tighter timeline but with no construction deadlines.

The city felt that in exchange for the payment flexibility, it was reasonable for the city to issue a deadline for the start of construction, Chad Eiken, the city's community and economic development director, said Wednesday.

"When we say commence construction, they have to prove to us they have they financing to build Phase 1," Potter said. "We want to see buildings come out of the ground."

The city is also willing to extend the repayment schedule because it received a federal Housing and Urban Development loan to build the off-site access project, and HUD gave the city a 15-year extension rather than require repayment in full this year, Potter said.

The developer's first development proposal, submitted to the city in a pre-application request, had indicated construction on the first phase of the project would begin this fall. Eiken said he's optimistic Columbia Waterfront LLC will begin construction in the first quarter of 2016.

To hit that time window, the developer needs to apply for permits and get approvals "fairly soon," Eiken said, "but the market conditions seem pretty ripe for development down there, from what we're seeing elsewhere."

• Flexibility of ground-floor building design would be increased by decreasing the required amount of windows, doors and "interest-creating features" from 75 percent to 50 percent on all streets. Due to the irregular configuration of the city blocks, the developer felt 75 percent was too extreme because it doesn't take into account the need for service areas where there can't be windows, such as recycling and trash collection spots, storage areas and rooms with electrical and fire controls.

Eiken added Wednesday that the state energy code requirements make it more difficult to use glass on all four walls of a building. For instance, on a restaurant building with expansive waterfront views, not as much glass could be used on the rear face due to energy code requirements, he said.

• Columbia Waterfront would pay the city an additional $3 million in exchange for the city constructing Columbia Way (cost: $2 million) and core waterfront park improvements ($1 million). Originally, Columbia Waterfront was to build the city park and all the streets on the site, but it made more sense for the city to build them because grant money was available, and the streets are city-owned, Potter said.

• The city and Columbia Waterfront would jointly develop maintenance standards for the city's 7-acre park. Columbia Waterfront would pay the city for 30 percent of annual maintenance costs.

• Public restrooms that serve a planned city park would be allowed to be built as stand-alone buildings rather than be located inside one of the future waterfront buildings.

• All buildings that originally were supposed to be built to LEED Silver or equivalent standard could be built to a comparable standard using another sustainability program. Attaining the LEED standard is expensive and can be cumbersome. Instead, Columbia Waterfront would use the Green Globes and Earth Advantage programs. This change would provide flexibility but wouldn't affect the look of the buildings, Cain told the City Council.

"The sustainability criteria is something we're very concerned about," he said Monday. "You can bet we'll come out at the top of the scale."

• The final change would allow for parking within the first 90 feet above the ground floor if buildings are adequately screened so they don't look like parking garages. Cain said it was proving more difficult than expected to dig down three levels for underground parking.

In addition, Columbia Waterfront plans to eventually build a half-block "pocket park" on Lot 15 of the development, which initially will be used for parking. Columbia Waterfront would own and maintain it.


The roads, curbing and utilities in the $1.3 billion private-public redevelopment project are in place, and over the next few weeks, workers will finish installing streetlights and traffic signals, pouring the rest of the sidewalks and planting landscaping.

Commercial buildings with restaurants are scheduled to start rising around next March. Among the first structures to go up will be two waterfront buildings with restaurants, a 14-story apartment building with 150 units, a condominium building of up to 15 floors and more than 100 units, and a six-floor office building.

"We've got a really good working relationship with the developer, and I think the success of this project is both in the city's and the developer's interest," Eiken said. "Although we might disagree on some of the smaller issues, we're both keeping the big goal in sight, which is to have a vibrant waterfront."
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By: Beverly Corbell in Scrolling Box September 1, 2015 4:06 pm




The Hudson Building may be the first new office building to rise in downtown Vancouver, Washington, in years. But city officials say the project already is spurring more construction in the area.

With completion expected by the end of the year, the three-story, 45,000-square-foot building at East Sixth and Main streets already is more than half leased out. Killian Pacific, the developer of the building that original was called the 101 Building, and project architect Mackenzie plan to move their Vancouver offices into structure, as does Pacific Continental Bank.

While the Hudson’s downtown location is important, it’s the building’s old-warehouse look and feel that make it not only attractive to tenants, but architecturally agreeable with the neighborhood, according to Vancouver Mayor Tim Leavitt.

