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Old Posted Oct 4, 2017, 6:19 PM
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Ideal is probably the config that is used on the south (Beech to Carling) portion of the OTrain MUP where there is a two way cycle track, half curb, and then a sidewalk. This greatly reduces conflicts between uses and allows for Cross-Rides at the Carling without the HTA driven goofy-ness of not being able to bike in a crosswalk that plagues all the crossings on the Albert and Scott MUPs.
I'd argue it would probably be an overkill for that stretch. There won't be much foot traffic along the farm. And of course there will still be sidewalks on each side to the West of Merivale.
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2017, 12:43 PM
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I'd argue it would probably be an overkill for that stretch. There won't be much foot traffic along the farm. And of course there will still be sidewalks on each side to the West of Merivale.
Probably is, but that's the only way the City will allow an intersection without the pointless 'Cyclists Dismount' signs.
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2017, 4:42 PM
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Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: October 3, 2017 | Last Updated: October 3, 2017 5:30 PM EDT[/B]

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Raising the bike lanes, narrowing the vehicle lanes and redesigning intersections will be considered when the section of Laurier Avenue needs to be reconstructed, the city says.

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Please no, I hope they never raise the Laurier lanes up to sidewalk level. That's just asking for those lanes to fill up with what should NOT be in bike lanes (pedestrians, motorized wheelchairs, etc).

Case in point: Laurier Ave. in Gatineau now has a raised bike lane eastbound in front of Jacques Cartier Park. I made three trips in the past month along there and each time all the peds. were just spread out right across the whole thing. And many of them acted like you were being the jerk in riding your bike along their big wide sidewalk.
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2017, 7:34 PM
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Raised bike lanes are common in Europe. Ottawans need to be educated on this. Cars are much less likely to enter a bike lane if it is at sidewalk level than just a painted lane.
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2017, 7:55 PM
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But a biggie: for ALL, peds and cyclists and motorists, we need (attention Councillor Useless Fleury) PROPER signage, paint, lines, and calming barriers. EX: Beechwood - not painted, no signs, no indicators of any kind (the different textures of sidewalk and cyclepath are an adjunct, not a be-all). The motorist left from eastbound Beechwood to northbound Springfield is a disaster (cars wishing to continue eastbound are cutting into the right hand straight through lane in dangerous abrupt cuts). The constant up-and-down of the cyclepath is a disaster (cyclists are getting confused whether to be on the 'sidewalk' or the 'road' - and they really ARE trying to do right). and Pedestrians in front of the New Edinburgh Residence and shops are confused as to how they are to wait for, and then get to, their buses. Anotherwords - a total and unmitigated clusterf#<k. Like the line painting job on the road just to the east of this block last winter which TOTALLY faded right OUT.
People are going to die here (and if not, only by the grace of not-so-common sense and major good luck) - and THEN maybe he'll get it half-assed right.

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Old Posted Oct 13, 2017, 5:19 PM
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High-tech warning lights added to O'Connor bike lane
Motion-activated LED lights a warning to drivers at intersection where cyclist was struck

By Susan Burgess, CBC News Posted: Oct 12, 2017 4:05 PM ET Last Updated: Oct 12, 2017 5:40 PM ET




A system of cameras, motion detectors and LED lights has been installed at the intersection of O'Connor and Waverley streets to protect cyclists.

As a cyclist approaches the intersection from either direction, cameras will detect his or her presence and relay the information to a computer that triggers the flashing of nine LED lights located on either side of the intersection. The lights are mounted on flexible poles between the bicycle lane and the roadway.

The idea is to give drivers better warning of approaching cyclists, if they are planning a left turn through the bikeway from O'Connor or crossing the intersection from the west.

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"Unfortunately at times people are on auto-pilot when they go somewhere, and they want to go from A to B and they don't see 100 per cent of what's going on around them," said Sgt. Mark Gatien, one of the officers in charge of the traffic unit at the Ottawa Police Service.

"When you're turning across the path of a bike lane, we must have the drivers look. And this brings their attention to that."

Because the cameras detect both speed and body heat, the lights are not activated by passing cars or pedestrians, though the lights are configured to flash in response to people approaching on skateboards or in motorized wheelchairs.

The system is a project of Safer Roads Ottawa and the Ottawa police, with technology developed by Stittsville startup SmartCone Technologies. It will be in place for about a month, during which time Safer Roads Ottawa will also collect and analyze video data to figure out its effect on safety in that intersection.

A cyclist was struck there by a left-turning vehicle in October 2016, just hours after city councillors and the mayor officially opened the new bikeway.

The man was taken to hospital in stable condition with injuries to his shoulder and ribs. About two weeks later another cyclist was struck there by a left-turning van, in an incident captured by a fellow rider's helmet-mounted camera.

Another cyclist, Gary King, was hit in November 2016 while using the bikeway a little further north, near Somerset Street.

King called the new light system a "positive effort" but had questions about how well it would work in practice.

"Will drivers come to rely on it rather than taking a proper look?" King asked in an e-mail.

