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Great Canadian City Beginnings Thread

Got this idea from a post on the HBC thread.

Canada has a rich history and every city has a unique story of how it was founded. A few of these towns managed to go through centuries of growth while still keeping its history and old world charm alive while others had humble beginnings and grew into major urban centres of important financial and political status.

Edmonton (as seen of HBC thread)

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^^ Yup. What is now Downtown Edmonton, was originally a parcel of land owned by the Hudson's Bay Company, with Fort Edmonton around where the Legislature is today. When the Town of Edmonton was originally settled, in 1892, it was on the land directly east of the HBC territory, whose dividing line is now 97 Street. The Town of Edmonton grew first in the areas now known as the Quarters and McCauley. Eventually, the Town bought the land to the west and downtown gradually shifted westwards.

One interesting tidbit of history is that before most of Edmonton's roads changed to a numbered system in 1914, the original townsite, east of 101st St (then First Street) had streets running west-east and avenues running north-south, while the newer settlement west of 97 Street used the current city-wide system of having streets run north-south and avenues west-east. So you'd be heading west down Elizabeth St and then all of a sudden it'd turn into Athabasca Ave. Also, because of this dual system, and the fact that streets were numbered and avenues named, there were two first streets, second streets, etc. although they never intersected.

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Ottawa

The history of Ottawa actually starts in Hull, with the founding of Wrighstville by the American Philemon Wright in 1800. It was originally intended to become an agricultural town, but was soon transformed into a centre of the timber trade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull,_Quebec

Fast-forward to 1826, when the Royal British Engineer, Lieutenant Colonel John By, founded Bytown as a labour camp and staging area for the construction of the Rideau Canal (built for military purposes as a bypass to the stretch of the St-Lawrence River between MTL and Kingston).


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The canal was completed in 1832. John By was called back to England to face the tribunals for cost overruns.

Over the next few decades, Wrightsville and Ottawa grew into one of the most important lumber centres in North America.

In 1855, after reaching a population of 10,000 people, Bytown was renamed Ottawa.


In 1857, Queen Victoria picked Ottawa as the new Capital of the Province of Canada. They soon started construction of Parliament and the first session was held in 1861 and Ottawa was named the undisputed, permanent capital as part of Confederation on July 1st 1867.


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^ A lot of people in Canada are under the impression that Ottawa would be a tiny little village if it wasn't made the capital. That's wrong. Ottawa was already a significant city long before it become the capital.

If the capital remained in Kingston, then Ottawa's population today would likely be around that of Kingston (150,000), while Kingston would likely be a city of 1.5-2.0 million or so, as Kingston's geographic location is more ideal than Ottawa's (seaport access, equidistant between TO & MTL, etc.), meaning that capital-status would have ultimately provided an even bigger boost than Ottawa's capital-status did.

If neither city was capital, and the capital was in, say, Toronto or Montreal, then Kingston and Ottawa would likely both be around 300k today, and be competing for the role of Eastern Ontario's main centre.
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Well, a few hundred years ago, they wanted some nails to be shipped to build a new town.

"Just send it to the Trading post that is on the northern bay of Lake Nipissing."

That is now North Bay.(Check the lake out, there is no "north bay")
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Since this is now its own thread, I can add a bit more to this:

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^^ Yup. What is now Downtown Edmonton, was originally a parcel of land owned by the Hudson's Bay Company, with Fort Edmonton around where the Legislature is today. When the Town of Edmonton was originally settled, in 1892, it was on the land directly east of the HBC territory, whose dividing line is now 97 Street. The Town of Edmonton grew first in the areas now known as the Quarters and McCauley. Eventually, the Town bought the land to the west and downtown gradually shifted westwards.

One interesting tidbit of history is that before most of Edmonton's roads changed to a numbered system in 1914, the original townsite, east of 101st St (then First Street) had streets running west-east and avenues running north-south, while the newer settlement west of 97 Street used the current city-wide system of having streets run north-south and avenues west-east. So you'd be heading west down Elizabeth St and then all of a sudden it'd turn into Athabasca Ave. Also, because of this dual system, and the fact that streets were numbered and avenues named, there were two first streets, second streets, etc. although they never intersected.

https://archivesphotos.edmonton.ca/P...Mjg3NDg=&rCFU=

So Edmonton's "beginning" was as Fort Edmonton, which was founded in 1795 by the Hudson's Bay Company, though the Edmonton area was first surveyed by Europeans as far back as the 1750s when Anthony Henday was in the area. The fort was named after a town outside of London, which is now apart of Greater London. Edmonton, UK was the hometown of an HBC deputy at the time.


