St. Charles Market [135 Barrette St] | 8 f | Completed

[kwoldtimer]

On a list of issues with this project, the shade of brick (or is it manufactured stone? - hard to tell from the renders) to be used would be fairly far down my list. I have no doubt that we'll still be able to find the original church structure among all the brown brick.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by rocketphish

The physical swallowing of the church seems preordained now. But it could be visually lessened with the use of not-brown masonry/cladding on the new construction, couldn't it? Why are they trying to make it match?

Shhh... CAMOUFLAGE!

[rocketphish]

Proposal calls for restaurant, food store in former Vanier church
Church housed the Order of Jacques Cartier, a French-speaking 'secret-society'

By Kate Porter, CBC News Posted: Nov 02, 2016 2:47 PM ET Last Updated: Nov 02, 2016 3:04 PM ET



A proposal to put a restaurant and food store within the former St. Charles church in Vanier, and surround the heritage building with housing units, will go before Ottawa's planning committee on November 8.

The Archdiocese made $4 million when it sold the building to Linebox Studio Inc. in 2013.

Now, the architecture firm Linebox Studio Inc., along with property developer ModBox, is seeking a zoning change to turn the nearly century old church building and its lot into a mixed-use development on Beechwood Avenue.

The church once housed the Order of Jacques Cartier, a French-speaking secret-society.

Now, the developer proposes that residents in the Vanier and New Edinburgh areas will shop there for food or dine in a new restaurant.

The church has heritage designation, so the plan is to restore it and keep the church and its belfry as the focal points on the site. The rectory behind will be torn down.

The proposal also calls for a c-shaped, eight-storey addition with 55 residential units, including townhouses at ground level and apartment-style units on upper floors. The residents would use an automated parking system that stacks vehicles.

Future plans also include a farmers' market, coffee shop, outdoor patios and open public space.

"We are happy to see the protection of the church and new activation for the main street," said Coun. Mathieu Fleury in comments submitted for the staff report.

Seventy people attended a public meeting about the proposal back in May, and Fleury noted that concerns remain about the eight-storey mass of buildings that would be built across from two-storey homes on Barrette Street.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...ment-1.3833021

[kwoldtimer]

Maybe Bridgehead can move their coffee shop over - the current Beechwood location is an overcrowded dump, albeit with a decent outdoor patio space.

[rocketphish]

The updated plans:

[OTSkyline]

Looks good, I like and not out of place for the area.

Wondering about that stacked underground parking though, wasn't there a small building in Westboro or something that had it installed? Wonder if it's working or not...

[lrt's friend]

I like how they are highlighting the church from the Beechwood side. I will always wait to see the end product but this looks like a good implementation of intensification.

[IntoTheCore]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

Looks good, I like and not out of place for the area.

Wondering about that stacked underground parking though, wasn't there a small building in Westboro or something that had it installed? Wonder if it's working or not...

That's the Eddy in Hintonburg. On http://www.theeddy.ca/building-features, scroll down to "What is Puzzle Parking?"

[cr872190]

Originally Posted by IntoTheCore

That's the Eddy in Hintonburg. On http://www.theeddy.ca/building-features, scroll down to "What is Puzzle Parking?"

I have a neighbor who rented in the Eddy for about a year. She said the puzzle parking was an absolute nightmare. It would break down constantly, essentially impounding people's cars. There is also apparently only one company in the area that does work on these so the repair time was slow and they could charge the condo board absurd maintenance and repair costs. Lines would also form in the morning to retrieve cars.

It's a shame cause I think it's such a cool idea, but making something as simple as parking so complex and mechanical invites so many unneeded and expensive problems.

[rocketphish]

This mechanical stacked parking scheme would instantly turn me away from any development that implements it. It was clearly designed for builders who want to minimize excavation and construction costs. It was clearly NOT designed for actual users, who may need to get to their car while it is "parked". How exactly do you run down to the garage to retrieve your phone/put some items into the trunk that you will need the next day/install your roof racks/tighten the child seat that seemed a bit loose yesterday/top-up your windshield washer fluid/etc/etc ? They may be a space-saver, but they are also a huge usability failure, IMO.

[gjhall]

Much improved, and if you pretend the church is white it doesn't even clash anymore!

[rocketphish]

Approved:

What should Vanier be? Proposed 18-storey complex drives debate on vision

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: November 8, 2016 | Last Updated: November 8, 2016 7:49 PM EST

A plan to build an 18-storey residential complex near a major intersection east of downtown has residents debating what Vanier should “be.”

Another Westboro?

A Hintonburg?

The Glebe?

