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[Wayward Memphian]

Originally Posted by Huntsvillenative

Why not just refurbish it back into a entertainment complex? I'm always hearing people in Memphis say there's nothing to do at night for young adults. It failed before because of poor security and trouble makers running people off. With new security, it could become the premier EC in the midsouth and a major destination for young adults (not criminals and gang members) and families and out of town visitors. The location near the Pyramid fits well too.

With the right creative minds involved, Peabody Place could become Memphis' own indoor version of Universal's 'City Walk'.

But after all, it is Memphis and we know how things end up. So it'll probably become an outlet mall or something stupid and tacky.

Have you seen the boutique bowling alleys? There's a new one that just opened up in Vegas that a concept themed to more of a blues vibe could be something that fits your ideas. I'm trying to get a local guy to convert the old bowling alley up here in NWA that was turned into an event center and little used. Anyway, Check this out:


http://www.thrillist.com/entertainme...llist%20Digest

[Wayward Memphian]

Originally Posted by James Owen

I like the whole concept and idea for The SOFO (kinda reminds me of The Varsity in Atlanta for some reason), but not so much the location, which is surrounded by vacant and underdeveloped plots of land. Maybe if it was part of a much broader development with apartments, some ground-level retail, etc; it could succeed, but alone, The SOFO will have a very short life span at that spot.

While I'm not sold on the whole converting of the old Peabody Place Mall into a conference center, at the end of the day, something needs to be done with it other than just letting it sit there collecting cobwebs. My biggest gripe, however, is when it comes to doing big projects in Memphis, particularly publicly-financed ones, there's always been an insistence of cost over quality, and the end result winds up being anything but first-class in design. As arkitekte mentioned, spending $60 million to spruce up the current Cook Convention Center will not get you much compared to the $500+ million Nashville spent building Music City Center. With that much money, at the very least, you can give the place a new paint job, new roofing, and maybe re-skin the older portion of the building, but that's about it, and you would still wind up with an undersized, outdated facility.

Let me clarify, Sucks for that location.

Cook is obsolete and needs repurposed, a new convention center near the entertainment geared to adults core is preferable. Any money spent on Cook being still used as a convention center is wasted money. I haven't stepped foot in Cook since the end of the Wonders series.

[Wayward Memphian]

Originally Posted by Huntsvillenative

I wonder if Hard Rock will be interested in buying it? Although they already have the HRH Casino in Biloxi. But it's only a 250-room hotel, too.

I apologize for posting three times in a row, the trouble with Tunica is it's in the middle of nowhere. That story tells the tale, with Harrahs/Grand attracting 3 million and change pre recession and half that now. In that time, Arkansas has allowed it's two tracks to add electronic gaming, Indian Casinos in Oklahoma have evolved into Tunica equivalent or better locales and the Gulf Coast has evolved. I 69 is decades away from extending beyond where it ends in Tunica Co. The grand plans pre recession, like theme parks and such are now just dust in the wind. That's why I think Harrah's closed the big one and not the two smaller venues, it's basically just a Memphis/North Mississippi with a little of East Arkansas market now.

[VSRJ]

Originally Posted by arkitekte

I am most impressed with the setback and the width of the sidewalk that fronts Southern. I'm not a huge fan of the choice of color for the facade, but that's not too big of an issue. The back side however...I drove by last weekend and it scared me.

Have they broken ground on the other apartment building yet?

Not that I've noticed, but I haven't driven past the spot in a few weeks. I'll have to check it out to see if anything has changed. It's good to see some dense developments in the area -- they're much needed.

[Huntsvillenative]

Originally Posted by Wayward Memphian

Have you seen the boutique bowling alleys? There's a new one that just opened up in Vegas that a concept themed to more of a blues vibe could be something that fits your ideas. I'm trying to get a local guy to convert the old bowling alley up here in NWA that was turned into an event center and little used. Anyway, Check this out:


http://www.thrillist.com/entertainme...llist%20Digest

Now THAT'S what Memphis needs!

[DoomJ]

Seem to remember some chatter about Taylor Berger and others wanting to do a bowling alley concept like that in an old warehouse on Broad.