“The developer has been very thoughtful in the design of the building to see that it both fits in with the existing context and on the inside is state-of-the-art design,” Leavitt said. “They are really addressing the new age of office space and atmosphere for employees.”

Contrary to common practice for buildings of the Hudson’s size, no steel beams were used in the building’s construction, said Noel Johnson, vice president of Killian Pacific. The Hudson is constructed solely of timber, concrete and brick. The building features a solid, load-bearing brick envelope, large glass entrances, and exposed timber beams to create an industrial feel of an old warehouse.

“It’s designed like a warehouse 80 or 100 years ago,” Johnson said. “It pretty much cost similar to a good-quality steel building, but people like it a lot more.”

The vintage feel of the new building is the result of a combination of concrete floors, a high ceiling made of thousands of 2x4s turned on edge, and surrounding brick walls, Johnson said. The building also boasts operable windows, flexible office layouts and plenty of natural light – features that appeal to modern tenants whose tastes are being driven by their young, creative employees.

While renovating old buildings may be the current trend, Johnson points out that there are only so many older buildings available for restoration. At some point, it only makes sense to build new structures that offer a similar look and feel.

“If you can’t restore buildings, then you need new buildings,” Johnson said. “And if you’re going to build a new one, it can be just like an awesome (old) warehouse.”

Heavy timber for the Hudson is made of glulam and the Hudson’s brick walls will be seismically reinforced, Johnson said.

Rich Mitchell, a managing principal with project architect Mackenzie, said the building’s name was selected as a tribute to the Hudson’s Bay Company, which established a fur-trading outpost at Vancouver in 1825.

“The Hudson is a throwback in that it is using a different structural system,” Mitchell said. “For lumber we are using glulam timbers for main beams and girders, and we’re also using a wood deck.

“It’s much like what you can see if you go into an old building in the Pearl District,” he said. “You would see wood decking and big heavy timbers. But the difference between those buildings is they were unreinforced masonry with a heavy timber frame.”

Kyle Warren, senior project manager for project general contractor Turner Construction Co., said this is the first time he’s worked on a building of this type without using steel.

“It’s been a ton of fun to do,” Warren said. “A lot of us builders love wood, especially being in the Pacific Northwest. Having to build with wood of this scale gets a lot of people excited (about) coming to work every day.”

While the design of the Hudson has been a big draw for tenants, Vancouver’s mayor believes its construction points to a future building boom in the city’s downtown area.

“I think we’re on the precipice of growth and construction downtown,” Leavitt said, “and the Hudson Building is leading the way.”
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Vancouver's $1.5B waterfront development lands first tenant
Sep 24, 2015, 11:07am PDT
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A charitable organization that has invested more than $800 million in regional nonprofits over the past 40 years will be the first tenant in the first office building coming to the massive waterfront redevelopment in Vancouver, Washington.

At a waterfront event today, Barry Cain, president of Gramor Development Inc., the firm spearheading the private side of the $1.5 billion development, announced that the M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust has signed a letter of intent to occupy 18,000 square feet of the top two floors of the waterfront’s first new office and retail building on Block 6, which will be at 305 Columbia Way. The trust currently has its offices at 703 Broadway St. in downtown Vancouver. NAI Norris, Beggs & Simpson acted as lease brokers.

The first building will be seven stories offering 61,000 square feet of office space and close to 17,000 square feet of ground floor retail space. There will also be underground parking. Construction is expected to start next spring, and the trust's lease kicks in on Sept. 1, 2017.

"This is exciting momentum with the M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust, because they are the perfect partner to be the first tenant," Cain said in a release. "They've done so much to help communities in Oregon and southwest Washington."

Plans for Block 6 also call for an apartment tower with up to 150 units and retail space. In addition, Gramor Development also announced it had filed the pre-application for two buildings each to occupy Blocks 9 and 12, which will overlook a waterfront park. Both Blocks 9 and 12 will host restaurants.

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It's good to see Vancouver's waterfront getting the redevelopment that was first proposed ages ago. It'll be interesting to compare what it does for the downtown area as a whole.
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Gramor’s Vancouver waterfront project gets road, tenant

By: Garrett Andrews in Real Estate and Development September 25, 2015 12:42 pm



The ambitious downtown waterfront expansion of Vancouver, Wash., 10 years after it was conceived, now has street access and its first tenant.

Developers and city officials announced the opening of Southeast Columbia Way at a dedication ceremony Thursday at that road’s new junction with Grant Street.

