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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 1:57 AM
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U.S. States ranked by net migration of undergraduate students

http://nces.ed.gov/das/library/table...p&tableID=3138

Enrollment, residence, and migration of all first-time degree/certificate-seeking undergraduate students graduating from high school in the past 12 months enrolled at Title IV institutions, by state: fall 2004



1. Pennsylvania 12,540
2. Florida 11,194
3. North Carolina 8,032
4. District of Columbia 7,023
5. Indiana 5,477
6. Massachusetts 4,676
7. Arizona 4,099
8. Utah 4,090
9. Alabama 3,564
10. Iowa 3,493
11. South Carolina 3,481
12. Rhode Island 3,190
13. Virginia 3,186
14. Louisiana 3,143
15. West Virginia 2,696
16. Kentucky 2,613
17. Oklahoma 1,880
18. Kansas 1,863
19. North Dakota 1,778
20. Vermont 1,696
21. Mississippi 1,645
22. Arkansas 1,617
23. Missouri 1,572
24. Delaware 1,453
25. Tennessee 1,219
26. Wyoming 1,074
27. Colorado 916
28. Georgia 686
29. Idaho 607
30. Oregon 251
31. Wisconsin 225
32. New Hampshire 198
33. South Dakota 155
34. Montana 12
35. Michigan -8
36. Nebraska -98
37. New Mexico -194
38. Nevada -393
39. Hawaii -826
40. Alaska -1,110
41. Maine -1,119
42. Washington -1,289
43. Ohio -1,361
44. New York -1,551
45. Connecticut -2,347
46. Minnesota -2,779
47. California -3,383
48. Texas -5,743
49. Maryland -7,581
50. Illinois -10,511
51. New Jersey -22,443



Pennsylvania is tops in total "undergraduate in-migration": 27,082

New Jersey is tops in total "undergraduate out-migration": 26,088

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Old Posted Mar 24, 2007, 9:20 AM
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I wouldn't have expected Florida to be so high on such a list. Interesting way of looking at things.
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I wouldn't have expected Florida to be so high on such a list. Interesting way of looking at things.

Interestingly, Florida attracts a lot less out-of-state students than Pennsylvania does... for example... but an amazingly small amount of Floridians go out-of-state for school


out-of-staters coming to FL: 18k
FLers going out-of-state: 9k

out-of-staters coming to PA: 27k
PAers going out-of-state: 14k
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I understand Texas; but could someone reason NJ?


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I wouldn't have expected Florida to be so high on such a list. Interesting way of looking at things.
I would have thought Florida would be lower do to enrollment difficulties relative to other southern states excluding Georgia.
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I'd like to see public vs. private breakout.

The low and no population growth states relying on out-of-state tuitions at their flagship state universities are headed for trouble. Barring a massive change in Federal funding priorities they will be squeezed between private universities and far lower in-state tuitions.
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NJ is sort of sandwiched between states that seem to have alot of inmigration of students.
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I understand Texas; but could someone reason NJ?




I would have thought Florida would be lower do to enrollment difficulties relative to other southern states excluding Georgia.
I suppose NJ doesn't have a lot of significant universities and college per capita... the only one I can think of that would draw significant out-of-state population would be Princeton

I know when I went to Penn State... the NJ license plate was ubiquitous
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I'm surprised California is so low...

Wait a minute, it costs an arm and a leg to live here. No, I'm not surprised.
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I'm not surprised by the NJ numbers at all. I'm from Boston and went to school outside Philly - both areas had tons of undergrads from NJ and I agree with the post above that most of the folks going into NJ for school are going to Princeton. Other schools like Rutgers seem to draw more from in-state folks.
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Iowa at #10 and Illinois at #50 are DIRECTLY connected.
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Students make for lively communities, and they can be good workers, but they're a burden economically.

What you really want is students moving to your state post-degree. Some other state subsidizes their education, and you get the benefit. Washington state is in this category.

That said, I want Washington to add big dollars to education funding to better educate our own residents, and attract others from outside. We already have a very educated population (Seattle area) but this would improve those numbers also.
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^ Don't forget about private institutions of learning. Part of Washington's problem is lack of private universities as well as public. Imagine if we had a Stanford, Emory, Vanderbilt, U of Chicago, etc. in-state importing the best and brightest from other states. I wish today's bilionares would leave legacies like those of the past. The rivalry between Allen University and Gates University would be awesome!

Another problem with Washington is, until recently, most higher education funding went to building one of the most comprehensive community and technical college systems in the country and an uneccessary liberal arts college. Hopefully a few of the new branch campus 4 year schools can evolve into individual institutions complete with graduate and research programs.
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Interestingly, Florida attracts a lot less out-of-state students than Pennsylvania does... for example... but an amazingly small amount of Floridians go out-of-state for school
I saw a stat today that said Florida had the lowest university rates in the nation for in-state students. This could be one of the big reasons why so many people stay. Could also be the reason growth has been so slow in the system.
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I'm surprised California is so low...

Wait a minute, it costs an arm and a leg to live here. No, I'm not surprised.
Plus, it's virtually impossible to get in to the public universities as undergraduate from out-of-state. Unless you're a star athlete or are uniquely qualified for some specialized program, forget it.

I "teach" at UCI as a grad student, and I've asked my groups of undergrads to raise their hands if they're from out of state. There have only been a couple. The UC schools, especially all those that aren't Berkeley and LA, exist mostly to serve the population of California.
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