[kingchef]

Originally Posted by arkitekte

No doubt. I'm curious to what will be said tomorrow, especially from Collins. Not to get political (which in this case it actually pertains to development), but as the FOX13 article mentioned his district has been constantly passed over for redevelopment funding even though it was considered a priority. With that being said, they had better try to keep from using City funds to redevelop Peabody Place and concentrate that effort toward a new convention center, but that new convention center would only be doable with a tax increase, and we all know how that will go down.

Belz more than likely has the money to redevelop it on their own, but if they think that the City will pay for it, they'll let the City make that move. Between the shortage of hotel rooms and the limited amount of meeting space, I doubt that the Peabody Place would attract any conventions of a decent size that would make that a wise investment for the City.

post 2406 has both statements w/ which i agree, and those w/ which i don't. i think we would have to define what parameters make up a "sports...world-class facility...?" to me, it would have to be significantly larger than the average sports arena, perhaps, it would need to accommodate several sports events/venues, which could be played at the same time as the largest sports event. i believe it would have to have some leading architectural elements, which saves space, improves the audience experience, technology improvements which enhances various areas of sports games, concert presentations, and so on and so forth.

the benefits best offered by the peabody is served by following through w/ a hotel. make it a highrise, make it mid to upper in luxury accommodations, and building a large vertical car garage. to me, this makes sense, as we know that there continues to be a need for hotel accommodations, and for that matter, for car parking. a convention center is needed, if we want to make it a core principle for city growth, originiation of distanation, and the rest of that line. much of the work is completed, as one considers the smartest and best thing for the city. the other plan, seems to benefit one or two individuals, in addition to adding a possible tax ht. it seems that building a 6-7 hundred million dollar convention center would serve memphis' needs in several ways. having a new convention center will let those who sell memphis get in the door w/ the "product." if it is built well, and it has an interesting design that attracts several organizations, curiousity will help bring in conventions. conventions that have been turned down, due to size of the cook, might very well return to a larger venue. i wonder if a permanent segment of the cook could be used for traveling shows, exhibitions, and specialty acts. i would love to see changing venues every 6 months or so, such as the ones w/ the exhibitions of catherine the great, the titanic, and the egyptian exhibition. if i recall correctly, these were very interesting and they brought a number of people into the city. we didn't have to have nashville to lead them into memphis, nor pigeon forge. they came because they wanted to see the exhibit, and many came as family units.

[Johnny Ryall]

Meh, the bowling alley/concert hall isn't bad, but not something that would transform entertainment in Downtown Memphis. We just had Minglewood Plaza open up a handful of years back in Midtown. Sure it doesn't have the novelty of bowling lanes to the side of the stage, but is a similar concept on a larger scale than what's shown in the picture and probably has more amenities for entertainers (Minglewood Hall is known for that). Any new major-proposals for Downtown or Midtown Memphis with a concert hall as one of its main components & revenue streams is not financially sound. This city is already saturated with concert venues, especially Downtown & Midtown. Also, more small - large size venues have risen to the east & south. What we need first & foremost is more active promotion like what Green Machine Concerts is starting to address. The boutique bowling alley idea by itself is cool and I think it would do good if strategically placed in Midtown.

As for the proposed Peabody Suites, we won't have to worry about it becoming a failed tourist mall/entertainment center again because Belz & others capital will never flow into such an idea. The Peabody Place MALL COMPONENT, in my opinion & certainly others, was horrible from the beginning. Don't get me wrong, the upscale apartments, 15-story Class A office tower, etc. are an absolute success. The mall always felt like a cheap capitalization on top of the historic grit of Beale Street. It had a honeymoon period, but was never a real hit with Memphians and it definitely isn't something tourist want to visit. People hanging out downtown want to take in the culture & history of Memphis, not go shopping in a mall with chain stores. Peabody Suites should go full steam ahead in some form or fashion. Would a "Peabody Conference Center" perform better than Peabody Suites and result in more external hotel development? I would hope so, but only if Belz were majority partner & oversee property management.

Belz.com


Moving on from "Peabody Suites vs. Peabody Conf. Center", should the city stop there? No, but the conference center proposal would allow them to skimp on meeting space while building another mid-sized convention center in the neighborhood that concentrated on large-room events. That coupled with continued upgrades to the Cook CC would probably be the way to go from both a fiscal & growth-based approach. The Nashville convention market grew for years with dual-major facilities (Nashville CC & Gaylord Opryland Resort & CC) before building Music City Center. Memphis should NOT spend $700million - $1Billion, more like $300-$400million and offer incentives for a hotel tower.

