HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > Proposals

80 South Street in the SkyscraperPage Database

Building Data Page   • New York Skyscraper Diagram

Map Location
New York Projects & Construction Forum

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #581  
Old Posted Apr 16, 2019, 3:35 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 40,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky88 View Post
Well I think that tower is 1,700 ft tall.
The tower in that rendering may very well be.
__________________
NEW YORK. World's capital.

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #582  
Old Posted Apr 16, 2019, 5:53 PM
manchester united manchester united is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 404
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYguy View Post
The tower in that rendering may very well be.
Will be the official design of this tower one of two designs in the photos?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #583  
Old Posted Apr 17, 2019, 4:17 AM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 40,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by manchester united View Post
Will be the official design of this tower one of two designs in the photos?
Your guess is as good as mine. We still don't even know who controls the site.
__________________
NEW YORK. World's capital.

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #584  
Old Posted Apr 18, 2019, 4:20 AM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 40,649
We may or may not get to see SHoP's design for this tower, but this is the upper level of the pier they worked on...


https://www.instagram.com/p/BwWuSiEjOMV/

__________________
NEW YORK. World's capital.

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #585  
Old Posted Apr 19, 2019, 6:44 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 40,649
I guess now is as good a time as any for NIMBYs to freak out...



https://tribecacitizen.com/2019/04/1...-south-street/

In the News: Giant (I mean giant) tower for South Street?

April 19, 2019


Quote:
New York YIMBY reports that a 1,500-foot tower is envisioned by the Chinese company that owns 80 South Street. The rumblings about a super tall tower at that site have been going on for more than a decade, as the site changed hands several times and plans were drawn and then ditched. (Curbed has a good overview of the history of the site.)

The drawings were done by a Shanghai group that does architectural “visualization,” so not really architectural drawings, but enough to give you the idea of how gross it would be.


https://www.ebroadsheet.com/towering-concerns/

Towering Concerns

APRIL 19, 2019
BY MATTHEW FENTON


Quote:
Shortly after purchasing the site and assembling air rights, Howard Hughes began seeking a buyer for 80 South Street. Late in 2015, it reached a tentative agreement with China Oceanwide, at a price of $390 million. That sale was completed in early 2016. Records filed with the City by China Oceanwide indicate that the new owner planned at the time to erect a tower of more than 110 stories, that would be slightly more than 1,400 feet tall.

In a 2016 meeting of Community Board 1 (CB1), vice chair Paul Hovitz (who also co-chairs the Board’s Youth and Education Committee), noted that with the building planned for 80 South Street, “we’re looking at a 1,300 to 1,500 foot tower.” He added, “that building will have more than 500 apartments, and that will bring enough children in it to fill our new school all by itself.” (This was a reference to plans announced earlier in 2016, to create a new, public elementary school on Greenwich Street, in the Financial District, which will have 476 seats.)

Mr. Hovitz then asked City Comptroller Scott Stringer, who was attending the CB1 meeting as a guest speaker, “when will the City start forcing developers to kick into a school fund so that before they get a building permit, we can guarantee school seats for all of these people coming into the fastest growing residential neighborhood in New York City?”

Comptroller Stringer responded to Mr. Hovtiz, “I know how much you care about rational, responsible development. We have planned backwards as a City. We spend so much time thinking about tall buildings that we don’t think about how to build communities any more. We don’t think about how we build transportation infrastructure. We don’t think about the school population.”
__________________
NEW YORK. World's capital.

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #586  
Old Posted Apr 23, 2019, 3:36 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 40,649
__________________
NEW YORK. World's capital.

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #587  
Old Posted May 4, 2019, 3:28 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is offline
N=R∗×fp×ne×fl×fi×f c× L
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 28,016
Quote:
Comptroller Stringer responded to Mr. Hovtiz, “I know how much you care about rational, responsible development. We have planned backwards as a City. We spend so much time thinking about tall buildings that we don’t think about how to build communities any more. We don’t think about how we build transportation infrastructure. We don’t think about the school population.”
I think if they give tax breaks towards developers, they would be more willing to go with it and add things like schools or public improvements. Reason some resist is just because of how damn expensive it is to build along with the taxes and other bs adding to the soft and hard costs.

I think with 80 South, its a tower for the next cycle. 2022/2023 is my guess, along with 80 Flatbush.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #588  
Old Posted Jun 8, 2019, 1:37 AM
JMKeynes's Avatar
JMKeynes JMKeynes is offline
In the long run...
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: SW3
Posts: 1,191
__________________
"Men will still say, 'This was their finest hour.'"
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #589  
Old Posted Jun 8, 2019, 6:10 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 40,649
Quote:
Originally Posted by JMKeynes View Post

Quote:
The company earlier this year hired Cushman & Wakefield to sell the site with initial pricing talk of nearly $300 million, according to Commercial Observer. A source familiar with the property said the sales process is still ongoing.

It’s possible that China Oceanwide put debt on the property as a way to free up some cash through the proceeds of the loan.

Will be interesting to see which bidder ultimately ends up with the site.
__________________
NEW YORK. World's capital.

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #590  
Old Posted Jun 8, 2019, 11:26 PM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is offline
N=R∗×fp×ne×fl×fi×f c× L
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 28,016
Hopefully its Extell.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #591  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2019, 3:40 AM
Zapatan's Avatar
Zapatan Zapatan is offline
Life enthusiast
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Barcelona, NYC, California
Posts: 3,938
Quote:
Originally Posted by chris08876 View Post
Hopefully its Extell.
Yea me too, they don't f*ck around
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #592  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2019, 4:32 AM
chris08876's Avatar
chris08876 chris08876 is offline
N=R∗×fp×ne×fl×fi×f c× L
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey - Somerset County
Posts: 28,016
This site is prime for NY's first 600m tower. Even if we have to wait, this could be NY's Chicago Spire moment (let's hope it actually happens though).

I hope our 1st mega tall rises downtown. Just for pure aesthetic reasons.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #593  
Old Posted Jun 9, 2019, 5:44 AM
Skyy's Avatar
Skyy Skyy is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 69
^^Would be a great anchor for the city!
Reply With Quote
     
     
End
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > Proposals
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 6:45 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.