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Old Posted Feb 25, 2019, 6:25 PM
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Why am I not surprised the same "community activists" who are "insulted" by 40k high paying jobs and megabillions in new tax revenue are similarly "insulted" by tons of new affordable housing?

Maybe they need to pay a few more homeless to wave placards opposing Plan B. They can just use the back of their anti-Amazon placards.
They were never really for any of the plans for the LIC waterfront. When the larger Amazon plan appeared, suddenly they were complaining about the loss of the smaller plan. But you better believe they won't be happy this is back on the table.
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Why am I not surprised the same "community activists" who are "insulted" by 40k high paying jobs and megabillions in new tax revenue are similarly "insulted" by tons of new affordable housing?

Maybe they need to pay a few more homeless to wave placards opposing Plan B. They can just use the back of their anti-Amazon placards.
Against jobs.

Against affordable housing.

All city government in NY has become is a place for people to oppose things, and be constantly outraged, because it's easier to be outraged, than to actually propose fixes to problems.

If all they're ever going to say is, "No", why do they even have a say?
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2019, 4:10 AM
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All city government in NY has become is a place for people to oppose things, and be constantly outraged, because it's easier to be outraged, than to actually propose fixes to problems.

If all they're ever going to say is, "No", why do they even have a say?
It's the reaction to everything, it doesn't even matter what it is. They complain that there's too many people on the subway. Too many tourists on the streets. And too many neighborhoods have gentrified. They often talk about the good old days of New York, and the way things have changed too much.

Meanwhile, they forget that the reason the subways are crowded is because people are no longer afraid to ride the subways like so many people were when crime was rampant.





https://www.thewelcomeblog.com/stori...1980s/4/6/2016



They forget that the overrun touristy destination of Times Square today was the Times Square that was an unsafe, crime-ridden destination of the past. And the city has cleaned itself up enough that now there are more places and spaces people want to visit.








Lower Manhattan has been over-gentrified, but the alternative was this lovely streetscape...









And of course, the infamous "fear city" of the 70's...
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...icle-1.2069584



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That was way over the top, but it's an idea of the image people had of the city.


This is not to say that I am for "gentrification" as a cure all to all wrongs. But there can and should be improvements for all areas. You can't just say my neighborhood is shitty, and I have a right to keep it that way. That's not how things work, nor is it how they should work.

The city needs more housing, everyone knows that. But as soon as a new housing development is proposed, everyone is up in arms.
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