Romanticized rendition of Fort Edmonton in the mid-19th century by Paul Kane. Source.

Originally, the fort was near present day Fort Saskatchewan, which is now a bedroom community next to Alberta's Industrial Heartland. Due to conflict with local Aboriginals, the original fort was abandoned in 1801, and moved downriver to around where Rossdale now is. But then again, in 1810, the fort was moved to near where Smoky Lake now sits. They then moved back to the now-Rossdale lands in 1814. They certainly had issues making up their minds, but this move was the final one. There was a flood in the 1820s which prompted a slight move westwards, atop the hill that the Alberta Legislature now sits on. The buildings that made up Fort Edmonton were completely demolished by World War I. Anyways, from the 1820s until the 1890s, Fort Edmonton flourished as an important trading post for the fur trade industry.


Fort Edmonton from Southside, 1870s. Source.


Fort Edmonton, 1884. Source.


Fort Edmonton Interior, 1883. Source.

By 1892, the Town of Edmonton was established immediately east of the land owned by the Hudson's Bay Company in what is now the Quarters neighbourhood. The town was built over parcels of farmland, all of which had that narrow plot shape common around the Red and Assiniboine Rivers in Manitoba as well as in Quebec. Much different from the more square-shaped plots of farmland more common in Alberta today.

In 1891, the C&E Railway arrived in Strathcona, then an independent town on the south bank of the North Saskatchewan. This began a population explosion for both Edmonton and Strathcona which culminated in the 1905-1914 boom, during which Edmonton grew from around 9,000 to 74,000 people. The boom was fueled mostly by real estate speculation and a large influx of migrants from Eastern Canada and Europe. Throughout the 1900s, the Hudson's Bay Company subdivided and sold their territory, which includes much of what is now Downtown Edmonton, to the Town and later City of Edmonton (after 1904).


Ferry to Strathcona across the North Saskatchewan River, 1900. Source.

In 1905, Edmonton was also crowned the capital of the new Province of Alberta. That same year, more direct rail service to Edmonton arrived. In 1908, the University of Alberta was established in "the city to the south", but not Calgary, Strathcona was the choice as the province didn't want to give Edmonton both the capital and the province's first university, similar to Saskatchewan. But in 1912, Edmonton amalgamated with Strathcona rendering that train of thought useless. That same year, the High Level Bridge was completed, connecting Edmonton and Strathcona by car, rail (passenger and freight), streetcar, and of course, two legs. A year later, the Alberta Legislature was completed, prior to this the McKay Avenue School served as a place to hold the Legislative Assembly.


First graduating class at the UofA, the Class of 1908. Source.


Alberta Legislature Building with last buildings of Fort Edmonton, 1915. Source.

With World War I came an end to the aforementioned population boom and the population bottomed to around 53,000 or closer to 69,000 with the surrounding towns such as Calder and Beverly in 1919. In 1915, the Hotel MacDonald was completed by the Grand Trunk Railway. The '20s weren't roaring in Edmonton, but there was moderate growth, mostly regaining the population lost during WWI. The Town of Beverly was where a lot of coal mines were located and within city limits, the Alberta Avenue neighbourhood was popular with coal mine workers families. In 1929, the Edmonton Municipal Airport (later Edmonton City Centre Airport) was built on Blatchford Fields, which was Canada's first licensed airfield and was used as a way to get mail and medicine to communities in Northern Canada. The airport would also act as a catalyst making Edmonton a major military centre during WWII.


Jasper Ave with Hotel MacDonald, 1920. Source.


Jasper Ave bustle, 1931. Source.


Blatchford Field, 1940s. Source.

After WWII, in 1947, Alberta's first major oil discovery, Leduc No. 1, was discovered just south of the city fueling a population boom which would turn Edmonton and Alberta into the places we know them as today.


Leduc Oil No. 1, 1947. Source.

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It's generally accepted that, for the first time since the Vikings temporarily settled Newfoundland almost five centuries previous, Newfoundland was re-discovered by Europeans when Giovanni Caboto (John Cabot) set foot on the Rock on the Feast of St. John the Baptist in 1497.