Barry Cain, president of Gramor Development, announced that M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust had committed to occupy the top two floors of the waterfront’s first constructed building at 305 Columbia Way. The trust, which has given more than $800 million to nonprofits during its 40 years of existence, currently operates at 703 Broadway St. in downtown Vancouver.

In 2005, Gramor began working on the private portion of Vancouver’s $1.5 billion, 5-million-square-foot waterfront development project. Its 22-block master plan was approved five years later. The first on-site construction – a park – is scheduled to begin in November and finish by mid-2017.

The aim of an ongoing street extension project is to reconnect Vancouver with the industrial area formerly home to wood products manufacturer Boise Cascade. This hasn’t happened in more than 100 years, according to city spokeswoman Carol Bua.

The access project – complete reconstruction of a train trestle near the development – was completed at the end of 2014 for $45 million.

Designs for the development’s main road are being finalized. This $6.5 million project is being partially funded by a $2.7 million state transportation improvement grant. Construction will begin this fall and is scheduled to finish in spring 2015.

Also, Gramor says it’s in talks regarding a 180-room hotel and two restaurants.
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Waterfront development inks first tenant, new renderings revealed

Sep 24, 2015


Gramor Development, the lead developer on downtown Vancouver’s 32-acre waterfront revitalization project, announced on Thursday that it has officially secured its first tenant.

M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust will occupy 18,000 square feet of space on the top two floors of the waterfront’s first constructed office and retail building at 305 Columbia Way, also known as Block 6. The Trust provides a variety of grants and enrichment programs to organizations throughout the region.

“We believe this development has great potential to serve Vancouver, Clark County and the entire region in positive ways and to expand the economic development of the whole area,” said M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust Executive Director Dr. Steve Moore.

According to Gramor, the initial building (pictured above in the center of the newly-released rendering) will be seven stories tall with approximately 61,000 square feet of leasable office space and 17,000 square feet of ground floor retail space, with underground parking. The building will share Block 6 with a retail and market rate apartment tower, featuring up to 150 living units.


“It means a lot,” said Gramor President Barry Cain of the Trust’s commitment. “They are a very solid institution in this town. The way they have invested their money and been inventive in different communities is unbelievable. We’re just so happy to have them as part of the deal. Having them make the decision to come here is a mark of approval for us, as a development.”

The first of many

M.J. Murdock Charitable Trust may be the first organization to officially commit to the redeveloped waterfront, but it certainly won’t be the last. Cain said Gramor is currently working on two restaurant leases and a hotel lease that may be announced to the public within the next month.

“There’s a lot of activity,” said Cain.

Construction on Block 6 is expected to start next spring, along with construction on Block 9 and Block 12, the restaurant blocks.

“We’re going to have five to six restaurants – four of them the size of Beaches,” said Cain. “The two we are currently working with – one is already in the Portland area but not anywhere else and the other is in Southern California and this will be their first location up here. We’re really excited for both of them.”

The master plan for the waterfront development includes approximately 1.5 million square feet of office space. Design and development of the new waterfront park – a key feature of the project – is set to begin in November.
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So how long before this area starts demanding light rail crossing the river? The hardest sell for this development would be trying to convince people to pay almost as much as they would in the Pearl District and expect them to have to put up with traffic over the I-5 bridge every time they need to go into Portland.
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So how long before this area starts demanding light rail crossing the river? The hardest sell for this development would be trying to convince people to pay almost as much as they would in the Pearl District and expect them to have to put up with traffic over the I-5 bridge every time they need to go into Portland.
That's assuming everyone who lives there commutes to Portland. Idk what the area will pan out to be, but vancouver has been working for quite a while to revitalize downtown. This project could be a good catalyst to make the area a destination, not saying it's going to be the next pearl or anything. Maybe it'll wind up being kind of like sowa.
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That's assuming everyone who lives there commutes to Portland. Idk what the area will pan out to be, but vancouver has been working for quite a while to revitalize downtown. This project could be a good catalyst to make the area a destination, not saying it's going to be the next pearl or anything. Maybe it'll wind up being kind of like sowa.
That is a possibility, but I am still expecting a majority of them to be commuting into Portland for work. Though when it comes to rail, I think Vancouver in a whole is dropping the ball on this.
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That is a possibility, but I am still expecting a majority of them to be commuting into Portland for work. Though when it comes to rail, I think Vancouver in a whole is dropping the ball on this.
Vancouver wanted light rail. It was the parts of Clark County that aren't a part of Vancouver that complained.

