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Old Posted Mar 13, 2008, 12:36 AM
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It only makes sense to proceed with these towers... and with ALL towers planned in Manhattan, as a matter of fact. A recession will only last about a year... by the time any major skyscraper is finished, the USA will be in a recovery. Short term thinking won't help anyone.
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Physical Work on WTC Rebuilding Ramps Up
March 12, 2008
By: Amanda Marsh, Associate Editor

The $20 billion World Trade Center rebuilding is well on its way, as physical work on the site ramps up and the ball is passed to the design and construction industry, site executives announced at the New York Building Congress Luncheon Forum, held today at the Ritz-Carlton in Battery Park, Manhattan.

"We have accomplished a great deal since September 11, 2001, but more still has to be done," said Richard Anderson, president of the Building Congress, who opened up the discussion.

The World Trade Center site has arrived at a pivotal and exciting moment in the rebuilding effort, as the project moves from the mostly design phase to the construction phase, pointed out Larry Silverstein, president & CEO of Silverstein Properties. Over the past year and a half, 120 architects, designers, engineers and consultants have been working in the World Trade Center Design Studio, which is now being renamed the World Trade Construction Center. "There has not been this much going on at the site since the clean-up concluded close to six years ago," he said.

The site is beginning foundation work for Towers 3 and 4 at 175 and 150 Greenwich St., and will be constructed by Tishman Construction, which is also building the Freedom Tower, the Goldman Sachs towers and 99 Church St.

The 1,147-foot Tower 3, designed by Richard Rogers, will contain 2.5 million square feet of office space 150,000 square feet of retail, a 60-foot-tall lobby and direct access to mass transit. Tower 4, designed by Fumihiko Maki, will contain 2.3 million rentable square feet of office space, anchored by the 600,000-square-foot Port Authority lease, and 140,000 square feet of retail space. And Turner Construction will build Tower 2, designed by Norman Foster. The 1,278-foot-tall building will contain 2.8 million square feet of space, which includes office and retail.

In the past year alone, the developers have moved over 320,000 cubic yards of rock and dirt off the site, as well as 20,000 cubic yards of concrete, added Anthony Shorris, the Port Authority's executive director. And over $2 billion in contract bids have been awarded.

The buildings are expected to reach street level approximately one year after the start of construction, with Towers 3 and 4 topping out in mid-2010 and Tower 2 following in 2011. "Can you count on the schedule? You bet," Silverstein said, noting that disputes over insurance coverage have been settled, breaking a logjam. The insurance proceeds, as well as the $2.6 billion of Liberty Bonds assigned to the project, will assure there will be enough money to get the projects finished, he asserted.

All the buildings will contain over half a million square feet of destination retail, big box stores, little box stores, restaurants and bars, and will be developed by a joint venture of the Port Authority and Westfield America. And all buildings will be connected to the PATH system and New York City Subway system, as well as surround the centerpiece memorial.

The developers were asked how this morning's resignation of New York governor Eliot Spitzer, who will be succeeded by lieutenant governor David Paterson effective Monday, would affect the project. "All agreements have been signed, everything has been negotiated, and it is time to get on with it," Shorris said. "(All I can say to Patterson is) Godspeed, and let him join the process." Silverstein added that whomever is governor would realize the implications of the site on the city, the state and the overall region.

The developers also noted that fluctuations in construction prices, which have affected projects such as the Metropolitan Transportation Authority's Fulton Street Transit Center, have moderated, and will not affect the elements of the World Trade Center project.
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Physical Work on WTC Rebuilding Ramps Up
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By: Amanda Marsh, Associate Editor

The 1,147-foot Tower 3, designed by Richard Rogers, will contain 2.5 million square feet of office space 150,000 square feet of retail, a 60-foot-tall lobby and direct access to mass transit. Tower 4, designed by Fumihiko Maki, will contain 2.3 million rentable square feet of office space, anchored by the 600,000-square-foot Port Authority lease, and 140,000 square feet of retail space. And Turner Construction will build Tower 2, designed by Norman Foster. The 1,278-foot-tall building will contain 2.8 million square feet of space, which includes office and retail.

The buildings are expected to reach street level approximately one year after the start of construction, with Towers 3 and 4 topping out in mid-2010 and Tower 2 following in 2011. "Can you count on the schedule? You bet," Silverstein said,
I've been noticing lately that the roof height of Tower 2 has jumped from 1,270 ft to 1,278 ft.