[arkitekte]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ryall

Meh, the bowling alley/concert hall isn't bad, but not something that would transform entertainment in Downtown Memphis. We just had Minglewood Plaza open up a handful of years back in Midtown. Sure it doesn't have the novelty of bowling lanes to the side of the stage, but is a similar concept on a larger scale than what's shown in the picture and probably has more amenities for entertainers (Minglewood Hall is known for that). Any new major-proposals for Downtown or Midtown Memphis with a concert hall as one of its main components & revenue streams is not financially sound. This city is already saturated with concert venues, especially Downtown & Midtown.Also, more small - large size venues have risen to the east & south. What we need first & foremost is more active promotion like what Green Machine Concerts is starting to address. The boutique bowling alley idea by itself is cool and I think it would do good if strategically placed in Midtown.

As for the proposed Peabody Suites, we won't have to worry about it becoming a failed tourist mall/entertainment center again because Belz & others capital will never flow into such an idea. The Peabody Place MALL COMPONENT, in my opinion & certainly others, was horrible from the beginning. Don't get me wrong, the upscale apartments, 15-story Class A office tower, etc. are an absolute success. The mall always felt like a cheap capitalization on top of the historic grit of Beale Street. It had a honeymoon period, but was never a real hit with Memphians and it definitely isn't something tourist want to visit. People hanging out downtown want to take in the culture & history of Memphis, not go shopping in a mall with chain stores. Peabody Suites should go full steam ahead in some form or fashion. Would a "Peabody Conference Center" perform better than Peabody Suites and result in more external hotel development? I would hope so, but only if Belz were majority partner & oversee property management.

I agree with all of that above. What's hard is the fact that we know with the Cannon Center, Mud Island Amphitheater, the Orpheum, The Forum, Minglewood, Landers Center, (and I guess you might as well throw in venues like the Botanical Gardens since they've constructed their permanent stage, and the Levitt Shell since it's busy most of the weekends throughout the summer) that the market is over run with venues. However, as you mentioned above people want authentic Memphis/history/culture when they come to Memphis, and while we have cotton, barbeque, civil rights, etc. our money maker is music.

1 venue downtown that functioned similar to Minglewood might not be too bad, but if it were developed, it would IMO need to be smaller than Minglewood and be busy damn near every night of the week.

Moving on from "Peabody Suites vs. Peabody Conf. Center", should the city stop there? No, but the conference center proposal would allow them to skimp on meeting space while building another mid-sized convention center in the neighborhood that concentrated on large-room events. That coupled with continued upgrades to the Cook CC would probably be the way to go from both a fiscal & growth-based approach. The Nashville convention market grew for years with dual-major facilities (Nashville CC & Gaylord Opryland Resort & CC) before building Music City Center. Memphis should NOT spend $700million - $1Billion, more like $300-$400million and offer incentives for a hotel tower.

I think that $300-$400 million is enough to build a new convention center; I think that spending anything over than that isn't necessarily a good idea at this time. I don't however think that a redevelopment of the Cook CC should be attempted until well after a new space is constructed. Open the Cook CC up to a private redevelopment if you need to.

I'm torn over the City putting money into Peabody Place. Belz obviously knows that the City is desperate for "better" meeting space and they also know that it's the City's cheapest option. Other than the removal of dead space in the heart of the CBD (and the new tourist dollars, although I don't know how much of an impact it would be), the City doesn't gain anything with Peabody Place. If the City goes with the "Help Belz w/ Peabody and fix up the Cook" plan, they still lack the amount of actual meeting space that would attract new conventions.

Sprucing up old space isn't going to get other private developments started IMO. There needs to be some major or at least slightly major development to break ground first. Once that happens everything else will fall in line.

[arkitekte]

For anyone who wants to read it, here's the mayor's statement about the Cook CC, Peabody, and other things related. I love how the Main Street Trolley is supposed to be the key to connecting the Cook to PP...I'm sure that will work fine as long as there's no more than 50-100 people that need to transition from the PP to the Cook in no less than 40 minutes. Maybe they can give out some segway coupons.





Sorry they're small, but if you right click and open the images in a new tab, you can zoom in on them which will make them a little easier to read. Also, if you're on Twitter, Paul Morris from the Downtown Memphis Commission (@memphismorris) and Steve Ross from the Flyer (@vibinc) have been having a good discussion about this.

