NCC interprovincial transit plan MIA?

[Acajack]

Masson-Cumberland also has an underwater pipe system of some kind that prevents ice from forming in the ferry channel.

[eternallyme]

The biggest problem with Masson-Cumberland is that it does not lead to any real transit connections, making it useless as a passenger ferry.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Water based transit won't work when the river is frozen.

Fun fact! The Ottawa River periodically thaws out completely!

[RTWAP]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Fun fact! The Ottawa River periodically thaws out completely!

Global warming. *shakes head*

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by RTWAP

Global warming. *shakes head*

And even if it didn't, the fact that the Ottawa River freezes up is no more a reason not to look at water transport during the navigation season, than the fact that waterways thaw out is a reason not to do the canal ice-skatey thingie or ice fishing.

[RTWAP]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

And even if it didn't, the fact that the Ottawa River freezes up is no more a reason not to look at water transport during the navigation season, than the fact that waterways thaw out is a reason not to do the canal ice-skatey thingie or ice fishing.

Why do we let it freeze up? Won't someone think of the children?

[citizen j]

The children? The children.... THE CHILDREN!!! That's IT!!!! Brilliant.
Please allow me to submit for your consideration A Modest Proposal for Interprovincial Transit ... using vehicles fueled by the various heaps of dead children lying about town near newly completed condo sites. (debt to Jonathan Swift acknowledged).

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by citizen j

The children? The children.... THE CHILDREN!!! That's IT!!!! Brilliant.
Please allow me to submit for your consideration A Modest Proposal for Interprovincial Transit ... using vehicles fueled by the various heaps of dead children lying about town near newly completed condo sites. (debt to Jonathan Swift acknowledged).

Organic, carbon-neutral, free-range ethical children, I hope.

[Luker]

Ottawa-Gatineau transit study only "weeks" away: councillors


Posted by Trevor Pritchard on Thursday, September 27, 2012


A much-anticipated NCC report on the future of transit links between Ottawa and Gatineau is only a few weeks away, according to councillors on both sides of the Ottawa River.

Rideau-Vanier councillor Mathieu Fleury and one of his Gatineau counterparts, Buckingham councillor Maxime Pedneaud-Jobin, have issued a joint press release this morning calling for a "permanent forum on the integration and management of an interprovincial transit strategy." Both Ottawa and Gatineau are undertaking fairly major transit projects these days: Ottawa is in the early days of its $2.1-billion light rail network, expected to be in operation by 2018, while Gatineau is putting the finishing touches on its 12-km Rapidbus transit network.

As Fleury says in the release, the two cities need to "seize this opportunity" to come up with better mass transit for residents of the National Capital Region:


We have all the tools in hand to take action. We have the opportunity to speak as neighbours and we must seize this opportunity it as quickly as possible to address the transit needs of all residents of Gatineau and Ottawa. The current situation shows us just how important it is to establish cooperation between the two provinces.

As the Ottawa Sun reported in April, the study—funded by the NCC, the city of Ottawa, and the Société de transport de l'Outaouais—aims to find ways of better connecting riders in the two cities.

It's taken a bit longer than expected to put together, however: the NCC told the Sun that they hoped to have the report published by June, and obviously, that deadline's come and gone. And it was already late in April, which outgoing NCC CEO Marie Lemay ascribed to the complexity of dealing with two different provincial jurisdictions.

How do you think Ottawa and Gatineau's transit situation could be improved? Let us know


http://www.openfile.ca/ottawa/blog/2...ay-councillors

[Uhuniau]

The study came up in the House of Commons last week (Monday the 17th) in response to a written opposition question.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

The study came up in the House of Commons last week (Monday the 17th) in response to a written opposition question.

I suspect the Conservatives answered by accusing the NDP of being communists? Or maybe that the Green Party are a bunch of hippies?

You know, anything to avoid any valid question.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

I suspect the Conservatives answered by accusing the NDP of being communists? Or maybe that the Green Party are a bunch of hippies?

You know, anything to avoid any valid question.

Question No. 762--

Mr. Kevin Lamoureux: With regard to the National Capital Commission (NCC): (a) what was the original timeline or schedule for its Interprovincial Transit Strategy; (b) was each proposed milestone in that timeline or schedule met; (c) if not, what was the reason for the delay; (d) what is the currently anticipated release date for the final report; and (e) what steps will the NCC take to follow up on the conclusions or recommendations of that report?

