Phoenix Development News (3) - Page 161

Vicelord John · #**3201** Posted **Apr 27, 2012, 2:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by HooverDam

there aren't more than enough of are old brick buildings with unique things in them.

You should go look at that building, I think you'll change your tune.

PHX31 · #**3202** Posted **Apr 27, 2012, 3:35 AM**

I do want to go in the building. I'll try this weekend. Regardless, I'd rather have a historic brick building(s) in any kind of shape (that could likely be rehabbed, if nothing more than the facade) over a lot full of gas pumps. I can't believe this is even a discussion.

bwaynoh · #**3203** Posted **Apr 27, 2012, 7:27 AM**

Board members from RoRo and Evans Churchill were present for the meeting as well as from some surrounding HOA's...not sure what their take is on this yet.

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Originally Posted by scottkag

The Roosevelt Row and Evans Churchill people need to get mobilized on this issue. I'm pretty sure they will not be okay with this. Does anyone have contacts with these organizations so this can be brought to their attention?

bwaynoh · #**3204** Posted **Apr 27, 2012, 9:24 PM**

Downtown Devil article on the Circle K development and potential future retail development at 7th St & Roosevelt

http://vanishingphx.downtowndevil.co...ransformation/

Phxguy · #**3205** Posted **Apr 28, 2012, 5:02 AM**

http://downtownphoenixjournal.com/20...ut-7th-street/
More news on the old Ducrati dealership.

HooverDam · #**3206** Posted **Apr 28, 2012, 5:02 AM**

Also regarding buildings being "too far gone" for historic preservation, remember this building?:

Its being stabilized with hopes to find funds to fully preserve it in the future. If the Knipe, half burnt down and a shell of itself can be saved, most anything can.

PHX31 · #**3207** Posted **Apr 28, 2012, 12:56 PM**

I am planning on trying to determine the history of those 7th/roosevelt buildings... When they were built, what businesses they housed, and possibly track down an original picture of them. If anyone has any resources they could share that might uncover this info (the picture will be the hardest part), it would be much appreciated. I think bringing their history to the attention of the phoenix preservation office and somehow getting their protection would be the best way to save them.

scottkag · #**3208** Posted **May 2, 2012, 4:08 PM**

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/jac...sevelt_row.php

Bodega 420. Sounds like a marijuana dispensary, but apparently a grocery store.

mwadswor · #**3209** Posted **May 2, 2012, 5:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by scottkag

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/jac...sevelt_row.php

Bodega 420. Sounds like a marijuana dispensary, but apparently a grocery store.

Can't it be both?

pbenjamin · #**3210** Posted **May 5, 2012, 5:31 AM**

http://www.edwardjensen.net/downtown...-closing/3260/

Not surprising. I was never all that impressed.

HooverDam · #**3211** Posted **May 6, 2012, 4:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by pbenjamin

http://www.edwardjensen.net/downtown...-closing/3260/

Not surprising. I was never all that impressed.

Not surprising, but still disappointing and a loss for Downtown. The way that place was run just didn't make a lot of sense for the market dynamics in the area. Plus, go to a Public market in Philly, LA, Seattle, etc....they're NOTHING like the PHX Public Market. Of course they're bigger, but they also have personality, they aren't just little boutique grocers.

It baffles me that the PHX Public Market, and the Wed/Sat markets, have zero presence of Native Americans. Don't you think people visiting for Conventions would want to try Fry Bread, see their wares, etc? At Reding Terminal Market in Philly there's a huge Amish presence at the market which is a big part of its charm. The LA Market has a large Mexican and Asian influence which makes it awesome. The PHX Public Market always feels like white yuppies selling over priced stuff to other white yuppies, until they can get beyond that it'll never be a huge success.

bwaynoh · #**3212** Posted **May 6, 2012, 7:59 AM**

Definitely have to disagree with this... nothing about the market ever struck me as yuppie. I shop there several times a week including the outdoor market every Saturday. There has always been a diverse group of people there both customers and vendors. The vendors there are passionate about what they do, are very friendly and great to get to talk with and get to know. The market isn't about attracting tourists with fry bread or Native American trinkets; it's about providing healthy, local food to the surrounding community...empowering the community to make healthy life choices when it comes to nutrition and enabling them to engage directly with the people who produce it (and doesn't carry the expense of going to a place like Whole Foods).

The market has grown into a great community asset...no longer just a place to grab groceries, eat, or grab coffee; it is a place to to meet people, run into people, a place to take people... a place that fostered a greater sense of community...a place that the community has put a lot into. That leads to why I think the greatest reason a lot of people around here are upset is that there was no prior warning or community engagement or plea for help. It's a big loss for the surrounding community and downtown. As a frequent shopper, there was always traffic and so the announcement to shut the doors is pretty surprising.

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Originally Posted by HooverDam

The PHX Public Market always feels like white yuppies selling over priced stuff to other white yuppies, until they can get beyond that it'll never be a huge success.

Vicelord John · #**3213** Posted **May 6, 2012, 1:41 PM**

I've walked over there several times only to find no items I'm looking for and head home with my tail between my legs because I just wasted 30 minutes and now have to get the car out and go to Safeway. Hmmmmm after about 3 times I learned my lesson and just stopped trying. Oh, and that overpriced coffee shop never did it for me either.

To the guy talking about it not being yuppies, you know we're talking about the store not the whole market, right? The article was misleading for sure.

nickw252 · #**3214** Posted **May 6, 2012, 8:45 PM**

Looks complete from the outside

nickw252 · #**3215** Posted **May 6, 2012, 8:48 PM**

The hotel beside the Irish Cultural Center has signs for a liquidation sale this coming week. Maybe they are finally going forward with redoing that building and turning it into a nice boutique hotel.

I also noticed that most of the boards over the windows on the Hotel Monroe are down. Perhaps we'll see work soon?

N830MH · #**3216** Posted **May 7, 2012, 4:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by nickw252

Looks complete from the outside

Where did you taking a picture from? What is nearby the light rail station?

Vicelord John · #**3217** Posted **May 7, 2012, 6:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by N830MH

Where did you taking a picture from? What is nearby the light rail station?

I don't even understand this question.

phxSUNSfan · #**3218** Posted **May 7, 2012, 6:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

I don't even understand this question.

I was a little confused by the question as well but I will give it a try (nickw252, correct me if I am wrong): the pictures were taken on the east side of Central Ave (northbound lanes) north of Portland Street...facing west.

Things near Central/Roosevelt Station:
The Irish Cultural Center (obviously)
The Lexington Hotel
Portland Park
Roosevelt Square Apartments
Portland Place Condominiums
Hance Park
Fair Trade Cafe
Portland's (Restaurant)
Trinity Episcopal Cathedral
Office buildings line the east side of Central near the station, etc.

Vicelord John · #**3219** Posted **May 7, 2012, 8:05 AM**

But why dies it matter what's there? The picture was taken from the side of central ave.

phxSUNSfan · #**3220** Posted **May 7, 2012, 8:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vicelord John

But why dies it matter what's there? The picture was taken from the side of central ave.

Perhaps the person asking is unfamiliar with the area but is interested in visiting...I am still shocked (to a much lesser extent now) when I meet a "long time Phoenix/'Valley'" resident who doesn't really know the city; not being able to locate PAM, for instance.