Sacramento - New Arena Plan

[Schmoe]

Shades of legitimacy.

[ltsmotorsport]

But really, go Kings!

[ozone]

Originally Posted by urban_encounter

<Edited>

After a great deal of thought, Ozone, I've decided that removing the scripture passage simply because your offended would be wrong. Because while it may not resonate with you, maybe there's somebody who will be touched by it. If your truly offended by a message of peace as you claimed to be, then you probably need to look no further than a mirror to ask yourself why?

^ I’m a little disappointed you. Pretty typical response I must say. I’m never offend by messages of peace- and there are lots of them. So your comments about looking in the mirror are pretty low. Anyway, I never expect a Christian/American to change their behavior or anything else because it offends another. Besides I’m not as offended as you might think really. I find it more annoying. Like a fruit fly buzzing around my head. Of course, I do things annoying all the time. Take my buzzing you about your bible verse inclusion as an example. To be honest- I don’t really care what another believes.

Now to the arena/Kings matter: With sponsors dropping like proverbial fruit flies --may be that downtown casino/hotel/arena idea doesn’t seem so far fetched after all?

[snfenoc]

From Ozone:
Of course, I do things annoying all the time.

No truer words have ever been said.

[ozone]

Oh god I’m surrounded. Nov. 23rd can’t come some enough.

[ltsmotorsport]

Originally Posted by ozone

I find it more annoying.

Well that doesn't offend people, you know, saying their religion is annoying. No. People appreciate that.

I don't mind you as a forumer ozone, but you can't expect to post stuff like that and get a positive response back. And also realize that Sacramento still has a large christian population, so it won't quit "buzzing around your head". Honestly, I was hoping for better from you. You've had better arguments here before.

*end rant.

[ltsmotorsport]

But hey, at least the Kings won a close game. Wish I could've seen it down here.

[ozone]

Originally Posted by ltsmotorsport

Well that doesn't offend people, you know, saying their religion is annoying. No. People appreciate that.

I don't mind you as a forumer ozone, but you can't expect to post stuff like that and get a positive response back. And also realize that Sacramento still has a large christian population, so it won't quit "buzzing around your head". Honestly, I was hoping for better from you. You've had better arguments here before.

*end rant.

I’m so glad you “don’t mind me” -Itsmoterspot -how tolerant of you. I was merely pointing out that this is a skyscraper forum is it not? This is not a religion forum, it’s not a bible forum, it’s not a sex forum, it’s not a AAA forum. So yeah I do find it annoying when people do not have the courtesy to tame their zeal to convert. And I don’t care if this were Virginia Beach, VA. You can roll your eyes all you want but does it make sense? BTW I don’t like bumper sticker either. I don’t care who you supported in the 1998 election and you know I’d rather you be fishing too- instead being that #%@*&% driver in front of me on the CCF.
Sorry to disappoint you.

*end rant.

What was the topic again?

[urban_encounter]

In the spirit of forgiveness........

Go Kings!!

[ozone]

Maybe the real reason we don’t have a new arena is that the residents of the City of Sacramento really don’t care about it as much as the people in the suburbs do?

A little old from the SNR 9/04 but I doubt much has changed:
According to a recent poll, only 16 percent of 600 Sacramentans polled rank “building a new Sacramento Kings arena” as a high priority for local governments. Out of 15 issues to be ranked as either “high” or “low” priority, the arena came in dead last. By comparison, “providing police and fire services” was considered a high priority by the greatest majority: 92 percent of respondents; “improving public schools” was second with 89 percent. Next to the arena, the lowest priority was “planning for development in the North Natomas area,” which only 29 percent considered a high priority.

KTKZ POLL
What do you think about a new Sacramento Sports Arena?

21% -The Maloof's must pay 50% of the total costs for me to support.
 
8% -Sacto should do whatever it can to build a new arena downtown.
 
59% -I will never support a new sports arena at tax payers expense.
 
12% -I support a new arena built in Natomas, not downtown.
 


Now to less important matters:

First ltsmotorsport you know zero, nada, nothing about my life. Secondly, you have tried to make this personal. So far you have not argued the point but have instead engaged in childish retort. You should know by now that often times I’m half-way joking. But it seems that it is you and not I who is most offended. I do not want to mix skyscrapers and religion. This is weird. But then again I didn’t post bits of my religion’s “holy text” at the end of every post.

“i will remind you that it sounded as if you you were on the verge of tears, pointing out how offended you were and how rude you thought our messages were.” HUH? What I really said was: “Besides I’m not as offended as you might think really.” Besides how can you remind me of something that was in only in your head to begin with? [sniff]

A peace loving gem-“Get out and enjoy life, because you sound as if your one miserable and cranky individual” [sniff]

Other examples of christian charity- “Frankly I don't give a crap what you think or the level of your disappointment. The best thing you could have done was to keep you yap shut” [sniff]


"The Why of Fry”
Man- "Get your piping hot horse burgers horse fries, horse cakes and shakes. We got tongue, straight from the horse's mouth” -Horse Pepsi okay?

[sugit]

In a way I think having had privately financed facilities has spoiled Sacramento.

I think you hit it on the head there.

[cascraperdude]

^^^^^^^^
Actually, I don't think this problem is unique to Sactown. So many cities looking to build a facility right now are in the same boat. Nobody wants to pay. Geez, look at Miami, and this is a major winning team.

[Schmoe]

I've stayed quiet on this bullshit, but you guys need to shut the fuck up and quit this personal nonsense! Those who have contributed to this either as instigators or responders need to just drop it and let it be.

[urban_encounter]

Tuy


Nice touch!!

[urban_encounter]

Originally Posted by cascraperdude

^^^^^^^^
Geez, look at Miami, and this is a major winning team.

They could build a 5,000 seat arena in Miami and still have plenty of seats open.

[enigma99a]

http://www.sacmag.com/archive/July2004/publisher.shtm

[ltsmotorsport]

Good article, and I would still hope that people still realize (yes, even Westfield) that 7th & K is still the best location in the region.

Remember this?

[brandon12]

Originally Posted by ltsmotorsport

Good article, and I would still hope that people still realize (yes, even Westfield) that 7th & K is still the best location in the region.

Remember this?

I agree 100%. Light rail, parking, existing retail/restaurants, freeway access, It's all there. Just expensive land, that's all.

If ever I were to agree with eminent domain, this would be the case...

[brandon12]

the problem is the eminent domain process would take too long (with law suits and posturing) and it would end up being 10 years before the arena were completed.

[enigma99a]

Well.. let's see. Westfield would probably cooperate. But ED would be needed for the offices on J as well as the SRO at 7th and L.

Let's get rolling on this. It's the best spot.