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Old Posted Jul 6, 2012, 10:10 PM
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am i the only one that has noticed a like sudden outburst of new skyscrapers in nyc? is it because its been almost 11 years since 9.11 and builders are finally coming back? im a skyscraper lover so you better believe im happy ^.^
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The main booms were in the late 20s, 60s, and then the late 00s
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wasn't 15 penn plaza canceled? i could be wrong
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wasn't 15 penn plaza canceled? i could be wrong
it's approved. However this won't be built for awhile (years) Vornado announced they would renovate the Hotel Pennsylvania which currently stands on the site. This doesnt mean the tower is dead (despite the word of wikipedia)

the original source : http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...T5Ocs4QFn5IJ/0

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Sources tell us that Vornado Realty Trust is putting off constructing its taller challenger to the west at 15 Penn Plaza until market rents reach a point where it’s worthwhile to redevelop the site with an office building.

In the meantime, Vornado is mulling plowing millions of dollars into renovating its Hotel Pennsylvania, a dowdy cash cow that now sits on the future development site at Seventh Avenue between West 32nd and 33rd streets, across from Penn Station and Madison Square Garden.

according to the original article, Vornado is playing the waiting game until they believe the market is ripe for a new office tower of this size.
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2012, 9:39 PM
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I hope they make it as tall as possible because something tells me it'll be the last NY super-tower we'll see in our lifetimes.

Chicago is much friendlier to tower construction nowadays. Miami is the best.
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Just curious, what hard drug are you using? "lifetime" is subjective, are you 90 years old? Then yes it will probably be the last supertall you will see in NY in your lifetime.
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Update:
107 West 57th Street, 697ft (212m), Proposed NOW
107 West 57th Street, 687ft (212m), Proposed (55 floors)

New proposals added (only 200m+ as always):

1. 125 Greenwich Street (22 Thames Street), 637ft (194m), Proposed. Likely to exceed 200m+

2. Public New York (855 6th Avenue), 656ft+ (200m+), Proposed

3. 111 Washington Street, 656ft+ (200m+), Proposed (57 floors)

4. 80 South Street, 845ft (257,56m), Proposed
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5. Citypoint Tower 1 (Downtown Brooklyn), 680ft (207,26m), Approved
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2012, 12:45 PM
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1,000 footers:

1. One World Trade Center, 1787ft (544,7m), Under Construction (steel topped out)
2. 432 Park Avenue, 1420ft (432,8m), Under Construction (height not final; min: 1380ft / max: 1700ft)
3. Two World Trade Center, 1349ft (411,2m), Under Construction
4. Hudson Yards North Tower, 1292ft (393,8m), Approved
5. Empire State Building, 1250ft (381m), Completed [1,454ft (443,2m) when counting the spire]
6. 225 West 57th Street, 1250ft (381m), Site Preparation (likely to exceed 1300ft)
7. 15 Penn PLaza, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
8. One Manhattan West, 1216ft (370,6m), Approved
9. Bank of America Tower, 1200ft (365,8m), Completed
10. Three World Trade Center, 1155ft (352m), Under Construction
11. Conde Nast Building, 1118ft (340,7m), Completed [when counting the spire]
12. The Girasole, 1060ft (323,1m), Approved (likely to exceed 1400ft)
13. Tower Verre, 1050ft (320m), Approved
14. Chrysler Building, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
15. New York Times Tower, 1046ft (318,8m), Completed
16. Hudson Yards South Tower, 1017ft (310m), Site Preparation
17. One57, 1005ft (306,3m), Topped Out
18. Hudson Yards Mixed-used Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
19. One Hudson Yards, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Site Preparation
20. Sherwood Tower, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed
21. Madison Ave & 42nd Street, 1000ft+ (304,8m+), Proposed (likely to exceed 1400ft)



900 footers:

1. Four World Trade Center, 977ft (297,8m), Topped Out
2. American International Building, 952ft (290,2m), Completed
3. Bloomberg Tower, 941ft (286,6m), Completed [when counting the spire]
4. One Madison Avenue, 937ft (285,6m), Proposed
5. Two Manhattan West, 935ft (285m), Approved
6. 40 Wall Street, 927ft (282,6m), Completed
7. Citigroup Center, 915ft (278,9m), Completed
8. 30 Park Place, 912ft (278m), Under Construction (currently on hold)



