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Old Posted Apr 8, 2009, 6:05 AM
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And really, there isn't much need to facilitate through travel from one end to the other.
unless your a murder chasing someone

*seen to many movies like that*
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Old Posted Apr 8, 2009, 6:14 AM
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And really, there isn't much need to facilitate through travel from one end to the other.
I believe that there was quite a bit of discussion about this earlier, and the general consensus was that it would allow additional capacity in the way of standing space in the gangway (also note how crowded the ends of the cars are in the current A-B configuration with the three seats facing forwards, etc.
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From one of those SkyTrain Capacity Reports that JLousa linked to some time ago, it sounded as if you can't just buy a C car and insert it into an A-B married pair - but rather, that you need to buy a A-C-B configuration as a married set, and the report recommended that A-C-B configurations be purchased rather than A-B pairs, otherwise TransLink would be stuck with too many 4-car A-B+A-B trains and not enough 5-car A-C-B+A-B trains to maximize capacity (on the 80m platforms).
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In the future, such as a mid-life refit, the car interior seating arrangements can be rearranged for side seating like Hong Kong's trains, thus increasing capacity dramatically.

As for moving between cars, that can happen as well. Those are called C-cars, once Translink starts buying them we can do it as well. Kuala Lumpur, which uses ALRT technology as well, recently bought a bunch of C-cars from Bombardier. Now, they have trains where you can move from car 1 to car 5. Another example perhaps could be Beijing's Airport Express, which uses Bombardier's ALRT as well.
Thanks for telling me about the C-cars. I didn't know that they have those.

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My gut says you can add C cars after as that one system did just that upgraded from A-B to A-C-C-B.
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I think KL bought whole trains that were A-C-C-B, so still not sure if they can be inserted into an existing married pair.
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I'd imagine that it's not "easy" to insert a "C" into an "A-B".

I'm sure it can be done, but it likely won't be something done on the fly... and it won't be cheap.

Likely much cheaper to pay the extra up front and order them in the right configuration from the get go.
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Broadway Station - 10th Avenue Entrance | April 14th

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I don't know if this is part of the plan, but I hope the metal mesh panels on the platform level are replaced with glass. Repainting the metal spaceframe would be good too.

Also, I noticed that skylights have been added to Gateway station. Currently there are just metal mesh panels on the roof but sunlight now streams through to the platform.
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Looks good, I see they decided to protect the trees even though they are located directly in front of the station and should've probably been moved a few metres away. Glass does look good though.
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its amazing how just adding glass to an expo station alone can make it look so much better=P
its part of the reason why i've always like king george
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2009, 7:17 AM
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Wow looking good!

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I don't know if this is part of the plan, but I hope the metal mesh panels on the platform level are replaced with glass. Repainting the metal spaceframe would be good too.

Also, I noticed that skylights have been added to Gateway station. Currently there are just metal mesh panels on the roof but sunlight now streams through to the platform.
That's Phase II for Broadway. And Gateway has had the sunlights for a while - depending on the weather, it's sometimes hard to notice the difference
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What are those big black hoses and that panel at the end of the east bound looks new (white brackets).

Any chance we will see the ugly green/gray triangle tubing banished from all Expo Line stations?
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Any chance we will see the ugly green/gray triangle tubing banished from all Expo Line stations?
Seeing how they support the roof over the platform... they can probably add structural columns (seeing how they want to make the platform spacious and airy I don't think that'll happen) or build new supports from the side ($$$$$)
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What's happening with the Main St. station reno's?
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The green triangular tubing is the only aspect i like of the old stations! To me it makes the stations unique and it adds an interesting industrial feel to them.
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What's happening with the Main St. station reno's?
They have got the funding. I expect they will proceed after the Olympics.
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I don't know if this is part of the plan, but I hope the metal mesh panels on the platform level are replaced with glass. Repainting the metal spaceframe would be good too.
That's Phase II, currently in planning, starting sometime after this phase is finished.
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The green triangular tubing is the only aspect i like of the old stations! To me it makes the stations unique and it adds an interesting industrial feel to them.
I think they should paint those silver =)
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The green triangular tubing is the only aspect i like of the old stations! To me it makes the stations unique and it adds an interesting industrial feel to them.
That external truss system also probably allows fewer columns on the platform than in some of the newer stations.
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