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Old Posted Aug 15, 2008, 12:11 AM
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Now it's time for me to sit back and watch the Ti Cats.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2008, 1:08 AM
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I don't have cable.

I hope Rogers loses a TON on this stupid idea.
I'll become a Packers fan or a Patriots fan if the Bills ever move to Toronto. Bunch of prissys.
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^^ That would make a lot more sense that 20,000! hahaha
I wonder if they'll ever reveal the #s?
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2008, 3:46 AM
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another reason the NFL won't ever fly in TO.
They're all too buttoned down. Sitting politely in their seats bored stiff.

http://www.thestar.com/Sports/article/478999

The roof will be closed anytime it's not sunny and 20.5 degrees. Heaven forbid they play football outside like it's supposed to be.
I'm convinced people in TO would die on the spot if they ever had to spend a winter in Green Bay, or heck, even Buffalo.
Sissies.
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Old Posted Aug 15, 2008, 12:24 PM
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A whole new BALL GAME

NFL stakes claim in Canada with pricey spectacle in Toronto while Cats battle Bombers out West

Steve Milton
The Hamilton Spectator
TORONTO (Aug 15, 2008)

The veteran scalper, seeing a familiar face among all the non-buyers, started to moan.

"It's a disaster, man, a total disaster. The prices are waaay too high. I'm gettin' half face value."

Last night's first instalment in the five-year, eight-game Bills Toronto Series was certainly not a wise investment for ticket speculators.

But this pre-season National Football League game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and your -- according to the stadium announcer -- Buffalo Bills did indicate there is indeed a healthy appetite for the NFL in Toronto.

Appetite, yes. Starvation, however, no.

While the audience generally backed the Bills whenever they made a big play, the loudest cheers of the evening were for the beginning and end of O Canada.

Draw your own conclusion there. And there was a clear restlessness during the unending between-play breaks, which are about twice as long as in the Canadian Football League.

There were a couple of thousand empty seats, and the Spectator and other news outlets found in a straw poll half the respondents did not pay full price, nor any price at all, for their tickets.

Those who did fork out what was asked were left wondering why.

"Well there was pressure to buy our corporate box," said an executive with a major Canadian corporation, which also has a box at Bills games in Buffalo. "They were trying to create a false market. We were told early on that they only had boxes from the 20-yard line to the goal line and when we got here, our box was on the 50, and there were plenty of empty ones.

"We just wanted to make sure we didn't get left out. But if Ralph Wilson passes away, none of this will make any difference anyway."

In one sense, last night's game was really about what will happen when Bills owner Wilson, 89, dies.

The Rogers-Tannenbaum consortium that bought the Bills Series for Rogers Centre, is hoping they can buy the team, which will be sold at auction upon Wilson's death, and move it to Toronto.

Buffalo interests, including everyone who works for the team now, hope that by selling Toronto a game or two per year, and expanding their reach into the GTA market, they will not only be able to keep the team in their fading city, but also establish Toronto as their area, protecting it from another NFL team moving in.

That's why Bills season-ticket holders Greg and Tracy Tranter drove all the way up from their home in Shrewsbury, Mass.

"We think this is great," said Greg Tranter, originally from Corning N.Y. "Buffalo is not going to lose this team. This game is going to help keep them there. Playing maybe two games here and six a year in Buffalo is about right."

The Tranters pay $104 Cdn per game for their two well-placed seats in Buffalo. The same seats last night cost them $330.

For that kind of money, you could purchase one season ticket, with roughly the same sightlines, in the stadium where the Hamilton Tiger-Cats played last night.

While the Ticats performed in front of fewer than 30,000 in Winnipeg, the other team dressed in black and gold, the Steelers, drew about 20,000 more, at more than quadruple the prices.

And that speaks to perception. There are legions of Torontonians who feel Toronto must have the NFL to be a world-class city, and must pay the price.

L.A., without an NFL team, suffers from no such self-doubts and if the NFL has made Jacksonville, Green Bay, Indianapolis and, well, Buffalo "world class" perhaps the phrase needs redefining.

Still, you could sense that people in attendance last night want the NFL here, even if the longterm cost is the death of the CFL, which would certainly ensue.

Everyone was trying to pretend those were real tailgate parties, despite the absence of a truck anywhere in sight, and the presence of heavy business sponsorship for what, in Buffalo and most NFL cities, is really a groundswell phenomenon. Tailgating - especially without vehicles - is a non-Canadian concept, and despite the bands, the noise and the booze, the general mood was, "How are we supposed to do this?"

In the parking-lot-turned-party-room outside Rogers Centre, Bills season ticket-holder Craig Meraw, of Mississauga, said: "There's not a football being tossed around here. It's good, but down there it's fun. This is corporate here. Down there it's the diehard fan."

It was much more raucous and party-like once the game started because a) it was a very good one for an exhibiton game; b) 48,434 people in any setting make a lot of noise, c) the home team was winning and d) the beers were kicking in.

And that's the dirty little secret of American football. Under all that hype, all that money, and all those stupendous athletes, the NFL has derived a large amount of its success from accomodating betting and legitimizing binge drinking on Sundays.

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They don't know why they were suckered into this? We all know the NFL game itself is terrible, and that the only reason the NFL is big is b/c (and ONLY b/c) of Hype! Hmmmm I wonder why you went to the game and left dissapointed?
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2008, 3:34 AM
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the Ticats suck.
I'm sick of going to their games.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2008, 4:50 AM
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^^ Coach Taffe sucks! That missed-op (1.5") 3rd down-conversion which ended up turning into an Argos touchdown was the turning point, imo.