800 footers:


1. Beekman Tower, 891ft (271,6m), Completed
2. Trump World Tower, 861ft (262,4m), Completed
3. Port Authority Bus Terminal Tower, 856ft (261m), Approved
4. GE Building, 850ft (259,1m), Completed
5. 80 South Street, 845ft (257,6m), Proposed
6. 56 Leonard Street, 821ft (250,2m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
7. Cityspire Center, 814ft (248,1m), Completed
8. One Chase Manhattan Plaza, 813ft (247,8m), Completed
9. Met Life Building, 808ft (246,3m), Completed
10. Hudson Yards Residential Tower, 800ft+ (243,8m+), Proposed


700 footers:

1. Woolworth Building, 792ft (241m), Completed
2. 1 Worldwide Plaza, 778ft (237m), Completed
3. Carnegie Hall Tower, 757ft (231m), Completed
4. 383 Madison Avenue, 755ft (230m), Completed
5. 1715 Broadway, 753ft (230m), Topped Out
6. AXA Center, 752ft (229m), Completed
7. One Penn Plaza, 750ft (229m), Completed
8. 1251 Avenue of the Americas , 750ft (229m), Completed
9. Time Warner Center North Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
10. Time Warner Center South Tower, 749ft (228m), Completed
11. Goldman Sachs Headquarters, 749ft (228m), Completed
12. 60 Wall Street, 745ft (227m), Completed
13. One Astor Plaza, 745ft (227m), Completed
14. 1 Liberty Plaza, 743ft (226m), Completed
15. 20 Exchange Place, 741ft (226m), Completed
16. 7 World Trade Center, 741ft (226m), Completed
17. Three World Financial Center, 739ft (225m), Completed
18. Bertelsmann Building, 733ft (223m), Completed
19. Times Square Tower, 726ft (221m), Completed
20. Metropolitan Tower, 716ft (218m), Completed
21. 250 East 57th Street, 715ft (218m), Under Construction
22. 50 West Street, 714ft (218m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
23. 610 Lexington Avenue, 712ft (217m), Under Construction (currently on hold)
24. Nobu Hotel and Residences, 709ft (216m), Approved
25. JPMorganChase Tower, 707ft (216m), Completed
26. General Motors Building, 705ft (215m), Completed
27. Metropolitan Life Tower, 700ft (213m), Completed
28. 5 World Trade Center, 700ft+ (213m+), Approved


600 footers:

1. 500 Fifth Avenue, 697ft (212m), Completed
2. 107 West 57th Street, 697ft (212m), Proposed
3. Americas Tower, 692ft (211m), Completed
4. Solow Building, 689ft (210m), Completed
5. HSBC Bank Building, 688ft (210m), Completed
6. 55 Water Street, 687ft (209m), Completed
7. 277 Park Avenue, 687ft (209m), Completed
8. 1585 Broadway, 685ft (209m), Completed
9. Random House Tower, 684ft (208m), Completed
10. Four Seasons Hotel, 682ft (208m), Completed
11. Citypoint Tower 1 (Downtown Brooklyn), 680ft (207,3m), Approved
12. McGraw-Hill Building, 674ft (205m), Completed
13. Lincoln Building, 673ft (205m), Completed
14. Citicorp Building, 673ft (205m), Completed
15. Barclay Tower, 673ft (205m), Completed
16. Paramount Plaza, 670ft (204m), Completed
17. 440 West 42nd Street, 669ft (204m), Completed
18. Trump Tower, 664ft (202m), Completed
19. 514 11th Avenue, 656ft+ (200m+), Proposed
20. Public New York (855 6th Avenue), 656ft+ (200m+), Proposed
21. 111 Washington Street, 656ft+ (200m+), Proposed
22. 125 Greenwich Street (22 Thames Street), 637ft (194m), Proposed (likely to exceed 200m+)
23.
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60. ...

In total: 60 buildings


500 footers:

130 buildings+

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Old Posted Aug 2, 2012, 12:59 PM
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Right now NYC has about 250 buildings exceeding 500 feet!
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I did a little more work on an earlier montage I did, and came up with an NYC 2030 version that includes a more built out Hudson Yards and some new ~1,500 to 1,700 foot towers near Grand Central. I'm sure I'm missing many proposals, and even more that wouldn't even be visible from this angle.

