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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 6:45 PM
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Congrats on another successful Mardi Gras!

Regarding any new casino, I honestly think the best location for a new one is where the main post office is on Loyola Avenue, for the following reasons:

1. It's close to everything, without being a pedestrian unfriendly, superblock.
2. It would be on the streetcar line and next to the interstate.
3. It would mutually benefit the Superdome/Arena/Champions Square/ Hyatt complex. Parking could also be shared with the Dome/Champions Garage.
4. It would definitely help build up that vacant corner of the CBD, (certainly helping the Plaza Tower development).
5. There is plenty of open space.
6. There are no neighbors to bother.
7. It's additional buffer between the Fisher housing projects and the tourist areas.
8. Being directly next to the Union Passenger Terminal, it might encourage tourists from TX, MS, AR, TN, MO, AL, to take the train to NOLA because it would almost take them directly to this casino in a few stops for a few bucks.

The next best locations I can think of would be 1. the enormous Riverwalk Parking lot with the Whale painting on the side. 2. the old VA hospital site next to the Old Charity building.
Blitzen, I really like your idea. I'm skeptical that more casinos really are bad for New Orleans, we're not even in the top ten casino markets (we're #15 when ranked by gross revenue http://www.americangaming.org/files/...a-sos-2011.pdf ). Diversification of NOLA's economy should not be an argument against new casinos. I think even the casinos themselves would love New Orleans economy to be more diverse, that's more revenue for them. That being said, I think if approving more casinos were ever put on the ballot there's a strong chance the voters would approve more land casinos.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 8:30 PM
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I agree with everything said above.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 10:35 PM
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I share ardecila's concerns about casino's. I like the idea offered earlier of allowing existing hotels or historic building building non-obtrusive European style casinos. I would hate for New Orleans to be a nola version of Las Vegas or Atlantic City. These types of casinos encourage disney-fication, which I believe contradicts our current direction. Grant it we already have enough of that. It just seems at odds with the DDD's "Industries of the Mind" campaign, which attempts to use cultural authenticity as a raw resource for creating something new.

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7. It's additional buffer between the Fisher housing projects and the tourist areas.
I believe you meant the "Melpomene" (i.e. Guste Apartments). The Fisher was in Algiers, but has since been demolished and redeveloped. The Melpomene seems to be experiencing a slow (albeit a ridiculously slow!) redevelopment, and I don't think we should think about "buffers" if we're attempting to create a more mixed-income, walkable city. Also, in recent years, I haven't heard of crime from the Melpomene spilling over into the CBD/Arts District.
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Old Posted Feb 22, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Yeah, there shouldn't be any crime spillover ever since DOTD built the Great Wall of China to separate the two.

On a disappointing note, we've got some Tea Party types who think the Texaco Building, intended for senior housing, will quickly fill up with thugs and pushers. They've started an activism group.

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Fischer project and others were torn down because they were the perfect crime breeders. They also housed people who voted early and often and as they were told.
The amount of implied racism in this sentence is staggering.
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Texaco and Casinos:

Texaco:

There is no room for racial tinged comments like that on that facebook page, but I can understand their concerns.

Several news reports and the HANO website itself says the qualified elderly from the Iberville development will be moving in. I hope it will be more like the building on Lee Circle, which seems to be a respectable building and community and not like a Canal Street version of the Guste development though.

If the financing for this was just like 200 Canal St. or other mixed income developments I would have no hesitations.

New Orleans Casions:

I am all for the expansion of casions in the city, but I think the logic that suburban casinos is he right answer just weird. Most of the problems of having local casinos is when locals visit to often, so the idea of making them more a "drivable" destination inviting people to become more comfortable than they should. Casinos should be a treat, like right next to the FQ, Harrahs, or the riverfront.

Benson would have to be onboard for anything attached to the "Dome" area. I also don't think the NFL, NCAA and other Dome guests would like the gambling vibe too close to their product.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 4:19 AM
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Not sure if this has been posted yet... uptown/river corner of Magazine/Julia.

