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esquire · #**861** Posted **Dec 21, 2021, 3:01 PM**

^ Thanks for that. As noted in the article, the timing of the completion of the Masonic Temple's renovations was unfortunate, coming just before the pandemic. But that said, I am surprised at how intractable the Masonic Temple's situation has been.

I thought for sure when the NHL came back that would lead to the redevelopment of that building with all of the F&B spending in the immediate area of the arena. But here we are a decade later, and still nothing.

WinCitySparky · #**862** Posted **Dec 21, 2021, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by GreyGarden

Nice little write-up on this project in the Globe today:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/inve...new-leases-on/

The article also contains some details on the Masonic Temple redevelopment. Nothing too interesting, sounds like they're struggling to find a tenant. Unfortunate but also given the type of building it is, it kind of makes sense.

That building has been empty for 10 years.

bomberjet · #**863** Posted **Dec 21, 2021, 4:58 PM**

They've been renovating for 10 years, apparently.

NewIreland · #**864** Posted **Dec 23, 2021, 6:27 PM**

You can still view the facade at street level. Not sure what all the complaining was about.

esquire · #**865** Posted **Dec 23, 2021, 7:08 PM**

^ Yes, it sure beats the alternative. Things reached the point where I didn't think the Pumphouse would ever get renovated.

bomberjet · #**866** Posted **Dec 23, 2021, 8:33 PM**

Looking good.

The cross bracing kills me. On this one and the fall over building on Princess. Just beef up the columns a bit in the lower portion.

drew · #**867** Posted **Dec 23, 2021, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

Looking good.

The cross bracing kills me. On this one and the fall over building on Princess. Just beef up the columns a bit in the lower portion.

Cross bracing is cheaper.

To x-brace or not is ultimately an owner decision.

And at least the stuff on Princess is square tube structural steel, not that turn-buckle-rigid-pre-eng-frame-warehouse crap front and centre at the pumphouse.

WinCitySparky · #**868** Posted **Dec 23, 2021, 10:49 PM**

Yeah it kills the openness of the space underneath

bomberjet · #**869** Posted **Dec 23, 2021, 10:56 PM**

I get the need for the x-brace. My limited schooling in structural at RRC taught me a bit. But it looks like shit haha

In that princess one, it's right out the front windows! I know you probably had a hand in that one and structural needs, etc.

The Pumphouse will soon be covered in orange flagging, paint, or whatever it is because people will walk into it.

drew · #**870** Posted **Dec 24, 2021, 4:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

I get the need for the x-brace. My limited schooling in structural at RRC taught me a bit. But it looks like shit haha

In that princess one, it's right out the front windows! I know you probably had a hand in that one and structural needs, etc.

The Pumphouse will soon be covered in orange flagging, paint, or whatever it is because people will walk into it.

I think the Princess bracing is OK. Its symmetrical and fits in the character of the building and area (industrial).

That building was a relatively unique one, as the stairshafts and elevator core were not concrete or block above grade. This means it relies almost exclusively on X-bracing for stability.

The upsizing in steel to avoid those front wall x-braces was significant, and would have reduced interior space to cover everything over.

And back to the pumphouse that bracing almost appears temporary - but given the Architect involved, I am sure it's on purpose to serve as some sort of "look".