Is it true? Who knows. There's a reason we're nicknamed the City of Legends. The Portuguese have long claimed that their sailors were visiting Newfoundland as early as the 1470s. The English city of Bristol, too, claims its men were fishing on the Grand Banks long before the 1490s.

The earliest fact we know with absolute certainty about St. John's is that it was the Basque, and not Giovanni Caboto, who gave the city its name. The earliest maps that identify St. John's using that name (São João) are all Basque or Portuguese. It was named after a city of the same name in the Basque country that has an identically-shaped harbour.

St. John's Harbour quickly became a busy seasonal fishing station. Basque, Breton, Norman, Portuguese, French, and other fishermen/whalers used the fantastically-sheltered harbour, the closest fine harbour to Europe, to process their catch. Occasionally, they over-wintered there - by accident.

On August 3, 1527, the first letter from North America to Europe was sent from St. John's to King Henry, detailing the number and national origin of the ships in the harbour. By 1546, Water Street - the oldest street in North America - had been developed and appeared on maps.

However, St. John's was still a seasonal settlement - and its seasonal residents were almost entirely continental Europeans. That all changed on August 5, 1583. Sir Humphrey Gilbert claimed St. John's and the surrounding area for Queen Elizabeth, making this Britain's first colony and the beginning of the British Empire. He famously said, "I set my heart on this country so grand."

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By the early 1600s, Newfoundland had several thriving, year-round settlements. Bristol's Hope (Harbour Grace), Avalon (Ferryland), and St. John's were the main ones. The population was small and almost entirely English Anglican. However, it was for a while one of the largest and most important settlements in the Americas. For example, the Mayflower stopped by (to the settlement of Renews) on its way to begin the settlement of America for supplies.

By 1627, St. John's was described by the British as "the principal prime and chief lot in the whole country". When the first census was taken in 1675, it was the largest community - though Harbour Grace was close behind (and was favoured to be the capital for generations).

Beginning in 1680, the Irish began to visit St. John's. The English didn't like it much - the Penal Laws prohibiting Roman Catholic worship were stricter in Newfoundland than anywhere else. In fact, when they were repealed in the 1820s, Newfoundland - in one of its first acts of independence - refused to implement the changes. Roman Catholics on the island were second-class citizens (forbidden to own property, or even receive gifts from Anglicans) until well into the 1830s.

The Irish settlement of Newfoundland remains one of the most unique population movements in world history. Few if any examples of a people moving from so specific a location (the city of Waterford and its surrounding countryside) to so specific a location (St. John's and the Irish Shore of the Avalon Peninsula) over such a long period of time (well into the 1800s) exist.

St. John's really began to grow into something we'd recognize today as a city in the late 1600s.

The Dutch conquered St. John's in 1665 and were quickly driven off. Immediately, calls for better defenses of the city were sent to London. The Dutch tried again in 1673, but this time were successfully defeated without taking the city. What would later become Fort William (near where the Hotel Newfoundland was built) was started at that time.

In 1696, however, it failed. The French captured and destroyed St. John's. When reinforcements from Britain arrived a year later, they found nothing but rubble. Every trace of the city of its people was gone.

The city was quickly rebuilt, but the French attacked the city again in 1705 - destroying it - and fully occupied it in 1708. Again, they quickly abandoned the ruins and established new settlements in the surrounding area. The British returned, and in 1713 the French were forced to cede most of their settlements surrounding St. John's, the inhabitants forcibly deported to what is now Cape Breton Island.

From 1713 until the 1760s, the city boomed and became increasingly important as a commercial, trade, and settlement centre. That, of course, caught the French attention again and for the final time they conquered the city in 1762. This time, they were so enamoured with its beauty that they refused an order to put it to the torch. It was a fatal mistake, as the final battle of the Seven Year's War in North America (the Battle of Signal Hill) saw the French surrender St. John's to the British for good.


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The massive Fort Townshend was built to complement Fort William and fortify the city. St. John's grew slowly and steadily, remaining one of the 10 largest communities in what is now Canada until the 1900s.


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It became a de-facto capital with Newfoundland's partial independence from Britain in 1832. With full independence on May 22, 1855 (our equivalent of July 1, 1867), it became a proper national capital. In 1907, Newfoundland was granted the title of Dominion (the same title used by Canada, New Zealand, etc.) and its leader, officially termed a Premier or Governor up until that point (but commonly referred to as Prime Minister), adopted the official title of Prime Minister.