Earlier Morris stated that they needed roughly 200-400 new hotel rooms near the Cook to justify the rehab/redevelopment of the Cook. Good luck finding a developer willing to build a 400 room hotel tower without the promise of a new look convention center with new look conventions. If that were the case, then the Marriott/Sheraton would have continued with their new tower construction.

[Johnny Ryall]

Originally Posted by arkitekte

1 venue downtown that functioned similar to Minglewood might not be too bad, but if it were developed, it would IMO need to be smaller than Minglewood and be busy damn near every night of the week.

Hard to do that since we have the New Daisy Theatre that already doesn't stay booked enough. The Daisy's capacity is just under 1000 (Minglewood Hall is about 1,700) & then you have Handy Park Pavilion on the other end of the block from the Daisy which can squeeze in maybe 2,000. Venture further west on Beale and you'll hit the Orpheum Theater which holds about 2,400. From there travel directly to the north end of the Main St. Mall and we've got the Cannon Center which I think sits another 2,200. Walk out the southwest exit and look across Wolf River Harbor at Mud Island Amphitheatre with 5,000+ seats. That's a lot of empty seats on any given night, albeit some are seasonal. The only thing I see not going out of business in that market niche would be a place with very strong in-house booking & promotion like the House Of Blues circuit.

Originally Posted by arkitekte

I don't however think that a redevelopment of the Cook CC should be attempted until well after a new space is constructed. Open the Cook CC up to a private redevelopment if you need to.

I would almost be in that mode of thought if the Cook CC wasn't in the Tourist Development Zone with the Pyramid & Pinch District. That state sales tax being available to help flip the bill is something to consider and the Cook CC is just too important for the overall health of its immediate area. If the plug were pulled or it was allowed to fall even further behind, I would imagine the effects devastating TDZ tax collections through sales in the zone & hotel nights at the Sheraton & Crown Plaza towers.

Originally Posted by arkitekte

I'm torn over the City putting money into Peabody Place. Belz obviously knows that the City is desperate for "better" meeting space and they also know that it's the City's cheapest option. Other than the removal of dead space in the heart of the CBD (and the new tourist dollars, although I don't know how much of an impact it would be), the City doesn't gain anything with Peabody Place. If the City goes with the "Help Belz w/ Peabody and fix up the Cook" plan, they still lack the amount of actual meeting space that would attract new conventions.

I'll admit I'm a little intrigued by the proposal, but I'd have to see plans, renderings & cost estimates. Keep in mind that Peabody Place Mall is 300,000 sqft. which is more square footage than the Cook CC. Although, the building lacks the structural setup for a pillars-free 125,000 sqft. exhibition hall. Again, is there a more detailed plan? I can't formulate an opinion just yet. I agree that mobility for conventioneers couldn't rely solely on the trolley. Perhaps express buses & trollies could pull it off together. Also, the walk between the 2 isn't bad. Only a 10 or 15 minute stroll on Main St... I was interested to hear Muvico 22 theaters announced as stadium-seating lecture/conference rooms.

Even the press release was too vague, but good find & thanks for sharing. Debate on how to upgrade and/or develop more convention space & hotel rooms is heating up into civic discussion. Subjects like "Should it be one major project or spread amongst 2 or 3 facilities with pedestrian-friendly connection & express transit" are fascinating. It will be interesting to see how this all comes together.

[arkitekte]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ryall

Hard to do that since we have the New Daisy Theatre that already doesn't stay booked enough. The Daisy's capacity is just under 1000 (Minglewood Hall is about 1,700) & then you have Handy Park Pavilion on the other end of the block from the Daisy which can squeeze in maybe 2,000. Venture further west on Beale and you'll hit the Orpheum Theater which holds about 2,400. From there travel directly to the north end of the Main St. Mall and we've got the Cannon Center which I think sits another 2,200. Walk out the southwest exit and look across Wolf River Harbor at Mud Island Amphitheatre with 5,000+ seats. That's a lot of empty seats on any given night, albeit some are seasonal. The only thing I see not going out of business in that market niche would be a place with very strong in-house booking & promotion like the House Of Blues circuit.

I completely forgot about the New Daisy and Handy Park, which further makes your point that the market is over saturated.

