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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 4:28 PM
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There is certainly more urban focused development in Kitchener than ever. Not sure how much is attributable to the LRT.. but there are a lot of big buildings planned there in the 20-30 floor range. one Victoria finished in the fall, that same developer is just starting on their next project, and has another one about to start sales. Then there is that big development northwest of the King street grade separation, and whatever happens with the mobility hub, which now has funding for the public portion of it.
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2017, 4:34 PM
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I wasn't clear. I meant that the city allowed the towers to be as tall as they are because of the soon to come LRT. I'm not say the LRT=Edge Towers but that Edge Towers could've been bashed down a few floors to 35 floors as it's highest, but the city understood that the LRT would be right near rthe site and allowed a greater density. As for the buildings themselves, their a bit....haphazard in terms of design.

I know its different, but the idea that Kitchener would be able to build taller with more density is still a fair ideal. Kitchener's economy is doing great, and the downtown reflects that.
Tech is booming once again. Of course, it's doing great. The impression I got from the posts is that this city of 200,000 is a metro of 400,000 is going to see an explosion of taller 30 storey residential towers and 20 storey office towers is a tad optimistic. There will be a development push to build more and larger developments to bring validity to the LRT but a half dozen or so towers of the herb tower height with maybe one or two landmarks topping 70 metres over the next decade would be massive.
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Metro of 510-520k you mean?
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There are already several "Kitchener's Tallest" proposals and the LRT isn't even up and running yet. I don't think there will be any problem selling units in tall towers along the LRT corridor...
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So by the CEO of CDPQi, the REM is now "Under construction", as all financing is now attached.

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases...628651833.html

The main construction contracts should be given this Summer.
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Old Posted Jun 16, 2017, 4:44 PM
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The tunnel on the crosstown is huge..I had to check and make sure Metrolinx didn't post a Crossrail photo. Lol!!



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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 1:31 AM
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Here's a list.

Under construction
• Kitchener-Waterloo - ION (Grand River Transit) - 16 stations - 19km - 2017
• Toronto - Yonge-Spadina Extension (TTC) - 6 stations - 8.6km - 2017
• Ottawa - Confederation Line (OC Transpo) - 13 stations - 12.5km - 2018
• Edmonton - Valley Line Phase 1 (ETS) - 13 stations - 13km - 2020
• Toronto - Eglinton Crosstown (Metrolinx) - 25 stations - 19km - 2021
• Toronto - SmartTrack/GO RER 10 Year Program (Metrolinx) - 14 stations* - 41km - complete 2026

Pre-construction
• Toronto - Finch West LRT (Metrolinx) - 19 stations - 11km - start 2017 - complete 2021 - RFPs
• Montreal - Réseau électrique métropolitain (CDPQ) - 27 stations - 67km - start 2017 - complete 2021 - RFPs
• Mississauga - Hurontario LRT (Metrolinx) - 22 stations - 20km - start 2018 - complete 2022 - RFPs
• Ottawa - Stage 2 South extension (OC Transpo) - 7 stations - 11km - start ? - complete 2021 - RFQ prep
• Ottawa - Stage 2 East extension (OC Transpo) - 5 stations - 5km - start ? - complete 2022 - RFQ prep
• Ottawa - Stage 2 West extension (OC Transpo) - 11 stations - 15km - start ? - complete 2023 - RFQ prep
• Hamilton LRT (Metrolinx) - 17 stations - 14km - start 2019 - complete 2024 - RFQ prep
• Calgary - Green Line (CT) - 14 stations - 20km - start 2020 - complete 2026 - RFQ prep