In a couple of years, 2010, towers 3 and 4 will be topped out. So basically a couple of years before we get the "completed" effect on the skyline. Not bad at all.
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I've been noticing lately that the roof height of Tower 2 has jumped from 1,270 ft to 1,278 ft.
Great news, another height increase.
1254' -> 1270' -> 1278'
First time they increased the height by 16', now by 8', do u see a pattern there ? Next height increase will be by 4', then 2' then 1', then 0.5' ... Ultimately it'll end up being close to 1286'. Go ahead, call me a geek, but I might end up being right. (j/k)
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Great news, another height increase.
1254' -> 1270' -> 1278'
First time they increased the height by 16', now by 8', do u see a pattern there ? Next height increase will be by 4', then 2' then 1', then 0.5' ... Ultimately it'll end up being close to 1286'. Go ahead, call me a geek, but I might end up being right. (j/k)

I hadn't noticed it, but it was changed here as well: WTC.com

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Tower 2, also known by its street address, 200 Greenwich Street, features a sparkling glazed crystalline form and diamond-shaped summit that will create a bold addition to the New York skyline. Designed by Foster and Partners, the 79-story tower will be the second-tallest skyscraper on the World Trade Center (WTC) site and in New York City. Located east of the proposed performing arts center and north of the WTC Transportation Hub, Tower 2 will rise to 1,278 feet and be topped by an 80-foot antenna.

The tower will contain five levels of retail; 60 office floors, including a sky lobby, that total 2.8 million rentable square feet; and a 67-foot-high office lobby. It will have a total of eight entrances: five entrances from street level, one below-grade entrances from the WTC Transportation Hub, and two from the retail area. The first office floor begins at 278 feet above street level. A typical office area will offer 45,000 rentable square feet of space. Additionally, there will be four trading floors.
So we're looking at 1,278 ft and 1,358 ft. They should just add the extra 10 ft to mirror the Freedom Tower's 1,368 ft WTC mark.
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It only makes sense to proceed with these towers... and with ALL towers planned in Manhattan, as a matter of fact. A recession will only last about a year... by the time any major skyscraper is finished, the USA will be in a recovery. Short term thinking won't help anyone.
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Great news, another height increase.
1254' -> 1270' -> 1278'
First time they increased the height by 16', now by 8', do u see a pattern there ? Next height increase will be by 4', then 2' then 1', then 0.5' ... Ultimately it'll end up being close to 1286'. Go ahead, call me a geek, but I might end up being right. (j/k)
Your funny Aluminum!

I hadn't noticed that. Maybe someone should also the architect and developer if they've been planning this.
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Tower 2 will rise to 1,278 feet and be topped by an 80-foot antenna.

Antenna, huh ? Does that mean they're not gonna count extra 80 feet in the official height measurements ?

And, yes, the title should be changed to 1278' and 1358', with 79 floors.
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Wait a second; all they have to do is add yet another 5 ft to make it taller than Chicago's Trump International Hotel & Tower!
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I assume by 'antenna' they mean that just mean the peak of the triangle ?
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all they have to do is add yet another 5 ft to make it taller than Chicago's Trump International Hotel & Tower!
They can also add another 500' to make this the most jaw-dropping building ever. j/k ,ok, anyways, is that diamond thing on top purely for decorative reasons ? Or does that thing gonna have any antenna like functions, because they keep calling it an "antenna"...
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Antenna, huh ? Does that mean they're not gonna count extra 80 feet in the official height measurements ?
They're all referred to as "antenna", but only in the case of the Freedom Tower will the spire actually encase an antenna...

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Sixty-nine office floors will rise above the base to an elevation of 1,120 feet. Two television broadcast floors, mechanical floors, two restaurants, and an observation deck will be built atop these, topped with a metal-and-glass parapet marking 1,362 feet and 1,368 feet - the respective heights of the original twin towers. A communications platform ring will rise above the parapet, and a 408-foot, cable-stayed antenna, designed in collaboration with artist Kenneth Snelson, will crown the project.
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The Survivors Staircase, which some office workers used to get safely to Vesey St. on 9/11, was the last part of the original World Trade Center complex to remain exactly where it stood seven years ago. Last Sunday, a crane moved the staircase to temporary storage, where it will remain until it is lowered into the Sept. 11 Memorial Museum.

“The millions of visitors that are going to visit the museum and memorial will be able to descend right next to these amazing stairs that served as a walkway to safety and salvation on that horrific day,” said Avi Schick, chairperson of the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation, in a statement.

The L.M.D.C. brokered a compromise between those who wanted to preserve only a small piece of the staircase and those who wanted it to stay in the same spot forever.

The staircase stood 22 feet tall and, after some whittling, weighed 65 tons. To prepare the delicate, crumbling structure for the move, workers spent three months reinforcing it with steel bracing. For additional protection, the stairs were covered with plywood and Styrofoam. The move clears the way for excavation and foundation work on Tower 2.