Stirling Properties is developer, Trapolin-Peer is architect, and the other day I saw a Landis Construction sign on the building. They're marketing it as retail/restaurant - on Julia Street it should fill up pretty fast once the work is done.

The mansard on the gallery is super-awkward, but the rest of the design is surprisingly nice.

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 4:22 AM
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Saenger Theatre

I was riding my bicycle up basin, and I noticed that the back of the Saenger Theatre was being deconstructed. I assume that this is a part of the expansion. I snapped a quick picture. Side note: I literally LOL at the Great Wall of China analogy!

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 4:30 AM
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Correct. They need more room backstage, so they're expanding the building into what used to be part of Iberville St.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 5:19 AM
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The mansard on the gallery is super-awkward, but the rest of the design is surprisingly nice.
Its faux-French Second Empire look is charming and long disappeared from the city. I think it'll look better in real life than it does in the drawing.

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Not sure if this has been posted yet... uptown/river corner of Magazine/Julia.

Stirling Properties is developer, Trapolin-Peer is architect, and the other day I saw a Landis Construction sign on the building. They're marketing it as retail/restaurant - on Julia Street it should fill up pretty fast once the work is done.

The mansard on the gallery is super-awkward, but the rest of the design is surprisingly nice.

It will look better than it does now:

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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 5:37 PM
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Looks like they're ripping a story off of it.
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Do you think the bigger reason for the lack of Magazine St. foot traffic on the one way section is the traffic patterns or the Magazine Discount Market and the new health clinic across the street?

They interrupt the flow of retail and restaurants and really discourage pedestrians from continuing to walk downtown.
Are you seriously complaining about the new health clinic? First of all, they rescued a gorgeous old building that was falling down. Second of all, its providing medical services that are badly needed by lower income residents, who still live in the neighborhood and will be there even after lower Magazine has gentrified. (There's the new ST. Thomas neighborhood right behind here afterall.) I'm sorry, but your comment is the epitome of heartless gentrification. Would another sushi restaurant really be better for the city than a health clinic?
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 7:07 PM
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Great. Hows my second favorite city doing? BTW if any more people from Brooklyn move to the Bywater here we might have we might have to make it your sixth borough! lol
I was in Brooklyn for a week and a half last year. I loved it there, better than Manhattan. And people in the Williamsburg area are really obsessed with New Orleans, I noticed. New Orleans food, drinks, shirts, Mardi Gras beads were all over the place. I actually think Brooklyn may become the second borough of New Orleans! Maybe we could make Algiers a borough too.

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tourism is good, don't get me wrong, but the people who would come for better casinos are already flooding MSY. this city needs to work to attract the other types of tourists: the business travel who doesn't check the price of the meal before ordering because the company is paying, the intercultural tourist who wants authenticity not just trite tourist traps, the luxury tourist who wants to be pampered.
I agree 100%. If New Orleans markets itself correctly (which it doesn't do) it would attract the drunken frat kids as well as hordes and hordes of upwardly mobile, educated tourists who usually go to New York, Paris, Rome, etc. etc. etc. And you know what, if more of our visitors (think conventioneers) saw less Bourbon Street and Harrah's, and more of our incredible cultural destinations, maybe more of them would want to relocate here! How come nobody ever asks why it took a epic hurricane disaster to introduce visitors to how truly incredible our city really is?? It's because our tourism monied interests have doubled down on selling swamp Cajun Mardi Gras CHEESE, and it truly repels a lot of people.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2012, 7:32 PM
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I think Jazz Fest, by being at the Fair Grounds, draws visitors to City Park and all the great restaurants, venues, and attractions of Mid-City.