DCR Phoenix has a long-term development plan to build six new buildings at 112 Montreal Rd. and 314 Gardner St., near the corner of Montreal Road and the Vanier Parkway. It would replace a motel complex on the land.

Council’s planning committee on Tuesday was considering the staff-recommended land-use alterations that would pave way for the development.

The proposed zoning change would let the developer build two 18-storey buildings, a 15-storey building and a 13-storey building. The developer also plans to build a six-storey mixed-use building on Montreal Road and seven-storey residential building on Gardner Street. There would be about 524 rental units in the buildings surrounding the Esso station at the southwest corner of the intersection.

There is no consensus in the community on the development’s potential to help build on the existing momentum in Vanier, which is slowly seeing renewal.

Resident Suzanne Lepine decried the “wall of towers” that would jam up the gateway intersection.

Dave Fraser, another resident, came to the meeting with a slide presentation titled “Vanier: The next Hintonburg?” and criticized the design of the proposed DCR Phoenix complex compared to what he sees in the community west of downtown.

“We don’t need a building. We need a vision,” businessman Paul Drouin said.

But the larger business community is smitten with the development plan.

“This is exactly the type of development prospective business owners are looking for,” according to Jamie Kwong, executive director of the Quartier Vanier BIA.

Rideau-Vanier Coun. Mathieu Fleury is concerned about the integration of the southern and western edges of the development into the surrounding community. He wants a gradual transition to the multi-level buildings and is asking the developer to consider townhouses on part of the property.

The committee approved the blueprint, with only Kitchissippi Coun. Jeff Leiper voting against it. He was skeptical about the developer’s transportation forecasts.

Nearly all of the focus of the planning committee meeting was on Vanier.

The committee also approved an application to transform a former church in north Vanier into a food store surrounded by eight storeys of residential units.

The new residential building, which would have 55 units, would also include a coffee shop. The developer is eager to let the community develop outdoor public space, which will include a farmers market.

Barrhaven Coun. Jan Harder, chair of the planing committee, is dazzled by the plan. It’s “big city-like,” she said.

Both Vanier applications go to city council Nov. 23.

Future of ramshackle O’Connor Street house deferred

The planning committee voted to put off a decision on 234 O’Connor St. until next spring.

Gemstone Developments wants to tear down the vacant red-brick house and establish a temporary park until it’s ready to develop the land and the neighbouring parking lot. The built-heritage subcommittee has refused Gemstone’s application.

The planning committee voted in favour of referring the application back to city staff for another review. The application will come back to the committee by April 11, 2017.

In the meantime, the city’s building code department will make sure the decrepit house isn’t a safety risk.

jwilling@postmedia.com
twitter.com/JonathanWilling

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-...bate-on-vision

[alrivers]

I'm quite familiar with The Eddy parking system. There were a couple rough months coming out of the gates (primarily user error), but the system has been working flawlessly for the past 10 months or so. Appears everyone has gotten used to the system, and it sounds like most residents are fans of the system.

[rocketphish]

A plan to breathe new life into an old Vanier church cleared a hurdle at city hall today
CBC Radio - All in a Day
Air Date: Apr 25, 2017 12:00 AM ET

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...oday-1.4085404

[kwoldtimer]

I notice that a wooden walkway has been installed all the way around the side and back of the church, with a long ramp leading to the entrance. What would they be up to?

[citydwlr]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I notice that a wooden walkway has been installed all the way around the side and back of the church, with a long ramp leading to the entrance. What would they be up to?

According to their Instagram page, they seem to be setting up their presentation centre inside the Church. Perhaps this is to help with bringing in materials? or Maybe it's to allow potential investors to take a look around the grounds?

They have some nice Sketches on their Facebook page regarding the public spaces of this project. If it gets built as proposed, it'll be a nice addition to that area/Ottawa.

[Senators1]

Floorplans and additional information is now up on their site : http://stcharlesmarket.ca/

Looks like the price list will have to be obtained in person.

[gosouth]

Didn't have a chance to get to the open house. Does anyone have the price for unit 603 (2 Bedroom + den / 2.5 bath, 1,822 Sq Ft).

[Vanier]

Originally Posted by gosouth

Didn't have a chance to get to the open house. Does anyone have the price for unit 603 (2 Bedroom + den / 2.5 bath, 1,822 Sq Ft).

The 2+1 units were selling for about 700k and were about 1200-1400 sq. ft. I was surprised to find that they had 5 bedroom units with 5 bathrooms!

[Capital Shaun]

Originally Posted by Vanier

The 2+1 units were selling for about 700k and were about 1200-1400 sq. ft. I was surprised to find that they had 5 bedroom units with 5 bathrooms!

So many bathrooms...