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They can also add another 500' to make this the most jaw-dropping building ever. j/k ,ok, anyways, is that diamond thing on top purely for decorative reasons ? Or does that thing gonna have any antenna like functions, because they keep calling it an "antenna"...
I would think so. The ESB needs that to help it with the communication network.
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By Natalie Dolce
March 14, 2008

NEW YORK CITY-"Downtown is proving naysayer's wrong." So said Larry Silverstein, president and CEO of Silverstein Properties Inc., in regards to those who believed Downtown was finished after 9/11. The Center for Real Estate Studies at New York Law School presented its one-year anniversary breakfast forum with the World Trade Center developer as its guest speaker on "Building the Future of Lower Manhattan," on Thursday morning, at the Law School, located at 47 Worth St.

"The redevelopment of the World Trade Center is one of the most challenging and critical real estate projects facing New York City," explained Professor Andrew Berman, director of the Center for Real Estate Studies. "Not only is the successful redevelopment of the World Trade Center site vital to the future of New York City, but it is also especially important to the New York Law School community given our close proximity."

Silverstein pointed out to attendees--which included the general public as well as students--that "we are involved in what's going on Downtown," noting that those who study, work and live in the neighborhood are the reason why it is such an exciting developable opportunity. "Many believed that Downtown was dead after 5 p.m. and quiet on the weekends," Silverstein said; however, "the Downtown economy is durable and everlasting. It is reinventing itself."

He noted that "for years, the rebuilding of the World Trade Center seemed in disarray, and it was. We had to call on our optimism. Now, years later, it is booming." New shops are opening every week, he explained, adding that hotels and restaurants are continuously opening as well. "Vacancy rates are now at 6.2%." However, he did note that although there is demand for Downtown living space, which attracts retail to the area, "in order to remain a world class business district, Downtown needs new office space, which is what we are doing at the World Trade Center Towers."

As GlobeSt.com recently reported from Wednesday's New York Building Congress luncheon, the Freedom Tower, also called 1 WTC, as well as Towers 2, 3, and 4 are all scheduled for completion by 2012. Silverstein again echoed that date at Thursday's breakfast presentation, telling attendees that "You can count on that schedule."

The future of WTC, and the state of Downtown as a whole, will be spotlighted on May 13 at RealShare Downtown New York.

Silverstein’s presentation was disrupted when several attendees began questioning him about the events of 9/11. After some hecklers were escorted out of the room, and despite many questions grilling him over the specifics of what transpired on 9/11, Silverstein continued with talk of a recession and how that would affect vacancy rates in general and financing for the $20-billion WTC project specifically. "Of the 184 companies that moved Downtown between 2005 and 2007, most are not in the financial sector," he said, pointing to 7 World Trade Center as an example of such diversified tenants. He also explained that he doesn't expect vacancy rates to hike because "Downtown is the workplace of choice. …You can lease space at a discount. If we all keep pulling our oars, we are going to get there and make Downtown the best place to live and work."

Silverstein explained that the financing for the WTC project is being divided in a number of ways. "The $7 billion that we are spending on Towers 2, 3, and 4 are coming from insurance company proceeds and liberty bond financing. The Freedom Tower is being paid for by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Goldman Sachs is spending $2 billion on its building; Morgan Stanley is spending $2 billion on its building. And with the government paying for infrastructure and the mayor's contributions, we are pretty much set."

Silverstein Properties owns, manages, and has developed 20 million sf of office, residential, and retail. In May 2006, Silverstein Properties opened 7 World Trade Center, a 52-story, 1.7-million-sf office tower at 250 Greenwich St., just north of the World Trade Center site. More than 75% of the building is now leased to a diverse group of tenants. In September 2006, designs were unveiled for three new office towers on the World Trade Center site--200, 175, and 150 Greenwich St.--that will be developed by Silverstein Properties. Earlier this year, Silverstein revealed an agreement with Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts to operate a hotel and private residences within a new development at 99 Church St. in Downtown Manhattan. The 80-story building is being designed by Robert A.M. Stern and at 912 feet, will be the tallest residential tower in New York, according to Silverstein.
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Has anyone noticed it yet?

Silverstein looks to be about ten years or so younger in that pic! Haha!!

Anyway, I'm so glad that Ground Zero is proving a lot of non-believers wrong!! Work seems to be progressing very well there.

Four projects are well underway with three more towers soon to join the party!! To steal a line from one of Kool & the Gang's old songs; "Let's all celebrate and have a good time." Break out with the champaign. Let's party!!
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Antenna, huh ? Does that mean they're not gonna count extra 80 feet in the official height measurements ?
And, yes, the title should be changed to 1278' and 1358', with 79 floor
Antennas have never counted in official height measurements... only in the "pinnacle" category....hence the thread title.

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Wait a second; all they have to do is add yet another 5 ft to make it taller than Chicago's Trump International Hotel & Tower!
It already is...by 107 ft.
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Antennas have never counted in official height measurements...
only in the "pinnacle" category....hence the thread title.

I think you are still confused. But it couldn't be any more clearer here:



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