PHILADELPHIA | 709 Chestnut Street | 327 FT | 27 FLOORS

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by jsbrook

Seems crazy. That said, I would like to see some condo units on this stretch. I think something like the Laurel, with some condos but mostly rental could work. This stretch is in for a world of change. Public Ledger Building is going luxury residential, and then we've got the Toll Bros one if it can get off the ground. Astoban is converting a small building on this same block to boutique condos as well. Just 4-5 units. That said, I'm not sure Jake's article is accurate in this regard. We'll know soon if this is really all condos.

Yep, not to mention the large number of commercial/retail updates along that same stretch - it’s going to be seriously gorgeous with amazing location. And agreed, i’d be curious to see if that rental/condo calculus changes.

[iheartphilly]

^^^

The super Wawa location in the Public Ledger Bldg has brought all this [proposed] change...LOL. Suppose to be bougie and the largest in the country!

[Londonee]

Originally Posted by iheartphilly

^^^

The super Wawa location in the Public Ledger Bldg has brought all this [proposed] change...LOL. Suppose to be bougie and the largest in the country!

So long as it avoids the issues that are plagueing the Broad and Walnut Wawa. There are a lot of particular clinics in the Market East vicinity that could provide less than desirable patronage - especially for a location that will be so high profile from a tourist perspective.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by Londonee

So long as it avoids the issues that are plagueing the Broad and Walnut Wawa. There are a lot of particular clinics in the Market East vicinity that could provide less than desirable patronage - especially for a location that will be so high profile from a tourist perspective.

I'm not happy about the Public Ledger Wawa and also hope it does not attract the same problems as the Broad & Walnut one, which is completely disgusting.

[mcgrath618]

CDR loved this one, and it has been passed:
https://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/p...%20Reviews.pdf
They suggested implementing more lighting around the parking mechanism to show it off more. All around really cool.

[mcgrath618]

Apparently it's also LEED Gold certified!

[39.95n]

Going before the ZBA on the 7th...

Appeal Grounds:
SPECIAL EXCEPTION/PERMIT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A UNITY OF USE TO CREATE ONE (1) LOT FOR ZONING PURPOSES WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS TO BE RECORDED BY DEED TO BIND CURRENT AND FUTURE OWNERS OF THE CONTIGUOUS THREE (3) PARCELS (707 CHESTNUT STREET, 709-713 CHESTNUT ST AND 715-717 CHESTNUT STREET) TO PRESERVE THE UNITY OF USE AND THE LEGALITY OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT STEMS FROM THE SINGLE ZONING LOT TREATMENT. PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, PROOF OF RECORDATION OF EASEMENTS, AGREEMENTS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS MUST BE SUPPLIED.

FOR THE ERECTION OF AN ATTACHED STRUCTURE ( 327 FT HIGH) WITH ROOF DECK ACCESSED BY A ELEVATOR; MULTI-FAMILY HOUSEHOLD LIVING ( 278 DWELLING UNITS) FROM SECOND FLOOR THROUGH 27TH FLOORS WITH RESIDENTIAL LOBBY, AND NON-ACCESSORY PARKING GARAGE ENTRANCE ( CHESTNUT ST) AND FIVE(5) RESERVOIR SPACES , SHARE TWO(2) LOADING SPACES AND BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AT FIRST FLOOR WITH ACCESSORY PARKING GARAGE ( ABOVE GROUND AUTOMATED VALET-TYPE, MECHANICAL ACCESS PARKING SPACES FOR 135 SPACES INCLUDING WITH SEVEN(7) ELECTRIC PARKING SPACES , FOUR(4) ACCESSIBLE SPACES INCLUDING WITH ONE(1) VAN ACCESSIBLE SPACE AT SECOND FLOOR FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE AT THIRD FLOOR ( 709-13 CHESTNUT ST) ; TWO(2) EXISTING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANTS ( 707 CHESTNUT ST) AT CELLAR AND FROM FIRST FLOOR THRU FOURTH(4th) FLOORS AND EXISTING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT FROM CELLAR THRU FIRST FLOOR AT (715-17 CHESTNUT ST) AND FROM FLOOR FIRST FLOOOR THRU FOURTH FLOORS EXISTING EAT-IN RESTAURAN ( SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT FROM FIRST FLOOR THROUGH FOURTH(4TH ) FLOORS (715-17 CHESTNUT ST) FROM CELLAR THRU FIRST FLOOR AND EXISTING ROOF TOP MECHANICALS AT FLOOR 4TH AND FLOOR 7TH .SIZE AND LOCATION AS SHOWN IN THE APPLICATION

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by 39.95n

Going before the ZBA on the 7th...