King also suggested that the alert system is really a band-aid solution to the bigger problem of the bikeway's design, a two-way lane on the left side of the road.

"Instead of doing the right thing, the city went with the option that would least inconvenience drivers and that is just simply the wrong approach," he said. "The nature of driver habits on O'Connor warrants going back to the drawing board to get this right."

Matthew Gervan, a lawyer who works nearby on Waverley Street, said he's had many near misses himself in that intersection, as a driver

"At night it's even more dangerous because there's a lot of bikes that don't have any lights on at all," he said. "It's kind of a driver's nightmare."

The new lights are unlikely to make a difference, he said, especially with no signage in place to explain why they're flashing.

Cyclist Gillian Montoya, a regular user of the O'Connor bike lane, was more positive.

"I was honestly just in a situation where I had a car that was turning left and they didn't see me, so I think it is a lot of responsibilty on the biker to be aware of the cars that are looking to turn," she said. "But I think it is a good idea to have in place here. Because raising your arm isn't always seen in the dark."

Daniel Boyer, who uses the bike lane with his motorized wheelchair, also welcomed the new safety measure.

"I think they should do this (in) every intersection," he said. "At least it would give the cars a heads up."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa...lane-1.4351516
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 2:56 PM
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Was biking north on O'Connor last week and noticed them, thought it was weird that the lights were on all the time. It wasn't until I was going home that night that I noticed they didn't activate until I was closer to them. Really cool idea, didn't know these existed
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 3:42 PM
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Really cool idea, didn't know these existed
As the following Stittsville Central article indicates, it is an invention by Stittsville’s SmartCone Technologies.

STITTSVILLE COMPANY’S INVENTION DEPLOYED IN DOWNTOWN BIKE SAFETY PILOT
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2017, 6:43 PM
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Noticed this yesterday as well. I find them to be very effective. Great addition to the area.
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2017, 3:17 PM
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From http://rileybrockington.ca/ottawa-cy...ic-open-house/

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Project P1-19 is listed in the 2013 Ottawa Cycling Plan as segregated cycling facilities in the Heron Road corridor between Data Centre Road and Alta Vista Drive, in support of a Cross-town Bikeway.

The City successfully applied for assistance from the Public Transit Infrastructure Fund (PTIF) to undertake the design of the facilities with 50% dollars coming from the federal government. This current project is identified as PTIF-41 and will take us to the detailed design stage. Design completion deadline is March 31/18 under PTIF requirements.

Funding to construct the facilities has not yet been identified/committed.

The city is planning a Public Open House on the functional design as follows:
Monday November 27/17
6:30pm – 8:30pm
Jim Durrell Rec Centre – Elwood Hall
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Old Posted Oct 26, 2017, 3:41 PM
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2017, 12:17 PM
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Thank god. The small section of the Heron that they built a cycle track on this summer is so pointless
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2017, 2:22 PM
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The Alliance for Biking and Walking has ranked American cities based on the percentage of people who walk or ride bikes to work. In order, they are:
Boston, Washington, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Ore., New York, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, Chicago and Baltimore.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/b...mpetition.html
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Old Posted Nov 20, 2017, 11:14 PM
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City website for the Heron Road cycle tracks is up....

https://ottawa.ca/en/city-hall/publi...l-design-study
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2017, 8:43 PM
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http://documents.ottawa.ca/sites/doc...rollmap_en.pdf

Roll Plan is up for Heron Road. I have a few issues with the plan, but overall I have to commend the City for putting up the roll plan before the Open House.

Also, the roll plan absolutely confirms the City is proposing to grade separate the Ellwood Diamond
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 9:19 PM
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Would be cool to eventually have a ped/bike bridge across the Rideau River in the vicinity of Data Centre to Leonard Avenue that connects with all this. Add another bridge over the canal at the north end of Leonard and somehow link it with the Craig/Percy Street route and you get a great north-south axis straight into downtown without having to deal with heavy traffic.

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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 9:36 PM
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Would be cool to eventually have a ped/bike bridge across the Rideau River in the vicinity of Data Centre to Leonard Avenue that connects with all this. Add another bridge over the canal at the north end of Leonard and somehow link it with the Craig/Percy Street route and you get a great north-south axis straight into downtown without having to deal with heavy traffic.

Yes, something like that will be a great improvement over crossing the intimidating Dunbar and Billings Bridges and likewise across the corresponding bridges across the Rideau canal.
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Old Posted Nov 28, 2017, 9:47 PM
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Would be cool to eventually have a ped/bike bridge across the Rideau River in the vicinity of Data Centre to Leonard Avenue that connects with all this. Add another bridge over the canal at the north end of Leonard and somehow link it with the Craig/Percy Street route and you get a great north-south axis straight into downtown without having to deal with heavy traffic.
That would be awesome, but your dotted green line would be o so complicated to negotiate, and the grades on the south side of Broadway would require switch backs. Probably easier just to use Torrington Place. Who knows
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