Interestingly, St. John's was traditionally governed as a part of Newfoundland as a whole. There was absolutely no level of government between an individual and the national Parliament in Newfoundland. No municipalities, no counties, no provinces/states. (Labrador was officially termed a dependency of Newfoundland, but it did not have any separate form of government).

The city wasn't incorporated as a municipality until 1888 and, even then, it was heavily controlled by Parliament. The municipal council was comprised of equals with a Chairman appointed by the Prime Minister.

It wasn't until 1921 that St. John's achieved the type of municipal government we'd recognize today, with powers/responsibilities and the position of mayor.


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The greatest disaster in the city's history was the Great Fire of 1892.

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"When morning broke the thick clouds of smoke still ascended from the burning ruins, and it was hours before it had cleared sufficiently to admit a view of the track of the desolating scourge. A walk through the deserted streets demonstrated that the ruin was even more complete than seemed possible at first. Of the whole easterly section, scarcely a building remained. Of the costly and imposing structures and public buildings which were the pride and glory of the people, scarcely a vestige remained; and St. John's lay in the morning as a city despoiled of her beauty, her choicest ornaments, presenting a picture of utter desolation and woe."

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Often surprising for Canadians: Newfoundland was one of the only places in North America directly bombed by the Germans during WWII. They fired torpedos at St. John's and Bell Island, killing more than 60. And German agents set several fires in St. John's, including the deadly Knights of Columbus Fire - which killed almost 100 American men and their Newfoundland girls at a dance that was broadcast live over the radio. And German U-boats sunk numerous ships around Newfoundland, including passenger ferries, to heavy loss of life.

In the 1930s, riots ravaged Newfoundland - the worst that had been experienced since the 1860s. Parliament was sacked and the Prime Minister was literally chased through the streets until he sought refuge inside a private residence.

Independence was temporarily abolished and Commission of Government was re-instated. It was comprised of three Newfoundlanders, three Britons, and led by a Governor appointed by the British government. Following WWII, Britain and Canada agreed to trade Newfoundland in return for Canada forgiving much of Britain's war debt.

But there existed a more fitting option: Union with the United States. The American military had a base in every other town in Newfoundland. It was AT&T that built the province's communications system. Even those who passionately supported Confederation with Canada still say, "Canada was an unknown, foreign country to us up until then. We just wanted a way to make it. We'd been trying so long and nothing worked. But if America had been on the ballot, that would have been our first choice."

St. John's, especially, boomed under American influence. But even as far away as the west coast of the island, it was U.S.A and Newfoundland. For example, I have an Aunt who married an American serviceman and moved to New Mexico. There are many families on the island with these circumstances.

Canadian records from the time show they wanted the country for its hydroelectric potential, for control of its Atlantic coastline, and to prevent the Americans from taking it as had happened in Alaska.

In the late 1940s, a referendum was held. Newfoundlanders voted to regain their independence from the three options presented. A second referendum was held, marred by accusations of fraud, and Newfoundlanders voted 52% in favour of Confederation with Canada. The votes were counted by the British and quickly destroyed. The Terms of Union were drawn up by Ottawa and London with minimal influence from St. John's.

Many Canadian and British officials joined those in Newfoundland condemning the referendum as illegal as it was organized by Britain and not Newfoundland. They insisted Newfoundland should be given back its independence first, then decide what to do.

St. John's and the entire Avalon Peninsula (accounting for a majority of Newfoundland's population) voted overwhelmingly against Confederation. Black tarps were draped over Water Street's buildings, flags flown at half mast.

Meanwhile, in rural Newfoundland, the mood was ecstatic. Canada promised social services and support that St. John's couldn't be arsed to give to its outports. Baby bonuses, electricity, running water, schools, hospitals, and more went up as fast as they could be built outside the city. For the first years, Canada treaded lightly near St. John's.

The first CBC station in Newfoundland, for example, was set up 800+km away on the west coast of the island, in Corner Brook.

Confederation brought some changes to St. John's. Development - which had, until that point, been almost entirely limited to dense, urban rowhouse districts, took on a more suburban, North American feel. Cottage country in what is now the City of Mount Pearl became home to permanent residences. Suburban sprawl took off, and is still growing - accounting for almost 50% of the city's population.

Since then, things have mellowed. Passionate and sometimes violent Anglican-Catholic tensions remained a fixture of St. John's until the 1970s, but those too have faded from memory and daily experience.

