Homicide stats in Canadian Cities

[drpgq]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

Once confirmed, it will be Ottawa's 16th of the year.

Edit: Correction - CBC says it was the 15th of the year. Total in 2017 was 14.

What's the record for Ottawa since amalgamation I wonder?

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by drpgq

What's the record for Ottawa since amalgamation I wonder?

There were 24 homicides in 2016. In recent decades, there would have been no more than one or two years with more than that, I believe.

[vid]

Assault victim dies of her injuries
Police say they expect to lay second-degree murder charges against 25-year-old suspect Peter Keeash.

THUNDER BAY – A woman found unresponsive earlier this week at a Dufferin Street apartment has died.

...

Investigators are expected to change the charge from attempted murder to second-degree murder against 25-year-old suspect Peter Keeash, who remains behind bars.

Det. Insp. Ryan Hughes said Keeash and the victim did have a relationship but would not comment further.

According to a 2012 article in the Winnipeg Sun, Keeash was sentenced to five years in prison for a home invasion gone wrong that led to him being sliced in the stomach with his own machete.

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The investigation into the city’s sixth murder of 2018 continues.

I said the previous one was the fourth, but it was actually the fifth. I am forgetting one.

[Doady]

People get too focused on number of murders for a particular year. One year may be an outlier. Long term trends are more important.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Doady

People get too focused on number of murders for a particular year. One year may be an outlier. Long term trends are more important.

Yes.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Doady

People get too focused on number of murders for a particular year. One year may be an outlier. Long term trends are more important.

Yeah, murders seem to be up and down, but shootings at least in cities like Toronto and Ottawa tend to be on the increase fairly consistently and significantly from year to year.

You can read into that what you want.

[Calgarian]

MacLean's list of the most dangerous cities in Canada for 2019. I'm sure you can rank it by homicides, but I just went with all crime. Calgary is 80th, worse than Toronto and Montreal, Better than Vancouver, Edmonton and Winnipeg. If you rank it by change over the last 5 years (default setting), you can tell which province is having a hard time economically...

https://www.macleans.ca/canadas-most...Vb9YI4WrersTP4

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

MacLean's list of the most dangerous cities in Canada for 2019. I'm sure you can rank it by homicides, but I just went with all crime. Calgary is 80th, worse than Toronto and Montreal, Better than Vancouver, Edmonton and Winnipeg. If you rank it by change over the last 5 years (default setting), you can tell which province is having a hard time economically...

https://www.macleans.ca/canadas-most...Vb9YI4WrersTP4

I've always found that list a bit bizarre and hard to follow.

I get the sense that police services tabulate certain crimes differently.

For example, my own city of Gatineau has an "assault" rate two and a half times that of neighbouring Ottawa. They have four times our population yet we have 1400 assaults listed and they only have 2400. All other violent crime metrics for Ottawa are higher than us: murders, shootings, sexual assaults, etc. They have swarming on a semi-regular basis, and we have none. So our assault numbers make us a more "dangerous" city than Ottawa.

Quebec City, which is half the size of Ottawa and a fairly placid city by Canadian standards, actually has more total assaults tabulated than Canada's capital.

Hmm.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Acajack

I've always found that list a bit bizarre and hard to follow.

I get the sense that police services tabulate certain crimes differently.

For example, my own city of Gatineau has an "assault" rate two and a half times that of neighbouring Ottawa. They have four times our population yet we have 1400 assaults listed and they only have 2400. All other violent crime metrics for Ottawa are higher than us: murders, shootings, sexual assaults, etc. They have swarming on a semi-regular basis, and we have none. So our assault numbers make us a more "dangerous" city than Ottawa.

Quebec City, which is half the size of Ottawa and a fairly placid city by Canadian standards, actually has more total assaults tabulated than Canada's capital.

Hmm.

Definitely, I think this is the conclusion we came to after this was published last year. It's interesting to compare cities with this tool nonetheless, just don't take it for 100% fact.

[vid]

Thunder Bay ranked surprising low on that list. We were number 1 a few years ago.

[Djesus777]

25 now for Montreal, more than 2016/2017 year totals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...trie-1.4895010

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Djesus777

25 now for Montreal, more than 2016/2017 year totals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...trie-1.4895010

A hit in Little Italy - how old school!

[JuelzJones]

No murders in Toronto since October 20th

[vid]

Thunder Bay has had a seventh homicide. The victim of this homicide is also a convicted murderer from a 2005 homicide, and has connections to several other convicted murderers.

Also, Chapter 4 of Canadaland's Thunder Bay podcast is up and it's absolutely horrific.

[Coldrsx]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

MacLean's list of the most dangerous cities in Canada for 2019. I'm sure you can rank it by homicides, but I just went with all crime. Calgary is 80th, worse than Toronto and Montreal, Better than Vancouver, Edmonton and Winnipeg. If you rank it by change over the last 5 years (default setting), you can tell which province is having a hard time economically...

https://www.macleans.ca/canadas-most...Vb9YI4WrersTP4

The wild west

Economically, historically, socially or anthropologically or a combination thereof?

[Darkoshvilli]

27 for Montreal

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...iked-1.4903397

[Djesus777]

Originally Posted by Darkoshvilli

27 for Montreal

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...iked-1.4903397

Hopefully, this spike in homicides isn't a trajectory of what's to come. I was hoping we'd go below 23 this year but I guess not. Still got 1 1/2 months left this year.

[TorontoDrew]

Toronto has had a couple of bad years, hopefully we can drop back down next year. it does look like we will have the worse year so far though. But again for a city our size we are very safe. The van attack has inflated this years numbers as well.

1990[28] 55
1991[29] 89
1992[30] 65
1993[31] 59
1994[32] 65
1995[33] 58
1996[34] 58
1997[35] 61
1998[36] 56
1999[37] 47
2000[38] 60
2001[39] 59
2002[40] 62
2003[41] 67
2004[43] 64
2005[45] 80
2006[45] 70
2007[46] 86
2008[46] 70
2009[46] 62
2010[46] 65
2011[47] 51
2012[47] 57
2013[47] 57
2014[47] 58
2015[49]  59
2016[50] 75
2017[53] 65
2018[54] 88

Chicago 2018 - 486

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew

Toronto has had a couple of bad years, hopefully we can drop back down next year. it does look like we will have the worse year so far though. But again for a city our size we are very safe. The van attack has inflated this years numbers as well.

1990[28] 55
1991[29] 89
1992[30] 65
1993[31] 59
1994[32] 65
1995[33] 58
1996[34] 58
1997[35] 61
1998[36] 56
1999[37] 47
2000[38] 60
2001[39] 59
2002[40] 62
2003[41] 67
2004[43] 64
2005[45] 80
2006[45] 70
2007[46] 86
2008[46] 70
2009[46] 62
2010[46] 65
2011[47] 51
2012[47] 57
2013[47] 57
2014[47] 58
2015[49]  59
2016[50] 75
2017[53] 65
2018[54] 88

Chicago 2018 - 486

Toronto hit 89 for the year, with a shooting last night.

[Calgarian]

Damn, Toronto is probably going to hit 100 if this trend continues.