It's a lot like how Milwaukie wanted light rail, but Clackamas County doesn't.
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Vancouver wanted light rail. It was the parts of Clark County that aren't a part of Vancouver that complained.

It's a lot like how Milwaukie wanted light rail, but Clackamas County doesn't.
It'll be interesting to see how the BRT line pans out. From what I can tell, it's going to run mixed traffic, so I'm not expecting much more than some fancy buses and nice shelters.
I think an impediment to commuting to downtown pdx via a hypothetically extended yellow line terminating in Vancouver is the number of stops and resulting slow speed. A few express yellow/green/blue/orange trains during rush hours that stop at transit centers and select stops would speed things up for commuters from more distant locations. But that's a topic for a different subforum
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The Board of County Councilors is setting up two task forces to examine the possibilities of two toll-free bridges.

Council Chair David Madore said they want a bridge east of I-205 and another west of the airport.

“It starts with a vision. It starts with leadership. It starts with asking the people,” said Madore. “We’ve already asked the people, twice, in Clark County, and they said ‘yes, condition: It must be toll-free.’”
They don't want to pay for anything nor do they want to live in reality.
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“It starts with a vision. It starts with leadership. It starts with asking the people,” said Madore. “We’ve already asked the people, twice, in Clark County, and they said ‘yes, condition: It must be paid for by Oregon with no mass-transit components.’”

Fixed the quote for Madore, what a piece of work that guy is.
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Clark County leaders want new bridges across the Columbia River.

The Board of County Councilors is setting up two task forces to examine the possibilities of two toll-free bridges.

Council Chair David Madore said they want a bridge east of I-205 and another west of the airport.

“It starts with a vision. It starts with leadership. It starts with asking the people,” said Madore. “We’ve already asked the people, twice, in Clark County, and they said ‘yes, condition: It must be toll-free.’”
Well, Davey, there would be a brand spanking new bridge under construction RIGHT NOW if you idiotic WA Republicants hadn't been so hell-bent on killing mass transit across the Columbia. So f*** off and go crawl back into your xenophobic hole. You had your chance two years ago, but your complete LACK of "vision" and "leadership" screwed over your constituents for the next couple of decades. I'm sure all of those Washingtonians sitting in countless hours of bumper to bumper traffic every day will be eternally grateful to you.
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If Vancouver wants another bridge, then Vancouver better come up with the money for it, and don't expect to ask Oregonians to foot the bill. I am all for sticking a toll on our bridges on the Columbia that charges anyone with a Washington plate to cross.
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I could see them possibly adding another bridge someplace over by Gresham where the roads are wider, but Portland's roads and neighborhoods aren't designed to handle the traffic. So I don't think it'll ever happen.

What we really need is a traffic free transit connection north, but I'm told all those rich hipsters in Portland might use it to go to Vancouver and steal televisions. That worries folks up there.
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I could see them possibly adding another bridge someplace over by Gresham where the roads are wider, but Portland's roads and neighborhoods aren't designed to handle the traffic. So I don't think it'll ever happen.

What we really need is a traffic free transit connection north, but I'm told all those rich hipsters in Portland might use it to go to Vancouver and steal televisions. That worries folks up there.
Another Tilikum Crossing for the Columbia would be perfect. That bridge was only $135 million. Even if they double that price for a longer and taller span, it's still less than $300 million. And despite all the xenophobes in rural Clark County, Vancouver actually WANTS MAX service. They would love to connect their brand spanking new Vine BRT directly to MAX. In fact, they designed it to do just that, before the WA Republicans killed the CRC. I think Portland and Vancouver working together would be able to pull it off. Leave Clark County out of the equation.
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Ambitious plans for Vancouver's waterfront

Created on Wednesday, 10 February 2016 00:00 | Written by Julia Anderson | Print

Construction is poised to start this year on the long-planned $1.5 billion Waterfront Vancouver project that is expected to transform the city’s skyline downriver from the Interstate 5 Bridge.

Deemed similar to Portland’s South Waterfront development, Vancouver’s ambitious master plan calls for more than 1 million square feet of Class A office space, a luxury boutique hotel, restaurants and 3,300 units of residential housing, including both condos and apartments. Buildout likely will continue over the next 10 years....More
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