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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 6:00 AM
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Ellroy has his detractors and followers—and few in between, to be certain! '53 is by and large a big glossy picture-book, though, which makes it all the more germane to NLA: ganze noirische crime scene images with which to play "compare via Googlemobile."
Nearly all of Ellroy is unreadable to me but a major exception is the autobiographical "My Dark Places" VERY disturbing yet fascinating....and about as noir as it gets

http://www.amazon.com/My-Dark-Places...my+dark+places

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It's what happened at the time of the 1969 Equitable Plaza that interests me.





above: nowandthen

Both articles say the hotel will be reconfigured and continue operations. Did that actually happen? If so, when did it finally close and get demolished? Just curious. Thanks.
The Pacific Coast Architecture Database (PCAD) says the Chapman Park Hotel was demolished in 1967. Another page at PCAD references an LA Times article from 07/09/1967 - the article is called "Bowing out--demolition work on the Chapman Park Hotel". Maybe someone with an LAT subscription can dig it out.

IMDb.com lists the Chapman Park Hotel as a filming location for a 1966 episode of 'The Fugitive' called 'Death Is the Door Prize'. I haven't seen the episode, but it might be worth checking out as it's only a year before the demolition date quoted on PCAD. The northern end of the block was just a parking lot in 1972, with the Equitable Plaza at the southern end.


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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 11:18 AM
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An interesting detail of the Chapman Park Hotel story...from the Times, Oct 5, 1967



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Photo from and more on Alfredo Ramos Martinez here: http://www.alfredoramosmartinez.com/...hronology.html
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 11:30 AM
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The year started off looking good for the Chapman Park Hotel...from the Times, Jan 9, 1967:



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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 2:36 PM
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The northern end of the block was just a parking lot in 1972, with the Equitable Plaza at the southern end.


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in 2004:

Paramount


It looks like it stayed a parking lot until the current building went up circa 2005-6. So actually the Chapman Park Hotel had a pretty good run, all things considered. 42 years is longer than the parking lot that replaced it got.

2014:

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 3:07 PM
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IMDb.com lists the Chapman Park Hotel as a filming location for a 1966 episode of 'The Fugitive' called 'Death Is the Door Prize'. I haven't seen the episode, but it might be worth checking out as it's only a year before the demolition date quoted on PCAD. The northern end of the block was just a parking lot in 1972, with the Equitable Plaza at the southern end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4



https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


Directly behind the 'Secret Harbor'(?) awning is the Wilshire Brown Derby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


The 'fugitive' first views the Chapman Park Hotel from a bus window.



Here is a nice view of the front gate on Wilshire Blvd.



..just inside the gate. (note the sign for the west bungalows)






..a side view of one of the bungalows.



'mystery' building in the distance.



..looking toward the main building, with bungalows lined up on both sides.



..a brief glimpse of the rooftop sign.



..a side gate on Alexandria Ave. (that's the Gaylord in the distance)







https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4


sans title



..two views of the Chapman Park hotel pool.




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'mystery' building

At one point in the film, a building in the same general vicinity is visited.













..in this view you get a quick glimpse of an ornate canopy over the entrance. (upper right corner)


You can view the entire episode here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 4:12 PM
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Great screengrabs, e_r. I didn't expect the Chapman Park Hotel to feature so prominently.

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'mystery' building in the distance.
The picture below is from post #7101. A photo of a 1939 fire at the Chateau La Martine appears in e_r's post #21141.

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Chateau La Martine at 627 S. Normandie...

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 5:55 PM
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Chapman Park Hotel

Great coverage e_r. I'm glad it was so nicely documented. Looking at your screenshots one really feels like one's visited the grounds

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(more pix at the link)

The pool area, next to the main building, was to have new bungalows built for the 'modernized' version of the Chapman Park Hotel.

P.S.

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You can view the entire episode here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=141&v=-qxC7j0YGP4

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Thanks, that was fun.

Wilshire signage:

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The place looked great. Hard to believe it was rubble a short time later.