Now we're a normal city with a long history, a strong identity, and a great sense of self. We're contented enough, and our economy and growth are now booming.
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St. John's and Newfoundland have a great history. Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
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^Good stuff. I've always been a little confused about the when's and who's of Newfoundland history.
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St. John's, especially, boomed under American influence. But even as far away as the west coast of the island, it was U.S.A and Newfoundland. For example, Christina Aguilera is half-Newfoundlander. Her mother is from Stephenville, her father is an American serviceman who was stationed there. Although she is a mainstream Latin artist, she has said in interviews that, musically, she is very connected to/proud of her Newfoundland heritage.

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The story is well told, except, ahem, for the bolded part. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. There appears to be no factual evidence to support this part, as much as we might wish that Christina is half Canadian.
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Don't believe everything you read in the magazines. As beautiful and culturally rich as Newfoundland is, I don't get the impression she's very connected to the place. If she were, it'd probably be a more well known fact and probably a place she'd visit frequently. Anyways, why do we need to attach merit to being connected to some American pop artist, anyways? She isn't adding or taking anything from Newfoundland, aside from a brief cliffnote stating she has family who lived in the area at one point.
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^ I should have clarified that. What you can find on the internet is a bunch of conflicting statements, which mostly lead to her mother being born in Pennsylvania, and of Irish German descent.
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Don't believe everything you read in the magazines. As beautiful and culturally rich as Newfoundland is, I don't get the impression she's very connected to the place. If she were, it'd probably be a more well known fact and probably a place she'd visit frequently. Anyways, why do we need to attach merit to being connected to some American pop artist, anyways? She isn't adding or taking anything from Newfoundland, aside from a brief cliffnote stating she has family who lived in the area at one point.
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^ I should have clarified that. What you can find on the internet is a bunch of conflicting statements, which mostly lead to her mother being born in Pennsylvania, and of Irish German descent.
Her first cousin in Jim Fidler who is a musician currently living in St. John's but originally from Pennsylvania. Her mother, also a Fidler, was originally from Pennsylvania but the family ended up in Newfoundland one way or another. The mother met up with this Aguliera guy who was a serviceman at Harmon and over the course of the years she ended up back in Pennsylvania where Christina grew up. A few of the family still live here though, the Fidler's are still around.
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^ Has it really changed Aguilera that much though? I don't get the minor obsession with Newfoundlanders trying to "claim" her. She's American, through and through. Do you guys really want your own Celine Dion, anyway?
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Her first cousin in Jim Fidler who is a musician currently living in St. John's but originally from Pennsylvania. Her mother, also a Fidler, was originally from Pennsylvania but the family ended up in Newfoundland one way or another. The mother met up with this Aguliera guy who was a serviceman at Harmon and over the course of the years she ended up back in Pennsylvania where Christina grew up. A few of the family still live here though, the Fidler's are still around.
The Ernest Harmon Airforce Base closed in 1966, when Aguilera's mother was just 6 years old. That's another reason the story that they met there doesn't make any sense.
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Oh wow, I had no idea. Sorry!

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Don't believe everything you read in the magazines. As beautiful and culturally rich as Newfoundland is, I don't get the impression she's very connected to the place. If she were, it'd probably be a more well known fact and probably a place she'd visit frequently. Anyways, why do we need to attach merit to being connected to some American pop artist, anyways? She isn't adding or taking anything from Newfoundland, aside from a brief cliffnote stating she has family who lived in the area at one point.
Yeah, you're right. I thought it was cool, full stop - I'm a tad tribal, as everyone knows. But I was trying to illustrate the connection in a way that people would know. It's no good to say... my Aunt Joan married an American and moved to New Mexico and hasn't been back since. No one knows her. But I will switch it to that.
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Oh wow, I had no idea. Sorry!



Yeah, you're right. I thought it was cool, full stop - I'm a tad tribal, as everyone knows. But I was trying to illustrate the connection in a way that people would know. It's no good to say... my Aunt Joan married an American and moved to New Mexico and hasn't been back since. No one knows her. But I will switch it to that.
Haha, fair enough.
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Wascana (Cree for "Pile of Bones") was rebranded by Queen Victoria as Regina in 1882.
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Original map of By Town, 1826 with the Byward market area east of the canal and what would eventually become the central business district west of the canal. Colonel John By created the original master plan with the street grid system and wider than usual avenues (such as Rideau) as part of the larger Rideau Canal project.


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