Appeal Grounds:
SPECIAL EXCEPTION/PERMIT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A UNITY OF USE TO CREATE ONE (1) LOT FOR ZONING PURPOSES WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS TO BE RECORDED BY DEED TO BIND CURRENT AND FUTURE OWNERS OF THE CONTIGUOUS THREE (3) PARCELS (707 CHESTNUT STREET, 709-713 CHESTNUT ST AND 715-717 CHESTNUT STREET) TO PRESERVE THE UNITY OF USE AND THE LEGALITY OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT STEMS FROM THE SINGLE ZONING LOT TREATMENT. PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, PROOF OF RECORDATION OF EASEMENTS, AGREEMENTS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS MUST BE SUPPLIED.

FOR THE ERECTION OF AN ATTACHED STRUCTURE ( 327 FT HIGH) WITH ROOF DECK ACCESSED BY A ELEVATOR; MULTI-FAMILY HOUSEHOLD LIVING ( 278 DWELLING UNITS) FROM SECOND FLOOR THROUGH 27TH FLOORS WITH RESIDENTIAL LOBBY, AND NON-ACCESSORY PARKING GARAGE ENTRANCE ( CHESTNUT ST) AND FIVE(5) RESERVOIR SPACES , SHARE TWO(2) LOADING SPACES AND BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AT FIRST FLOOR WITH ACCESSORY PARKING GARAGE ( ABOVE GROUND AUTOMATED VALET-TYPE, MECHANICAL ACCESS PARKING SPACES FOR 135 SPACES INCLUDING WITH SEVEN(7) ELECTRIC PARKING SPACES , FOUR(4) ACCESSIBLE SPACES INCLUDING WITH ONE(1) VAN ACCESSIBLE SPACE AT SECOND FLOOR FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE AT THIRD FLOOR ( 709-13 CHESTNUT ST) ; TWO(2) EXISTING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANTS ( 707 CHESTNUT ST) AT CELLAR AND FROM FIRST FLOOR THRU FOURTH(4th) FLOORS AND EXISTING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT FROM CELLAR THRU FIRST FLOOR AT (715-17 CHESTNUT ST) AND FROM FLOOR FIRST FLOOOR THRU FOURTH FLOORS EXISTING EAT-IN RESTAURAN ( SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT FROM FIRST FLOOR THROUGH FOURTH(4TH ) FLOORS (715-17 CHESTNUT ST) FROM CELLAR THRU FIRST FLOOR AND EXISTING ROOF TOP MECHANICALS AT FLOOR 4TH AND FLOOR 7TH .SIZE AND LOCATION AS SHOWN IN THE APPLICATION

So what do we think? They have a chance?

[Redddog]

Originally Posted by 39.95n

Going before the ZBA on the 7th...

Appeal Grounds:
SPECIAL EXCEPTION/PERMIT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A UNITY OF USE TO CREATE ONE (1) LOT FOR ZONING PURPOSES WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND AGREEMENTS TO BE RECORDED BY DEED TO BIND CURRENT AND FUTURE OWNERS OF THE CONTIGUOUS THREE (3) PARCELS (707 CHESTNUT STREET, 709-713 CHESTNUT ST AND 715-717 CHESTNUT STREET) TO PRESERVE THE UNITY OF USE AND THE LEGALITY OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT THAT STEMS FROM THE SINGLE ZONING LOT TREATMENT. PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, PROOF OF RECORDATION OF EASEMENTS, AGREEMENTS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS MUST BE SUPPLIED.