Great game regardless! Had tons of fun, and I was sitting at the edge of my seat.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2008, 12:07 PM
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was a fun game, but yea he sucks.
He sucked last year, he sucks now and he'll always suck. Fire the bum!!
That call at the end stunk as well.
And how can he not know how many challenges he's allowed?? Get rid of the guy.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2008, 12:13 PM
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speaking of the challenges; how pathetic is it when the crowd has to scream at the head coach to toss the bean-bag!?

But re last night, Bob Young sure knows how to distract ppl from a crappy team: parachuters, fighter jets, wacky inflatable flailing arm tube guys...
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The coach will be gone once the season is over. Danny Mac is the coach in training with Lancaster stamp of approval.
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The coach had better be gone by next week.
I'm not going again until he's gone.
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Old Posted Sep 2, 2008, 1:38 PM
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With Lancaster out with cancer who can come in and be the coach the next day? It's kinda too late now. Unless the ticat admins have a lot of confidence in Danny.
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two letters - BO.

That's right... O'Billivich.
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I'm not sure if I buy into Danny Mac as the coaching saviour. I'd rather see him as the offensive coordinator first. Although he probably would be better than Taaffe.

I can't believe the number of games we've lost that stem from the inability to convert on third and one. With a running team, those situations are going to come up over and over, and you need to make them otherwise lights out.

Btw, did anyone see the Vandershank sign in the East endzone at the beginning of the game? I looked over later and it was gone, and I assume the Cats stadium staff confisticated it.
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you stole my thunder...I'm sick of Bob Young and his commie-like approach to trying to 'manage' the atmosphere in the stadium.
The 'Vandershank' sign was awesome...it was taken down before the game even started.
Also, they have about a dozen security people stand in front of the front row in the endzone so the fans can't lean over and bang on the wall and yell when the Argo's are coming out from underneath.
Get lost Bob! It's friggin football...just because some loser on the Argos couldn't take the razzing a couple years back and tossed his helmet into the crowd is no reason to start killing the atmosphere that makes Ivor Wynne the best football stadium in the country.
He already yapped about his dislike of the 'Argos Suck' chant.
Imagine trying to tell Red Sox fans that they can't chant 'Yankees Suck' anymore.
They'd run you out of town.
And we should do the same...I want my old Ivor Wynne back, not some sissy, TO style atmosphere.
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I think what we're seeing is the increased professionalization of the way the team is run on the non-football end (although there doesn't seem to be much of it on the football end). So what we're seeing is things becoming a bit more like the NFL and unfortunately overzealous stadium staff overreact to a great sign. Which I think might have been effective, considering the Turf Monster got Vanderjagt in the first half.

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you stole my thunder...I'm sick of Bob Young and his commie-like approach to trying to 'manage' the atmosphere in the stadium.
The 'Vandershank' sign was awesome...it was taken down before the game even started.
Also, they have about a dozen security people stand in front of the front row in the endzone so the fans can't lean over and bang on the wall and yell when the Argo's are coming out from underneath.
Get lost Bob! It's friggin football...just because some loser on the Argos couldn't take the razzing a couple years back and tossed his helmet into the crowd is no reason to start killing the atmosphere that makes Ivor Wynne the best football stadium in the country.
He already yapped about his dislike of the 'Argos Suck' chant.
Imagine trying to tell Red Sox fans that they can't chant 'Yankees Suck' anymore.
They'd run you out of town.
And we should do the same...I want my old Ivor Wynne back, not some sissy, TO style atmosphere.
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^^ That was so funny!

I agree re: security. There is a police officer infront of like every section. I understand that ppl really shouldn't bang on the walls (the Stadium has been declared unfit for certain events), but no need to make it so police-y.

I still chant 'Argos Suck', ps. Nothing will ever change that.

speaking of security, did you guys see the Argo (I 4get who) get sprayed in the face with a cup of beer? It was so funny but TSN cut it out of the replay.
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how about the guy who ran onto the field during play? He was classic.
He points at the security guards as if to taunt them and say "come and get me", and then promptly falls flat on his face. haha.
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hey Stubler...it's a real shame that every stadium in the league isn't as boring and crappy as yours.
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The Toronto Argonauts came away with a win over the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the Labour Day Classic but head coach Rich Stubler wasn't happy with the lack of security for his players at Ivor Wynne Stadium.

According to reports in Toronto, Stubler would like to see the Tiger-Cats fined and one unruly fan charged after running back Dominique Dorsey was allegedly struck by what appeared to be a balloon filled with beer.

"Hamilton should be fined for that," Stubler told the National Post on Tuesday. "You've got to have better crowd control. I'm going to be real honest with you -- that's not good."

Stubler expressed his concerns to the league but officials concluded in a statement that proper measures "were taken by Hamilton's security following the incident."

According to the Toronto Sun, police escorted the fan out of the stadium and the Tiger-Cats have banned him.

"We take a lot of abuse there," Stubler told the newspaper. "I mean, there's a lot of name-calling, there's a lot of stuff. But you've got to draw a line somewhere in the sand, and when you draw a line, you can't throw stuff at players on the field."

The Tiger-Cats have promised to increase security at Ivor Wynne for future games.

"I would be surprised if we don't spend the most in the league on security," Ticats president Scott Mitchell said. "We actually not only have security that's paid for by the city as part of the facility, we augment that by hiring our own security staff at our own cost. It's been incredibly successful in deterring incidents in the stadium."

The two teams do not meet again in the regular season.
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