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[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Acajack

As you probably know, most people in Quebec don't give a shit about being viewed as tacky!

They don't care or they don't view it as tacky? I remember my first time driving through Quebec I was astonished at all the places along the highway selling above ground pools. The only place I'd seen one up until then was at one of those road side motels that also have miniature golf.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by isaidso

They don't care or they don't view it as tacky? .

That too.

Though most people in Quebec would acknowledge that an in-ground pool looks more "chic".

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

In ground pools are definitely best, but if you are thinking of getting rid of them as you get older, I'm not sure how much it would cost to fill in the hole and do landscaping afterwards. Probably at least $25,000.

Its a decision I will be struggling with in five years or so.

A friend of mine filled one in when he bought a house. He called up a pool company and asked if they'd like to fill his pool in with the soil removed from one of their pool projects. They said yes.

He got the hole filled in for free, and the pool company got a freebie on the dumping charges for one project. Win-win.

[TownGuy]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

I think a lot of people at least where I grew up north of Toronto considered above ground pools to be tacky and eyesores. Unless you could afford an in ground pool it was better to just landscape your yard or buy a trampoline. My sister has one in B.C and she calls it her white-trash bathtub. Personally I would love one if I had a backyard, I would definitely put a deck around it to camouflage it. .

Yep, same sentiment I've heard as well. Its in-ground or bust.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Correct, but some people do install one almost as a prestige thing and don't use it much at all. Obviously we're talking about in-ground pools in this case.

I assume that "keeping up with the Tremblays" would also be a part of it, in some cases.

[GreaterMontréal]

There are more than 500,000 residential pools in Quebec, 75% are above ground pools.
http://www.lapresse.ca/maison/cour-e...ur-dautres.php

[theman23]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

In ground pools are definitely best, but if you are thinking of getting rid of them as you get older, I'm not sure how much it would cost to fill in the hole and do landscaping afterwards. Probably at least $25,000.

Its a decision I will be struggling with in five years or so.

Don’t be a poor, get an indoor pool.

[lio45]

Here's a sample of Trois-Rivières:




I didn't even bother to cherry-pick, here's what this greater area looks like when zooming out:

[lio45]

FWIW, no neighborhood in my neck of the woods in Florida has such density of pools.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by GlassCity

and I think houses with pools go for less money.

So strange. I doubt that's the case in Quebec. In any case, I can guarantee in FL a houses with pools* go for significantly more (usually ~$20k to ~$30k more) than equivalent houses without them.

I'd assume an out-of-ground pool may be a wash in terms of value in Quebec, but an inground one would add significant value. I have a hard time imagining that would not universally be the case.



*inground, obviously - the only type that exists there.

[suburbanite]

Originally Posted by lio45

So strange. I doubt that's the case in Quebec. In any case, I can guarantee in FL a houses with pools* go for significantly more (usually ~$20k to ~$30k more) than equivalent houses without them.

I'd assume an out-of-ground pool may be a wash in terms of value in Quebec, but an inground one would add significant value. I have a hard time imagining that would not universally be the case.



*inground, obviously - the only type that exists there.

Pools in Florida are typically built more as an extension of the house itself. Attached with a screened in patio to make swimming possible without being eaten alive by either mosquitos or a large reptile. I could see that adding more value than one that is 50 feet away in the backyard.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by lio45

So strange. I doubt that's the case in Quebec. In any case, I can guarantee in FL a houses with pools* go for significantly more (usually ~$20k to ~$30k more) than equivalent houses without them.

I'd assume an out-of-ground pool may be a wash in terms of value in Quebec, but an inground one would add significant value. I have a hard time imagining that would not universally be the case.



*inground, obviously - the only type that exists there.

It also depends if it takes up the whole yard or not.

Mine does not so it is probably worth 25k more on the price of the house according to friends who are real estate agents.

Which is less than the total cost but still not bad. We have lots of fun in that pool.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It also depends if it takes up the whole yard or not.

Mine does not so it is probably worth 25k more on the price of the house according to friends who are real estate agents.

Which is less than the total cost but still not bad. We have lots of fun in that pool.

I've been told by realtors in Ontario that an in-ground pool does increase a home's resale value in Ontario, but that it also cuts the pool of potential resale buyers in half.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

There are more than 500,000 residential pools in Quebec, 75% are above ground pools.
http://www.lapresse.ca/maison/cour-e...ur-dautres.php

From that link: Montréal, champion canadien des piscines creusées: en 2014, 69 % des nouvelles piscines creusées au Canada ont été installées à Montréal.

My French is abysmal but does that say that Montreal is the champion of in ground pools: 2014, 69% of new in ground pools in Canada were installed in Montreal? If it does, that's an astonishing number. Btw, if there are 500,000 pools in Quebec then everyone in Quebec could be in a backyard swimming pool at the same time. That's 16 people/pool. Easily doable.

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by isaidso

From that link: Montréal, champion canadien des piscines creusées: en 2014, 69 % des nouvelles piscines creusées au Canada ont été installées à Montréal.

My French is abysmal but does that say that Montreal is the champion of in ground pools: 2014, 69% of new in ground pools in Canada were installed in Montreal? If it does, that's an astonishing number.

oui c'est ça.

[isaidso]

Merci beaucoup.

[AuxTown]

Saw these on Reddit today and thought SSP forumers might enjoy:

https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/WoodenE..._shop_redirect

I think I am going to purchase one for Ottawa





Algonquin Park is probably the coolest:

[Laceoflight]

That second map of Ottawa / Gatineau is awesome !!!

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Was doing some layout work for collegues at DTeG UdeM (research in geography). They released new data about the proportion of Canadians living in single-family detached homes, based on Census 2016 (it is part of a wider corpus of work about urban sprawl). The stats are about population centres, not city proper; important! Thought I would share it here :

[LeftCoaster]

No surprise to see Montreal and Vancouver at the bottom, but shocked to see Abbotsford so low.

[Docere]

Here's a Census Tract income map for the GTA. Unfortunately the article falls into the "downtown = old city" (LOL at the Beaches = downtown).

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...so-simple.html