Twelve West | 22 floors | Complete

[tworivers]

^^^ No, that is a pre-Skylab rendering for the original renovation they had planned for the existing building.

[philopdx]

Update 3-08-08

[philopdx]

Update 3-16-08:

[philopdx]

Update 3-22-08:

[downtownpdx]

I'm assuming ZGF is considered 'downtown' -- I guess it's the West End, but I figure anything east of I-405 and south of Burnside is downtown.

[MarkDaMan]

wish it was still 30 something floors...but yeah, excited to see it go up here too!

[WonderlandPark]

This is the only tower I am not a fan of. The design is great, but the location is terrible. It totally overpowers Stark and the nearby areas. It would not surprise me that this tower sparks a sort of outrage, like the rose friend tower on the park blocks. Nimbys will make hay with these towers and try to get limits. I know an architect and planner who also think this is a terrible location for something this tall.

[MarkDaMan]

I don't think so. There are a lot of open parking lots and not a lot of housing in the area. With the new tower on the Eagle site, a redeveloped Silverado block, and some of those parking lots developed, this area will go high quick. I just don't know who the NIMBYs would be. It's really a no mans land.

[WestCoast]

I see what you are saying wonderland, but I think I side with Mark with the redevelopment catalyst idea.

This area, just like the Montgomery Blocks, really need something big to go on, to get people's attention.

It's certainly 'off the radar' now, but with a nice tower rising up, hopefully we can see that area pick itself up.

[PacificNW]

Refresh me....what/where are the Montgomery Blocks?

[bvpcvm]

yeah, really, who would these nimbys be? if you mean people living in the brewery blocks, then they're being pretty hypocritical. i would be surprised to see much opposition develop.

[zilfondel]

As long as we get to keep the Ringler's Annex coffee shop, the Crystal, and the Fez. Those are some of the major backbones to the 'hood.

Although I really wish the old Django's space would get leased. It's been sitting vacant for what, 4 years or so? That's ridiculous for such a popular area...

[WestCoast]

Montgomery Blocks roughly bound market street and harrison street between 2nd and 5th

Basically by the harrison, the new cyan building, and just east of PSU

[PacificNW]

Thanks....

[urbanlife]

cant wait to watch this one rise in the city.

[WonderlandPark]

There is going to be a backlash in general about density. ALL of my pdx friends and their friends and at parties, ect, people are complaining. They think the Pearl is fine, but taller buildings downtown, downtown creeping out in general (like the tower on Burnside at the stadium). Particular ire is felt in Southeast, the densification on Belmont and Hawthorne has people up in arms. A vote or backlash limiting development in the next few years would not surprise me at all.

[sopdx]

Doesn't sound like a backlash to me but just good old NIMBYism at work. We will have increased density regardless, especially with a projected 1 million more by 2020 and an intact Urban Growth boundary. Most people I know love the Civic and welcome the increased urbanization in the core.

I hardly consider Hawthorne or Belmont dense. There have been some condos built but you can count the number on one hand. If people don't like density, they shouldn't live in a city.

[zilfondel]

there are state laws that require cities to take on growth. Although the city's plan is just starting to go through its revamp...

southeast is just full of stuck up hippies, tho. Almost everyone I know of who lives in the neighborhood hates the Pearl and thinks it is full of super richie-rich people who are destroying Oregon.

Typical Oregon provincialism, "don't move here" attitude. Can't wait to see it go away.

[MarkDaMan]

I can see people complaining about downtown getting taller and bigger, though I personally haven't heard anything like that. However, NIMBYism only kicks in when it is in their back yard.

So maybe some of the people living in NW don't like the tall towers downtown, but when they aren't building it a few blocks away from them, they aren't motivated enough to organize and oppose dense development downtown. That would apply in the eastside too.

I mean, the only person that appealed PAW was a man whom lives in affordable housing a few blocks up...consequently someone told me that building the guy lives in is owned by Moyer, but I don't know that for certain.

[bvpcvm]

Originally Posted by WonderlandPark

There is going to be a backlash in general about density. ALL of my pdx friends and their friends and at parties, ect, people are complaining. They think the Pearl is fine, but taller buildings downtown, downtown creeping out in general (like the tower on Burnside at the stadium). Particular ire is felt in Southeast, the densification on Belmont and Hawthorne has people up in arms. A vote or backlash limiting development in the next few years would not surprise me at all.

i would think, though, that people on belmont or hawthorn at least tend to buy in to the whole idea of limiting sprawl, so, given the choice of towers on belmont or more scholls ferry roads, i would hope, anyway, they'd choose the towers. on the other hand, for people living on belmont it's probably fairly easy to ignore the suburbs and just pretend they don't exist. i could definitely, however, see backlash from people in less hipster neighborhoods.