There are also tons of tourists all the time who go up the St. Charles streetcar to Riverbend/Oak St, and up Magazine to Audubon. Large areas of the city are regularly traversed by visitors, not just the FQ/CBD. Hollygrove, Lakeview, and St. Roch aren't drawing too many tourists - nor should they.
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Hollygrove, Lakeview, and St. Roch aren't drawing too many tourists - nor should they.
One exception to that should be Pontchartrain Beach. Now that the water is regularly safe for swimming (http://www.saveourlake.org/weekly-report.php), with some minor beach improvements and rezoning, that area could be a tourist destination. There should be hotels, restaurants, resorts and spas in the land behind the levee. http://wikimapia.org/#lat=30.032393&...3&z=17&l=0&m=b There's plenty of space and no neighbors around (besides UNO's Technology Park). It could become the Jersey Boardwalk of the South.

What would make the whole thing work better, is if the water were blue and clear like off the coast of Florida. That's slowly happening, but it could be sped up. Since the moratorium on shell dredging in Lake Pontchartrain, the water has become slowly clearer because Rangia Clams (those little white shells in your pothole) are regrowing in the bottom of the lake. Before shell dredging mined them away, there were 6 feet thick of these shells lake bottom which filtered the water, gave plants something to anchor onto, and kept the bottom solid so waves didn't push the muck around. Closing MRGO off has helped with the clams recovery, but more intense efforts (planting shells, river diversions, marsh restorations) could make the lake look much prettier, as it was before mankind arrived.

Just a suggestion.

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And here's an article from 2007 mentioning the change that would occur in water quality if MRGO was closed, well today it finally is closed.
http://www.bestofneworleans.com/gamb...nt?oid=1247677

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In case anyone missed this. Transport for NOLA is sending around a petition to send to Washington to help get TIGER funding for the St. Claude Streetcar. Everyone go sign it!

http://www.change.org/petitions/sign...down-st-claude
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And here's an article from 2007 mentioning the change that would occur in water quality if MRGO was closed, well today it finally is closed.
http://www.bestofneworleans.com/gamb...nt?oid=1247677
I never realized the lake was clearer than it is now. I just always assumed it was really mucky. Can it ever be really clear though?

Signed the streetcar petition too!

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I think Jazz Fest, by being at the Fair Grounds, draws visitors to City Park and all the great restaurants, venues, and attractions of Mid-City.

There are also tons of tourists all the time who go up the St. Charles streetcar to Riverbend/Oak St, and up Magazine to Audubon. Large areas of the city are regularly traversed by visitors, not just the FQ/CBD. Hollygrove, Lakeview, and St. Roch aren't drawing too many tourists - nor should they.
I've known many people from out of town who visited New Orleans, spent all their time or almost all their time near Bourbon Street. These people were fascinated by Bourbon Street but ultimately disgusted by it (As they should be. face it Bourbon Street is an embarrassment). They left thinking the city was dirty, dangerous, sleazy, and a good place to get drunk for a couple days but not a place they'd want to return to or live in.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2012, 2:53 AM
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I've known many people from out of town who visited New Orleans, spent all their time or almost all their time near Bourbon Street. These people were fascinated by Bourbon Street but ultimately disgusted by it (As they should be. face it Bourbon Street is an embarrassment). They left thinking the city was dirty, dangerous, sleazy, and a good place to get drunk for a couple days but not a place they'd want to return to or live in.
Thats always the hard part of a district like that. New York's Times Square, Miami's South Beach, Las Vegas Strip, Detroit( well all of it), San Antonio Riverwalk, Memphis(Beale Street). Many of these areas are tourists traps in there respective cities and a knowledgeable traveler will go beyond there. I'm not sure there is a way to get completely over that. I do think an emphasis on New Orleans programming highlighting other areas of the city is really needed. It always amazes me the people who dont realize New Orleans has a pretty impressive skyline. I'm guessing they think it would look like Charleston, South Carolina. Problem is the media goes for easily recognizable pictures and that the French Quarter with some Superdome and Uptown/Garden District Mansion... sprinkled with Cemeteries, voodoo shops and Streetcars. Its going to take time to expand the message but I can tell it is working and that progress is being made on that front. The thing is I don't think a city as defined as New Orleans is supposed to be to everyone's tastes and nor should it. Just like Id never want to live in a generic, anywhere USA place. Its all in tastes and there are plenty of people who can figure out what New Orleans has to offer.
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