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 7:30 PM
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I've just found this aerial view from 1968 which shows the Equitable Plaza at about eight floors high. The Chateau La Martine is roughly in the middle on the left.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

It looks like the two-story building on the 6th Street side of the block survived slightly longer than the main Chapman Park Hotel building and bungalows. I'm pretty sure this is the building seen in e_r's picture below. The 3506 address on Ed's Tailoring would be right for this location. There seem to be plenty of pictures available showing the north side of the 3500 block of 6th Street (and deservedly so), but I'm finding views of the south side elusive.

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'mystery' building

At one point in the film, a building in the same general vicinity is visited.

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 7:37 PM
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Chapman Park Hotel and Buildings

LAPL has a couple of 1974 views showing the parking (somewhat) within the footprint of the Chapman Park Hotel's main building:

The Chapman Park Studio Building is across W 6th:

lapl

The 1929 Chapman Park Market Building diagonally across the intersection of W 6th and Alexandra from the former site of the Chapman Park Hotel. The DuBarry, at 3471 W 5th, is in the distance:

lapl

I wish I could find a demo photo.

The 1929 DuBarry is by S. Charles Lee:


With a great neon sign:


last two pix: hereforadventure

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 7:46 PM
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[QUOTE=tovangar2;6991539]Great coverage e_r. I'm glad it was so nicely documented. Looking at your screenshots one really feels like one's visited the grounds

The landscape here is by Kathrerine Bashford and Fred Barlow, Jr. Too bad it's gone, AND the wonderful Ramos Martinez mural. Bashford and Barlow worked on another project that had a Martinez mural, the Davidson Residence in Palm Springs, known as the "Ship of the Desert." The architects were Erle Webster and Adrian Wilson, with interiors by Honor Easton (she got an AIA Award for them), mural by Martinez, color consulting by Millard Sheets.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 7:50 PM
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The landscape here is by Kathrerine Bashford and Fred Barlow, Jr.
Thank you for that info. I was really admiring the lush, mature landscaping in the ep. A beautiful environment.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 8:14 PM
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[QUOTE=tovangar2;6986680]Thank you Wig-Wag and Ed Workman, that's exactly what I wanted to know.


modelingthesp

Good account of the 1959 Lark-on-Lark collision here

Just to "clarify" directions, the point of collision is the Railroad West switch of Serrano. The locomotive is from the northbound Lark #75. It is headed just about compass due south, and had it stopped properly at the absolute signal, it would then proceed around the point of the mountain [ thru a tunnel, bypassed within 3-4 years] and regain compass north to continue on its SP Westbound journey. Got it? This will be on the midterm
Thanks for the newspaper articles
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 8:19 PM
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The Larks, still bravely singing, fly

LOL, I really am taking notes! I love this stuff.


slo tribune

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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 8:27 PM
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mystery location.


old file / possibly ebay

I believe the sign on the large building at left says Mastin or Mastix Drugs.

It appears there are cars parked on the tracks...?
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Here's an enlarged detail of the sign.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 8:35 PM
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mystery location.

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old file / possibly ebay

I believe the sign on the large building at left says Mastin or Mastix Drugs.

It appears there are cars parked on the tracks...?
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Here's a detail of the sign.
I get Mastin for sure.

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Thanks to Chapman Park contributors. (Always wanted to attend a Hi Fi Show there!)



For more perspective: Chapman Park, deja vu.


http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/37/chapman21125.jpg

See: http://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6522642&postcount=20666


http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA1MlgxNj...SxwFe/$_57.JPG
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 8:53 PM
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Since we're revisiting the Chapman I thought I'd repost this. (the color postcard gives you an overall view of the layout)



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The Chapman Park Hotel and Bungalows.


ebay




the lush grounds.

calisphere



Entrance gate.

calisphere



I love the Zephyr Room!

calisphere




calisphere

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[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;6991792]mystery location.


old file / possibly ebay

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It appears there are cars parked on the tracks...?

Follow the overhead wires carefully. The wire over the near- apparently rusty- track veers to the pole on the other side of the street, and the bracket arm is only over the far track. This is the end of the line. Thus check your LARy-LATL map for the end [s] of the S route. You may need an assortment of years to see if the S line had been cut back
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2015, 8:58 PM
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A great ad from the Times of Jan 3, 1928, reminded me of this shot from Chuckaluck's post last year:



http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21939
That icecream factory became a Foremost plant. The present day pix remind me that I have not been in that area for a coupla decades, so I don't know when it was razed
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