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SteelTown · #41 Posted: **Jan 16, 2013, 4:04 PM**

Toronto failed to build the Canadian Music Hall of Fame again.

pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce · #42 Posted: **Jan 17, 2013, 12:33 AM**

Yeah, that would be a good fit for a Hard Rock Cafe or whatever.

Much like the casino (and the the CFL HOF for that matter) I'm not sure it would act as much of a magnet...
'Hey mummy, can we go to Hamilton to see the April Wine display at the hall of fame??'

SteelTown · #43 Posted: **Jan 17, 2013, 1:15 AM**

Hard Rock to be partner in Mercanti casino

http://www.thespec.com/news/local/ar...ercanti-casino

The company behind the popular Hard Rock Cafe is partnering with the Mercanti family to develop a casino in Hamilton’s downtown.

The Hamilton Spectator has learned Orlando-based Hard Rock International will be part of the well-known family’s project to be formally unveiled Feb. 6 to city councillors.

While well-known for its rock and roll café establishments, the company is also in the hotel and casino business. It announced Jan. 13 a Hard Rock Hotel and Casino redevelopment project on the site of the Eastern States Exposition in West Springfield, Mass.

It operates casinos in Biloxi, Mississippi; Hollywood, Florida; Las Vegas, Nevada; Macau, China; Tamp, Florida; Punta Cana, Dominican Republic; and Singapore.

P.J. Mercanti, the face of the casino project, could not be reached for comment Wednesday night. A spokesperson for Hard Rock could also not be reached.

Patriarch Peter Mercanti declined comment when approached by a Spectator reporter at a casino town hall meeting in Waterdown Wednesday night.

The Mercanti family operates the Carmen’s Banquet Centre and hotel on the east Mountain. They are set to takeover operation of the Hamilton Convention Centre this spring.

YourHamiltonBiz.com reported Wednesday the project calls for a 700,000-square-foot, $250 million complex. It said the casino would have up to 1,200 slot machines and table games and could generate up to $200 million in revenue each year.

The website also said it would include a 325 hotel rooms and 125 condominium units.

There is also mention of the facility housing the Canadian Music Hall of Fame and the CFL Hall of Fame.

P.J. Mercanit told councillors this week the presentation to councillors is “definitely going to make as big a splash as possible” and that “the majority of Hamiltonians will also be delighted, as well.”

The delegation request stated the facility could include a hotel, gaming, a restaurant, night life, live shows, luxury retail and a museum.

“I would not be supportive of a stand-alone gaming facility,” Mercanti said. “The conversation will change from casino to entertainment destination. And that’s an important message that we plan to communicate. This is about creating an entertainment zone.”

pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce · #44 Posted: **Jan 19, 2013, 2:18 AM**

I don't want a casino but...

If this project is, as has been suggested in this article, a higher-end type deal (Hard Rock, hotel, museums, etc.) then perhaps it won't have quite as deleterious an effect on the downtown as I'd thought. Is that possible or am I delusional? Part of my concern is having a shite little casino plopped down a la Thunder Bay, Sault Ste. Marie, or the like. If it's the real deal, with tables and proper entertainment, then it could be a draw.

I'm still not convinced, though. Oh yeah, and I hate the Hard Rock - so bloody phoney.

durandy · #45 Posted: **Jan 19, 2013, 3:30 AM**

a hard rock casino run by the Mercantis? I can't think of anything worse. Remember when they wanted to create the "W" Best Western hotel? These are grandstanding caterers whose pride and joy is bringing Al Pacino to Hamilton. I have no doubt the love Council has for them is because they all got to meet Stallone on his last trip. You stay classy, Hamilton.

movingtohamilton · #46 Posted: **Jan 19, 2013, 4:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by durandy

a hard rock casino run by the Mercantis? I can't think of anything worse. Remember when they wanted to create the "W" Best Western hotel? These are grandstanding caterers whose pride and joy is bringing Al Pacino to Hamilton. I have no doubt the love Council has for them is because they all got to meet Stallone on his last trip. You stay classy, Hamilton.

Stallone, Hard Rock Cafe, Pacino, Bella Towers....Hamilton has the 70's/80's vibe. And of course Toby's Good Eats, a primo '80's restaurant and one of two left in the entire world.

Maybe the wayback machine needs to go even further back. We could get the new casino to be run by mobsters, like Vegas used to be.

bluevue · #47 Posted: **Jan 19, 2013, 11:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by durandy

a hard rock casino run by the Mercantis? I can't think of anything worse. Remember when they wanted to create the "W" Best Western hotel? These are grandstanding caterers whose pride and joy is bringing Al Pacino to Hamilton. I have no doubt the love Council has for them is because they all got to meet Stallone on his last trip. You stay classy, Hamilton.

You do know they built the W Hotel right....its actually a great spot. Best Hotel in the city.

durandy · #48 Posted: **Jan 21, 2013, 3:20 PM**

I didn't know they kept the 'W' branding. God it's tacky. Everything about the Mercantis is like an effort to recreate a bad reality tv show. Keeping up with the Mercantis - cocktail hour at 6.

oldcoote · #49 Posted: **Jan 21, 2013, 3:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by bluevue

You do know they built the W Hotel right....its actually a great spot. Best Hotel in the city.

That doesn't say much.

MeIsThomas · #50 Posted: **Jan 21, 2013, 4:31 PM**

The Mercanti's Best Western hotel is called The C Hotel, not The W Hotel. Maybe everyone got it mixed up with the W Lofts downtown? lol - C Hotel Website

markbarbera · #51 Posted: **Jan 21, 2013, 4:33 PM**

As MeIsThomas pointed out in his post, the hotel run by the Mercanti's up on the mountain is branded as the C Hotel.

W Hotel is a chain of boutique hotels under the Starwood banner. There isn't a W Hotel in Hamilton.

bluevue · #52 Posted: **Jan 21, 2013, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by markbarbera

As MeIsThomas pointed out in his post, the hotel run by the Mercanti's up on the mountain is branded as the C Hotel.

W Hotel is a chain of boutique hotels under the Starwood banner. There isn't a W Hotel in Hamilton.

Yes. Thanks for that clarification. My oversight. It is a nice hotel, and nicest in the city, which indeed isn't saying much, but they have upped the ante in a city that has needed it badly for a long time..as well as putting it in a badly needed location.

fizzle · #53 Posted: **Jan 21, 2013, 6:31 PM**

That is the most bush league PowerPoint presentation I've ever seen. That's actually what was presented?

Someone else put it best- these guys are delusional and looking for handouts to establish themselves as something more than the caterers they are. Proceed with caution Hamilton.

MeIsThomas · #54 Posted: **Mar 12, 2013, 7:23 PM**

I edited the renderings to make them larger so more details can be seen:

Condo Tower with Infinity Pool:

Retail Shop and Lobby Area:

Source

pEte fiSt iN Ur fAce · #55 Posted: **Mar 13, 2013, 12:36 AM**

Michael, Fredo and Sonny would be proud. Oh yeah, and let's not forget Tom and Connie. The whole damn familia.