Planned
• Vancouver - Millennium Line Broadway Extension - 6 stations - 6km - start 2019 - complete 2025 - Business Case Prep
• Surrey-Newton-Guilford LRT - 11 stations - 10km - start 2020? - complete ? - Business Case Prep
• Toronto - Bloor-Danforth Scarborough Extension (TTC) - 1 station - 7.6km - start 2020 - complete 2026 - ERP prep
• Kitchener-Waterloo - ION Phase 2 (Grand River Transit) - 8 stations - 18.5 km - start 2020? - complete ? - alignment
• Edmonton - Valley Line Phase 2 (ETS) - 14 stations - 14km - start 2020 - complete 2025 - planning
• Edmonton Metro Line NW Blatchford Extension 1 station - 1km - start 2020 - complete 2040 - pre-planning
• Montreal Blue Line Anjou Extension (STM) - 5 stations - 6.1km - start ? - complete ? - planning
• Calgary - Green Line Phase 2 south (CT) - 5 stations - 8.2km - start 2026 - complete ? - planning
• Calgary - Green Line Phase 2 north (CT) - 9 stations - 15.1km - start 2026 - complete ? - planning
• Toronto - Sheppard East LRT (Metrolinx) - 26 stations - 13km - start ? - complete ? - planning
• Toronto - Eglington West LRT Extension (Metrolinx) - 11 stations - 11km - start ? - complete >2031 - planning
• Toronto - Eglington East LRT Extension (Metrolinx) - 18 stations - 11km - start ? - complete ? - planning
• Toronto - Yonge Subway Extension-York (Metrolinx) - 6 stations - 6.8km - start ? - complete >2031 - planning
• Montreal Orange Line Bois-Franc Extension (STM) - 1* station - 3km - start ? - complete ? - pre-planning
• Montreal Yellow Line Chemin de la Savane Extension (STM) - 6 stations - 8.7km - start ? - complete ? - pre-planning
• Toronto - Downtown/Yonge Relief Line - (TTC) - ? - ? start ? - complete >2031 - pre-planning
• Surrey-Langley LRT (Translink) - 8 stations - 16km - start ? - complete ? - planning
• Edmonton Capital Line Clareview-Gorman (ETS) - 1 station - 2.9km - start ? - complete 2040 - pre-planning
• Edmonton Capital Line South LRT-Heritage Valley (ETS) - 5 stations - 7.5km - start ? - complete 2040 - pre-planning
• Edmonton Metro Line NW Extension Phase 2 - 7 stations - 6km - complete 2040 - pre-planning
• Calgary - Red Line South Extension - 2 stations - 4.5km - start ? - complete ? - pre-planning
• Calgary - Blue Line NE Extension - 4 stations - 7.5km - start ? - complete ? - pre-planning
• Calgary - Blue Line SW Extension - 1 station - 1.6km - start ? - complete ? -pre-planning
• Victoria Regional Rapid Transit (BC Transit) - 18 stations - 16km - start ? - complete ? - planning
• Victoria E&N Commuter Rail (BC Transit) - 6 stations - 17km - start ? - complete ? - planning
• Halifax Commuter Rail (Halifax Transit) - 11 stations - 50km - start ? - complete >2031 - pre-planning
• Toronto Waterfront West LRT & Waterfront East LRT (TTC) - ? stations - ? km - start ? - complete ? - pre-planning

Completed
• Edmonton - Metro Line (ETS) - 3 stations - 3.3km - opened September 6, 2015
• Vancouver - Evergreen Line (TransLink) - 6 stations - 11km - opened December 2, 2016
• Toronto - Union Pearson Express (Metrolinx) 4 stations - 23.3km - opened June 6, 2015

* mostly station renovations for GO RER, STM/Orange Line

Sources:
http://www.stage2lrt.ca/
http://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects...expansion.aspx
https://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Projects/index.jsp
https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_pla...line-west.aspx
https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_pla...-projects.aspx
http://rapidtransit.regionofwaterloo...tage-2-ION.asp
http://www.calgary.ca/Transportation...ect=/greenline
http://www.translink.ca/en/Plans-and...-Projects.aspx
https://bctransit.com/victoria/trans...appened-so-far
http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/tr...sland/e-n-rail
http://www.halifax.ca/transit/commuterrail.php

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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 1:32 AM
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11 big projects planned to be tendered in the next 2-3 years. There has got to be concern about contractor/trade shortages in this area among the transit authorities. Is there an opportunity for big international firms, maybe European or Chinese ones entering the Canadian market? I wouldn't want to be one of the last projects going out to tender-they may not be as competitive as the earlier ones.