I would almost be in that mode of thought if the Cook CC wasn't in the Tourist Development Zone with the Pyramid & Pinch District. That state sales tax being available to help flip the bill is something to consider and the Cook CC is just too important for the overall health of its immediate area. If the plug were pulled or it was allowed to fall even further behind, I would imagine the effects devastating TDZ tax collections through sales in the zone & hotel nights at the Sheraton & Crown Plaza towers.

That has to be considered as well, however, if Bass Pro has a strong showing in their first two or so years, I think the City could potentially visit other alternatives for the Cook (as far as the well being of the Sheraton and Crown Plaza hotels).

Even the press release was too vague, but good find & thanks for sharing. Debate on how to upgrade and/or develop more convention space & hotel rooms is heating up into civic discussion. Subjects like "Should it be one major project or spread amongst 2 or 3 facilities with pedestrian-friendly connection & express transit" are fascinating. It will be interesting to see how this all comes together.

The one positive thing to having 2 or 3 facilitates that are spread out around downtown is that each one could potentially create its own small pocket of development. I think you would need one main space that would be the central point of whatever convention or conference is taking place (that would potentially be the new space or the Cook since one of the main needs is more hotel space that in theory would be directly near or adjacent to the convention center).

I'm currently too lazy to go back and look, but how many rooms are proposed in the redevelopment of 100 N. Main...and what brand hotel was mentioned?

It's been stated that the future of the Cook is going to be determined on the development of a 200-400 room hotel; while 100 N. Main won't be able to bring on that many rooms, I'm curious to see how it will be handled if A) a developer is discouraged from proposing and developing a new hotel due to 100 N. Main's hotel proponent and B) if the city would continue to support the 100 N. Main redevelopment in its current form with a hotel if that meant potentially them not landing a hotel for the Cook. That entire thought is only riding on the potential fact that 100 N. Main has enough hotel rooms to even matter, which I think it would have to be close to 100 rooms.

[Johnny Ryall]

Originally Posted by arkitekte

...how many rooms are proposed in the redevelopment of 100 N. Main...and what brand hotel was mentioned?

A look inside the redevelopment plans for 100 N. Main
Memphis Biz Journal

One Hundred North Main LLC, led by Isaac Thomas, are looking at Hotel Indigo, among other brands, for the 171-room hotel. Hotel Indigo is a brand owned by Atlanta-based InterContinental Hotels Group, which also owns the Holiday Inn brand.

http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/n...-released.html

[VSRJ]

Shelby Farms will soon begin construction of the massive "Heart of the Park" project, which includes expanding Patriot Lake from 55 to 85 acres.





More information: http://www.shelbyfarmspark.org/masterplan

Shelby Farms seeks to minimize disruption to visitors during major construction project

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...disruption-to/

Although the major digging won’t begin until summer, construction fencing is set to go up Monday within the recreational oasis located between East Memphis and Cordova. It will signal the opening phase of an ambitious $52 million effort to transform the core of the heavily used park.

The fencing will seal off a corridor where a new entrance road will be constructed from Farm Road to the area of the visitors center. The new road is needed because the existing entrance off Farm Road will be consumed by what Shelby Farms officials call the “Heart of the Park” project, which includes the expansion of Patriot Lake, construction of a restaurant and retreat center, an events stage, multiuse trails, picnic pavilion and new visitors center, as well as the planting of 5,000 to 6,000 trees.

Those improvements are the latest scheduled to be built under a 2008 master plan for the park that envisioned $70 million-plus worth of projects — several of which have been completed, including an innovative playground and a pedestrian bridge over the Wolf River.

Work on the biggest part of the Heart of the Park project — the expansion of Patriot Lake from 52 to 85 acres — could begin as early as June. With Shelby Farms attracting growing numbers of bicyclists, walkers, joggers and other users, the challenge for park officials is getting the work done with minimal disruption to visitors.

[Wayward Memphian]

I'm a little confused about opposition to a bowling alley type place that's not your typical bowlin place. The example I gave included a music venue, it doesn't have to include a stage or full on music venue. There's plenty of other examples like King's Bowl. It's something I think that would add to the overall entertainment options, especially to permanent residents of downtown. It's right there with Alamo Drafthouse like cinema's that offer more than your typical malco experience. I think Peabody Place was a bit ahead of it's time in terms of having a built in customer base and relying too much on the tourist aspect while allowing the typical pitfalls of malls help it's demise. I can't help but think of the pretty much failed St. Louis Union Station development in the 90s.