FOR THE ERECTION OF AN ATTACHED STRUCTURE ( 327 FT HIGH) WITH ROOF DECK ACCESSED BY A ELEVATOR; MULTI-FAMILY HOUSEHOLD LIVING ( 278 DWELLING UNITS) FROM SECOND FLOOR THROUGH 27TH FLOORS WITH RESIDENTIAL LOBBY, AND NON-ACCESSORY PARKING GARAGE ENTRANCE ( CHESTNUT ST) AND FIVE(5) RESERVOIR SPACES , SHARE TWO(2) LOADING SPACES AND BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AT FIRST FLOOR WITH ACCESSORY PARKING GARAGE ( ABOVE GROUND AUTOMATED VALET-TYPE, MECHANICAL ACCESS PARKING SPACES FOR 135 SPACES INCLUDING WITH SEVEN(7) ELECTRIC PARKING SPACES , FOUR(4) ACCESSIBLE SPACES INCLUDING WITH ONE(1) VAN ACCESSIBLE SPACE AT SECOND FLOOR FOR A PERSONAL SERVICE AT THIRD FLOOR ( 709-13 CHESTNUT ST) ; TWO(2) EXISTING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANTS ( 707 CHESTNUT ST) AT CELLAR AND FROM FIRST FLOOR THRU FOURTH(4th) FLOORS AND EXISTING SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT FROM CELLAR THRU FIRST FLOOR AT (715-17 CHESTNUT ST) AND FROM FLOOR FIRST FLOOOR THRU FOURTH FLOORS EXISTING EAT-IN RESTAURAN ( SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT FROM FIRST FLOOR THROUGH FOURTH(4TH ) FLOORS (715-17 CHESTNUT ST) FROM CELLAR THRU FIRST FLOOR AND EXISTING ROOF TOP MECHANICALS AT FLOOR 4TH AND FLOOR 7TH .SIZE AND LOCATION AS SHOWN IN THE APPLICATION

So what do we think? They have a chance?

[39.95n]

Unless someone has a real problem with it, this should be a formality. Have not heard of any organized opposition.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

Apparently it's also LEED Gold certified!

you seem very excited by that. Why?

[39.95n]

Originally Posted by 39.95n

Unless someone has a real problem with it, this should be a formality. Have not heard of any organized opposition.

Approved by the ZBA. Let's see if they can actually get this thing going...

[jsbrook]

Is this going to be rentals, condos, or a combo like the Laurel?

[iheartphilly]

^
This is a good address to be in and central to some of the most desirable neighborhoods. I think it will do well if project gets off the ground.

[Aaamazarite]

Construction permit for this got issued yesterday. Let the building begin!!!

[JohnIII]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Construction permit for this got issued yesterday. Let the building begin!!!

Oh wow; that's good news. Seems to be a slow bit of news on anything big happening. I hear a good amount of things but it seems to be moving slower than in the past few months on the skyscraper news. This is good news

[jsbrook]

I still haven't able to determine the type of residences this is supposed to have. Condos, rental apartments, or a combo. Does anyone know?

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by Aaamazarite

Construction permit for this got issued yesterday. Let the building begin!!!

Aaamazarite, you seem to always be in the know. Any updates on the timing or anything else on this one?

[jsbrook]

I am also still unclear why this has been repeatedly reported as a condo development. Page 4 of the CDR proposal states “711 proposes to construct a 27 story building in the parking lot area, for 278 single family dwelling units that will be market rate rentals…”

https://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/p...ge_reduced.pdf

[Aaamazarite]

Originally Posted by jsbrook

I am also still unclear why this has been repeatedly reported as a condo development. Page 4 of the CDR proposal states “711 proposes to construct a 27 story building in the parking lot area, for 278 single family dwelling units that will be market rate rentals…”

https://www.phila.gov/CityPlanning/p...ge_reduced.pdf

There are many people who still don't now what a condo is. I've seen both single family home developments and apartment complexes be referred to as condos on numerous occasions, even by the press etc.

As for the status of this project, still nothing since getting the construction use permit. Still no building permit. A lot has to happen between the two, as you probably know. However the length of time is getting more and more concerning if you compare it to Riverwalk, which got its construction use permit in December 2017 and its building permit exactly two months later.

The site for this project is a lot more complicated so I'll give it another 3 months before worrying about it.