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Old Posted Aug 4, 2012, 12:07 PM
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^ Very nice work there sbarn. I like The Shard near GCT.

The NY skyline is going to be overwhelming in a couple of years.
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If all these proposals and a few extras are built up to their full potential, the 2020s will be the first time the ESB loses its complete dominance over Midtown after a 90 year reign as NYC's king in that area. The Big Apple is gonna get bigger!
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Old Posted Aug 5, 2012, 2:35 AM
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I did a little more work on an earlier montage I did, and came up with an NYC 2030 version that includes a more built out Hudson Yards and some new ~1,500 to 1,700 foot towers near Grand Central. I'm sure I'm missing many proposals, and even more that wouldn't even be visible from this angle.

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Wow amazing just imagine what it could be if even more proposals come up and i wouldnt be suprosed with the latest building boom
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Right now NYC has about 250 buildings exceeding 500 feet!
Above you posted 432 park avenue height not confirmed has it been confirmed the height of 432 park?
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I did a little more work on an earlier montage I did, and came up with an NYC 2030 version that includes a more built out Hudson Yards and some new ~1,500 to 1,700 foot towers near Grand Central. I'm sure I'm missing many proposals, and even more that wouldn't even be visible from this angle.

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I love this image! This is Gotham City
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Old Posted Aug 6, 2012, 10:20 AM
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Above you posted 432 park avenue height not confirmed has it been confirmed the height of 432 park?
Yeah well, we only have the DOB filings so far. And they list a height of 1398'. But DOB papers aren't final, so we have to wait for an official release from the developer to announce the final height.
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Yeah well, we only have the DOB filings so far. And they list a height of 1398'. But DOB papers aren't final, so we have to wait for an official release from the developer to announce the final height.
oh thanks i was confused about that, do you have any idea when that might be?
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A 2000 footer needs to be surrounded by huge towers to look good. Midtown and Lower Manhattan are ideal places for that. Also, don't forget that after all those 400m+ and 300m+ projects are finished in a couple of years (One57, 1 and 4WTC are going to be completed soon), NY will have a taller skyline than Chicago (if you go by 200m+ skyscrapers, NY dwarfs every city in the world except maybe for Hong Kong).
With the completed new WTC alone, NYC will have a taller skyline than Chicago unless it sees a boom in the future. In fact, I think when the former WTC existed, NYC had the world's tallest skyline.
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A 2000 footer needs to be surrounded by huge towers to look good. Midtown and Lower Manhattan are ideal places for that. Also, don't forget that after all those 400m+ and 300m+ projects are finished in a couple of years (One57, 1 and 4WTC are going to be completed soon), NY will have a taller skyline than Chicago (if you go by 200m+ skyscrapers, NY dwarfs every city in the world except maybe for Hong Kong).
im just syaing personally i dont think it would look right, maybe ill change my mind because you never know what can happen at the grand central terminal site if we get something 1700 feet or so, and girasole may be 1500 feet, so idk but i love nyc, but i like chicago too and wish it would get a 2000 footer
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im just syaing personally i dont think it would look right, maybe ill change my mind because you never know what can happen at the grand central terminal site if we get something 1700 feet or so, and girasole may be 1500 feet, so idk but i love nyc, but i like chicago too and wish it would get a 2000 footer
I just watch a "Bill It Bigger" on the "Science" network. They're building lower, not upper @ GCS (Terminal)...
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With the completed new WTC alone, NYC will have a taller skyline than Chicago unless it sees a boom in the future. In fact, I think when the former WTC existed, NYC had the world's tallest skyline.
I would probably disagree with that. Of the top 6 tallest buildings in the country (completed), 4 of them are from Chicago, including the top 2.

When New York completes WTC1 AND 432 Park, then it will probably be neck and neck for height. I would like to see either city get a 2k footer though.

With the skylines the way they are today, I would say a 2k footer would probably look better in Chicago because of how their skyline is laid out. Once WTC1 and 432 park (and maybe one more 1250+ footer) are done however, i'd say a 2k footer would look best towards the edge of Midtown in NYC.

It would look best if they put one towards the edge closest to the WTC complex. Now if NYC completes all four WTC buildings AND gets a 2k footer (along with the rest of the upcoming supertalls), then you all would have a very justifiable argument for best skyline in the world. That would be sweet!
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