A further 6/7 projects in the five years after that, and then who knows as there's lots of plans if the funding can be found. Then there's mobility as a service, car sharing, autonomous cars, and electrification changing the industry as well. None of these impacts seems to upset the need for these projects because of geometry (cars, even shared cars, just take up too much space for the amount of people they carry).

Montreal's REM is significant, and could set up Montreal to catch the early part of the next wave as well for the Orange line. Toronto's got a lot of irons in the fire, but it seems really hard to get things built in that city.

Ottawa in ten years appears ready to build almost as much as Calgary, Vancouver, Edmonton, and within 20km of Montreal and Toronto have built in some cases over 60 years. Does BRT work well enough to build demand or do you just jump straight to rail-based transit? I'm not entirely sold even though they appear to provide one example of it working well.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 1:12 PM
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Just saying, there's a list at the first page of this thread. It's less extensive but more official. I'll update it when (I guess) the Finch West LRT will start construction next.
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Montréal will have more than 120km of right-of-way rapid transit.
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Old Posted Jun 18, 2017, 8:05 PM
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Metrolinx is exploring the possibility of using Hydrogen-Electric Trains instead of electric trains that require overhead cables.

RER - Regional Express Rail


How cool is that?

World's First Hydrogen Train Unveiled in Germany


Would save a tonne of money on doing all the overhead cabling and would make sending the service right into Barrie and Kitchener a lot easier.

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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 2:15 PM
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Metrolinx is exploring the possibility of using Hydrogen-Electric Trains instead of electric trains that require overhead cables.

RER - Regional Express Rail


How cool is that?

World's First Hydrogen Train Unveiled in Germany


Would save a tonne of money on doing all the overhead cabling and would make sending the service right into Barrie and Kitchener a lot easier.
Very cool. These trains will cost a lot but probably less expensive than electrifying the whole network with catenaries.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 2:21 PM
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That is absolutely not cool.

Metrolinx should focus on using conventional electric trains and not get sidetracked into an unproven technology.

If the Germans want to trial a handful of hydrogen trainsets on small, rural routes they can go nuts. We are trying to build the transit backbone for a city of millions, so we should use a technology that has been proven to work for decades in every conceivable operating environment
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 2:26 PM
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That is absolutely not cool.

Metrolinx should focus on using conventional electric trains and not get sidetracked into an unproven technology.

If the Germans want to trial a handful of hydrogen trainsets on small, rural routes they can go nuts. We are trying to build the transit backbone for a city of millions, so we should use a technology that has been proven to work for decades in every conceivable operating environment

This. I have a feeling that this won't go very far thankfully. The one area I could see it being potentially useful / worth studying is for the portions of GO beyond what's planned to be electrified with catenaries. I would hope that is closer to what's going on at the staff level...
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2017, 2:38 PM
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I agree with you.

LOL >>> At the same time, I'd hardly call it unproven and it is very much a Canadian technology that we allowed to get away from us. This would be an opportunity to take it back with a Ballard and Bombardier partnership.
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Yeah, you guys are probably right. If Metrolinx is studying it, it is probably for the sections of track they were not planning to electrify.

They can always buy a trainset or two and test it out or even test it in service.
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^ Their experience with the opposition to UP diesels means they are extra in-tune to people complaining about more diesel traffic on infrequently used corridors.


Where next? Cambridge? Peterborough? Uxbridge?

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That map is pretty awesome.
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is the Vancouver m line extension really going to start in 2019? I didn't know it was getting the go ahead
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I would be surprised if it didn't start by 2019.
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