As for Mud Island, I've seen proposals that increased overall capacity that makes it a bit more viable at around 9 to 10 thousand, right now it's closer to 7,000 than 5,000 The knock was that it was too small for some acts back in the 80s and most of the 90s. I supposed Memphis is content with just rolling over and letting Southaven take the lions share of outdoor concerts. Although landing the Clapton show shows that it can and will sell out quick with the right booking. It's an absolutely unique setting. I can see a rework that included a club level about half way up with a few suites mixed in as well to help with the revenue aspect. I can see it becoming a venue to be used during the Beale St. Music Fest to help draw larger acts with a limited seating up charge. The Clapton concert is almost a de facto part of that with the timing of the concert on the island.

I was in town this weekend and I saw that Steve Martin and Edie Brickell was playing Snowden Grove. Folks that's a good show, I'm catching it up here at the new AMP Bentonville. Mud Island would have made a much better setting.

[arkitekte]

Originally Posted by Wayward Memphian

I'm a little confused about opposition to a bowling alley type place that's not your typical bowlin place. The example I gave included a music venue, it doesn't have to include a stage or full on music venue. There's plenty of other examples like King's Bowl. It's something I think that would add to the overall entertainment options, especially to permanent residents of downtown. It's right there with Alamo Drafthouse like cinema's that offer more than your typical malco experience. I think Peabody Place was a bit ahead of it's time in terms of having a built in customer base and relying too much on the tourist aspect while allowing the typical pitfalls of malls help it's demise. I can't help but think of the pretty much failed St. Louis Union Station development in the 90s.

The bowling alley idea would probably work just fine as a stand alone idea with maybe a small music venue...something where house bands would play, but nothing quite the size of Minglewood. The biggest problem is the amount of people that would be interested in bowling there. Like you mentioned with Peabody Place, it didn't have the support of actual residents downtown who would visit it often. I'm sure that upon opening it would draw a solid amount of people, but I'm not for sure that say after 6 or 12 months if it would still draw given the amount of people living downtown. I know it sounds somewhat simple, but people wouldn't go bowl there simply because they would have to pay to park.

[kingchef]

i really don't have a suggestion on most of the topics, for feeling they would be seen as too critical. i fear that they would verge on being too critical. the bank drawing i saw last friday, and on other occasions, is basically the same one that i have seen when the project was announced originally. too, mayor wharton seems to have made a turn-about face on several planned projects for downtown. every time a project comes up there seems to be weeks, months, and sometimes years to get projects completed. i understand why citizens find fault w/ government leadership. i wonder if we have enough creative minds in this city to get specific jobs completed, should they be able to pass the vote or political appointment.

so much of the information is secretive or sketchy at best, or usually announced w/ the headline... all that can be said at this time is that the information is all we have at this time..".it comes to mind sometimes that this large city runs off impulsivity, decisions of a few, and very little, which take in the suggestions of its' citizenry. we need leadership in so many areas of government. the question that comes to my mind suggests that memphis has been a tourism town many years, consequently, i fail to understand the projections of putting money in a building that it was going to continue to use. too, does the sheraton have no plans to add to their facility?

[Chris Warren]

Mercedes Benz of Collierville Opens

The Memphis Business Journal:

Collierville's development is on a roll.

Mercedes-Benz dealership owners Trudy Higginbotham-Moody and her Florida-based father Dennis Higginbotham today announced the opening of their newest location at 4651 S. Houson Levee Road at Carriage Crossing.

The 27-bay, 41,000-square-foot dealership, which includes a 16,000-square-foot showroom, is the family's third, according to a release today. The other dealerships are in Jackson, Miss., and Myrtle Beach, S.C.

Kevin Vaughan of Township Development Services and Montgomery Martin Contractors LLC build the facility beginning in July 2013. David Eve of Dedline Design Group was the architect.

The dealership will have a ribbon-cutting ceremony and grand opening celebration later this summer, the release said.

[Chris Warren]

St. Jude to add nine-story parking garage on Memphis campus



Courtesy of The Commercial Appeal

[kingchef]

is the 9 story parking garage counted by the other individuals that have miscounted or misplaced the tops and bottoms of other new construction? e.g. part of the missing parking garage at fedex forum, the entire building of the hilton downtown, the first report that the proton beam tower was to be seven stories, then it was reported to be 9 stories, and finally 14 stories.