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Old Posted Jun 13, 2018, 10:01 PM
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The main campus has overhead walkways and I can't imagine being without them. Underground would mean sump pits, constantly running pumps and enourmous bills when it started to leak. Overhead is ideal.

Going outside is fine too, but tell that to the guys that push the carts of printer paper around.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2018, 10:15 PM
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I don't think the walkway is that bad but I can't support it simply because it seems so unnecessary. It's a solution for a problem that doesn't exist. Like just walk across the damn street. What is it about Winnipeg that we can't fathom the idea that people would just walk across a street at ground level?
The cold is absolutely a problem that exists.
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Exactly. Aside from the original campus, U of W has buildings scattered all over the West End that aren't connected (and much further apart than these two) and you don't hear people complaining about it there. How hard is it to put your jacket on – most people would have it with them anyway.
I think you guys are missing the point... this is how Wpg used to think apartments... don't do the unnecessary. One of the mindsets that's holding us back.

Students, residents, tenants, end users have evolved. The story is now "what have you done for me lately?" Connectivity is one of the foremost amenities desired by end users of real estate. It's a key component of "location, location, location".

You don't get people into your building, you don't curate great atmosphere by telling the customers and surrounding area that they don't need something, unless it's too cost-prohibitive.

We also need to use foresight here... it's vital to create urban environments that non-Winnipeggers, whether new immigrants or new companies can enjoy. Little things like these walkways go a long way towards not attracting, but securing interest.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2018, 10:39 PM
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Notre Dame Campus is vast, sparse, and more spread out and extremely windy (like U of M), much more than Exchange District Campus. U of W is fairly spread out and almost nothing is connected – it's a vibrant campus area. This is literally crossing essentially a residential street. If anything, city should raise the road between these two buildings like at the airport, or what's happening at TNS. Make it a more inviting area, shared-use road and safe crossing.

Also Wolf, there's a big difference between doing the bare minimum or eliminating extra wants, and not doing things that are fully unnecessary, out of character for environment, and don't benefit most people. If there was an existing skywalk network in the Exchange, it'd make sense, but this is just not worth the side effects.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2018, 1:32 AM
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Notre Dame Campus is vast, sparse, and more spread out and extremely windy (like U of M), much more than Exchange District Campus. U of W is fairly spread out and almost nothing is connected – it's a vibrant campus area. This is literally crossing essentially a residential street. If anything, city should raise the road between these two buildings like at the airport, or what's happening at TNS. Make it a more inviting area, shared-use road and safe crossing.

Also Wolf, there's a big difference between doing the bare minimum or eliminating extra wants, and not doing things that are fully unnecessary, out of character for environment, and don't benefit most people. If there was an existing skywalk network in the Exchange, it'd make sense, but this is just not worth the side effects.
The plan is to close the street to cars between the two buildings.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2018, 5:52 AM
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The plan is to close the street to cars between the two buildings.
Love it. Even more reason against the sidewalk, won't have to wait to safely cross.

That is where the accessible loading is now though – only other real options would be to move the bus stop on William and use that as loading, or either move the bus stop on Princess and/or reconfigure Princess. Right now there's no stopping for 80% of the block on the right lane of Princess, essentially making one long right turn lane to William. No reason that block needs 3 "through" lanes and a left parking lane.
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Old Posted Jun 14, 2018, 1:49 PM
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The cold is absolutely a problem that exists.


I think you guys are missing the point... this is how Wpg used to think apartments... don't do the unnecessary. One of the mindsets that's holding us back.

Students, residents, tenants, end users have evolved. The story is now "what have you done for me lately?" Connectivity is one of the foremost amenities desired by end users of real estate. It's a key component of "location, location, location".

You don't get people into your building, you don't curate great atmosphere by telling the customers and surrounding area that they don't need something, unless it's too cost-prohibitive.

We also need to use foresight here... it's vital to create urban environments that non-Winnipeggers, whether new immigrants or new companies can enjoy. Little things like these walkways go a long way towards not attracting, but securing interest.
So students are going to say "you know I would enroll at RRC but I might end up having class at that building without the walkway and then I could have to go outside for like 20 seconds. Maybe I'll just go to SAIT instead"?? There's no attached parkade or bus shelter so how are these people getting to and from the building if they're too delicate to be outside for 20 seconds? The fact that they're closing the street and building the walkway makes it extra ridiculous.
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