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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 5:21 AM
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I think what everybody is hoping for is smooth sailing through the approval process so that the developer moves quickly (too quickly?) and the tower actually gets built. This won't happen, as when you are investing a couple of hundred million dollars, you do your due diligence, and so do your investors/financiers.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 5:32 AM
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^ though the transamerica is the tallest building in sf...
Actually TransAmerica is second tallest after Bank of America.
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 5:41 AM
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?? No its the tallest.

Its no slouch though, it would be the third tallest building in Canada today. Not exactly a poster child of good looking short buildings...
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2010, 6:27 PM
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You realise this tower has not been denied approval right? It just did not recieve the support of the UDP... this is a very standard scenario and will likely not have much of an impact on this tower and we will likely end up with a better end product.
The question is whether there will be a wholesale redesign or minor tweaks.

Both The Melville and the Ritz Carlton were completely redesigned after initial UDP non-support.

The Melville was originally a classical traditionally styled building -> the sail design.

The Ritz Carlton was a "vase" design with a standard oversized grid at the base and glass "vase" at the top -> Erickson brought in for twisty design
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2010, 5:33 AM
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?? No its the tallest.

You're right. What the hell was I thinking?!?!?!
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2010, 6:59 PM
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Any news on this one?
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2010, 7:42 PM
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Oxford is reworking it, and still plans on proceeding forward with the application. They want to have it ready to go and will then proceed with construction if they deem the demand is there.
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2010, 1:32 AM
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Oxford is reworking it, and still plans on proceeding forward with the application. They want to have it ready to go and will then proceed with construction if they deem the demand is there.
Reworking. . . as in the building design? How long would that take?

I wanna see this one take off. . . as soon as they are done "reworking".
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2011, 12:55 AM
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Does the recent view cone review/approval accelerate this project or its chances?
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2011, 1:04 AM
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This site isn't affected by the downtown opportunities for higher buildings review......so no, I doubt it.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2011, 1:33 AM
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Exactly, besides the small floorplate eliminates the possibility of going any higher anyways.
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Old Posted Feb 7, 2011, 12:23 AM
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An update, the design has been adjusted to reflect the critique from the udp and it's heading back there next week, Feb 9th. It already has a date scheduled for the development permit board as well on April 18th.

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1075 West Hastings Street DE414163 Musson Cattell Mackey Partnership

Proposed 36 storey office tower to be constructed on the existing University Club site at 1021 West Hastings. University Club facade to be retained with retail and restaurant spaces constructed on the ground floor. New construction to integrate parking and services with the existing Guinness parking structure below grade.

April 18, 2011
I still can't make any sense of the address 1075 which would place it over Portside park, as Guinness Tower is 1055 W. Hastings and it would seem unusal to change it's address to accommodate this.
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2011, 1:23 AM
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I'm in the audience at the UDP and this project has returned. It is a wholesale redesign. A back to the drawing board effort that massively improves on the first design. The proposed design has a much more organic form and there doesn't appear to be a straight line on it. A very high-end triple glazed curtain wall system will be used and it has offset two storey shallow vertical fins and there is opaque fritted glass on the slab edges that fades to clear vision glass for the floors above and below. The floorplate has changes from a symmetrical six-sided hexagon to an asymmetric triangle that curves on all sides and energetically rounds the corners and billows out somewhat to the north in a top to bottom convex curve and pulls in to the east to create a concave curve with an elegant cantilever near the top facing the Marine Bldg. The roof appears enclosed in glazing like the new 8th Avenue Place bldg in Calgary but it is a smooth curve that slopes in three dimensions up from the north and then tips over to the south with a five storey range in height. The building's signature "folding peak" (my words) faces east to the Marine Bldg and twists away to one side so that the view axis along Hastings to the Marine Bldg will not have the spire of that building clash with the major curving feature of the proposed office bldg. The height is just shy of 475' and it would look absolutely spectacular in the range of the new proposed max height in the CBD of around 700'. I enthusiastically declare this the best new office building proposal in the city.

Hed Kandi may actually approve of this one since it would be entirely at home in New York or the La Defense district of Paris. In fact this one reminds me a lot of one of the recent towers that went up in Paris in recent years.

The panel voted enthusiastically to support it and were nearly unanimous that it should be tall enough to stand above the Shaw Tower and Fairmont Pacific Rim.

It passed.
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I'm in the audience at the UDP and this project has returned. It is a wholesale redesign. A back to the drawing board effort that massively improves on the first design. The proposed design has a much more organic form and there doesn't appear to be a straight line on it. A very high-end triple glazed curtain wall system with offset two storey shallow veritcal fins and there is opaque fritted glass on the slab edges that fades to clear vision glass for the floors above and below. The floorplate has changes from a symetrical six-sided hexagon to an aysemetric triangle that curves on all sides and energetically rounds the corners and billows out somewhat to the north in a top to bottom convex curve and pulls in to the east to create a concave curve with an elegent cantilever near the top facing the Marine Bldg. The roof appears enclosed in glazing like the new 8th Avenue Place bldg in Calgary but it is a smooth curve that slopes in three dimensions up from the north and then tips over to the south with a five storey range in height. The building's signature "folding peak" (my words) faces east to the Marine Bldg and twists away to one side so that the view axis along Hastings to the Marine Bldg will not have the spire of that building clash with the major curving feature of the proposed office bldg. The height is just shy of 475' and it would look absolutely spectaular in the range of the new proposed max height in the CBD of around 700'. I enthusiastically declare this the best new office building proposal in the city.

Hed Kandi may actually approve of this one since it would be entirely at home in New York or the La Defense district of Paris. In fact this one reminds me a lot of one of the recent towers that went up in Paris in recent years.

The panel voted enthusiastically to support it and were nearly unanimous that it should be tall enough to stand above the Shaw Tower and Fairmont Pacific Rim.

It passed.
Great news, and great description! However, this is when a cameraphone comes in handy!
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I'm in the audience at the UDP and this project has returned. It is a wholesale redesign. A back to the drawing board effort that massively improves on the first design. The proposed design has a much more organic form and there doesn't appear to be a straight line on it. A very high-end triple glazed curtain wall system with offset two storey shallow veritcal fins and there is opaque fritted glass on the slab edges that fades to clear vision glass for the floors above and below. The floorplate has changes from a symetrical six-sided hexagon to an aysemetric triangle that curves on all sides and energetically rounds the corners and billows out somewhat to the north in a top to bottom convex curve and pulls in to the east to create a concave curve with an elegent cantilever near the top facing the Marine Bldg. The roof appears enclosed in glazing like the new 8th Avenue Place bldg in Calgary but it is a smooth curve that slopes in three dimensions up from the north and then tips over to the south with a five storey range in height. The building's signature "folding peak" (my words) faces east to the Marine Bldg and twists away to one side so that the view axis along Hastings to the Marine Bldg will not have the spire of that building clash with the major curving feature of the proposed office bldg. The height is just shy of 475' and it would look absolutely spectaular in the range of the new proposed max height in the CBD of around 700'. I enthusiastically declare this the best new office building proposal in the city.

Hed Kandi may actually approve of this one since it would be entirely at home in New York or the La Defense district of Paris. In fact this one reminds me a lot of one of the recent towers that went up in Paris in recent years.

The panel voted enthusiastically to support it and were nearly unanimous that it should be tall enough to stand above the Shaw Tower and Fairmont Pacific Rim.

It passed.
You got me excited!!! I cant wait to see it, and at 144 meters that is decently tall (although I would love to see a 170m + revision) But one step at a time, if this design is as good as you are describing it, then I will be plenty happy with it being 144 meters.
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The panel voted enthusiastically to support it and were nearly unanimous that it should be tall enough to stand above the Shaw Tower and Fairmont Pacific Rim.
But the Shaw Tower stands at 149 metres. I realize that the proposed site is on slightly higher ground, but I don't see how at 144 metres it will meaningfully "stand above the Shaw Tower and Fairmont Pacific Rim."



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Old Posted Feb 10, 2011, 3:36 AM
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...this is when a cameraphone comes in handy!
Indeed. The quality on my Blackberry is awful but this should suffice for the time being.


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There are too many curves and they're all too subtle. And if there's a fading fritted glass transition between floors like you say, the vertical fins will most certainly work against it. In fact the fins work against everything in the design... most likely one of those tacked on sustainability features...

It reminds me of the erickson buildings at the Olympic village... ie: the massive expense that went into the ever-so-subtle twisting form, yet looks indistinguishable and formless from a distance.
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