Hon. John Baird (Minister of Foreign Affairs, CPC): Mr. Speaker, the interprovincial transit strategy is a collaborative effort led by its study partners, the National Capital Commission, NCC; the Société de transport de l’Outaouais, STO; and the City of Ottawa as funders, with the participation of the Ville de Gatineau. The study will propose a vision to achieve sustainable, seamless and interconnected transit serving the Ottawa and Gatineau downtowns, supported by specific steps for how the partners could work collaboratively with wise investments in the near and long terms.
In response to (a), the study consists of a number of stages and milestones that included the following: study initiation, analysis of needs and opportunities, development of strategic pillars, selecting modeling method, and identification of scenarios. These milestones were interspersed with several stakeholder and public consultations and focus group sessions.
The joint study was initiated in spring 2009. The original timelines were these: phase I, April/May 2009, the benefits and challenges of interprovincial transit; phase II, June/August 2009, the process for selection of a solution; phase III, February 2010, confirmation and prioritization; and phase IV, June/July 2010, progressing the strategy
In response to (b) and (c), the screening and evaluation of scenarios required more time and attention than anticipated, in response to requests by stakeholders for a broader spectrum of scenarios for medaling and detail consideration. This has required prolonged review and meticulous consideration by the study partners.
In response to (d), a final draft of the strategy report is currently being reviewed by the study partners, and is anticipated to be released in fall 2012.
In response to (e), the partners acknowledge the importance of the study as a blueprint for ongoing dialogue, collaboration and cooperation on interprovincial transit planning and service delivery that aims to increase ridership, reduce downtown congestion and cut emissions. Some of the study recommendations will require joint action over the coming years while others will need to be taken forward by each authority over different times.

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Question No. 762--

Mr. Kevin Lamoureux: With regard to the National Capital Commission (NCC): (a) what was the original timeline or schedule for its Interprovincial Transit Strategy; (b) was each proposed milestone in that timeline or schedule met; (c) if not, what was the reason for the delay; (d) what is the currently anticipated release date for the final report; and (e) what steps will the NCC take to follow up on the conclusions or recommendations of that report?

Hon. John Baird (Minister of Foreign Affairs, CPC): Mr. Speaker, the interprovincial transit strategy is a collaborative effort led by its study partners, the National Capital Commission, NCC; the Société de transport de l’Outaouais, STO; and the City of Ottawa as funders, with the participation of the Ville de Gatineau. The study will propose a vision to achieve sustainable, seamless and interconnected transit serving the Ottawa and Gatineau downtowns, supported by specific steps for how the partners could work collaboratively with wise investments in the near and long terms.
In response to (a), the study consists of a number of stages and milestones that included the following: study initiation, analysis of needs and opportunities, development of strategic pillars, selecting modeling method, and identification of scenarios. These milestones were interspersed with several stakeholder and public consultations and focus group sessions.
The joint study was initiated in spring 2009. The original timelines were these: phase I, April/May 2009, the benefits and challenges of interprovincial transit; phase II, June/August 2009, the process for selection of a solution; phase III, February 2010, confirmation and prioritization; and phase IV, June/July 2010, progressing the strategy
In response to (b) and (c), the screening and evaluation of scenarios required more time and attention than anticipated, in response to requests by stakeholders for a broader spectrum of scenarios for medaling and detail consideration. This has required prolonged review and meticulous consideration by the study partners.
In response to (d), a final draft of the strategy report is currently being reviewed by the study partners, and is anticipated to be released in fall 2012.
In response to (e), the partners acknowledge the importance of the study as a blueprint for ongoing dialogue, collaboration and cooperation on interprovincial transit planning and service delivery that aims to increase ridership, reduce downtown congestion and cut emissions. Some of the study recommendations will require joint action over the coming years while others will need to be taken forward by each authority over different times.

Well I'll be damned!

He answered the question, and without throwing any accusations.
That’s got too be a first.

[S-Man]

There's plenty of accusations to throw around when dealing with the NCC, but hippes and communists aren't near the top of the heap, as I'm sure you know.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Well I'll be damned!

He answered the question, and without throwing any accusations.
That’s got too be a first.

It's a written question, not a Question Period question. Very different beasties.

[Capital Shaun]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

It's a written question, not a Question Period question. Very different beasties.

The written answer was probably assembled by a lowly bureaucrat.

My question is why do Harper's ministers answer questions for departments they're not in charge of? Baird is head of Foreign Affairs. Why is he answering a question about transportation and infrastructure?

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Capital Shaun

The written answer was probably assembled by a lowly bureaucrat.

My question is why do Harper's ministers answer questions for departments they're not in charge of? Baird is head of Foreign Affairs. Why is he answering a question about transportation and infrastructure?

He is also Minister Responsible for the National Capital Commission.

[S-Man]

Uhuniau must be one of those ConBots who are paid to express opinions in news comment threads.

But seriously, it seems like a weird and kinda annoying portfolio to have to oversee when you're Minister of Foreign Affairs. That said, if Quebec seperates, they can lump the NCC file under that Ministry!

[gjhall]

Originally Posted by S-Man

Uhuniau must be one of those ConBots who are paid to express opinions in news comment threads.

But seriously, it seems like a weird and kinda annoying portfolio to have to oversee when you're Minister of Foreign Affairs. That said, if Quebec seperates, they can lump the NCC file under that Ministry!

The fact that he is minister of foreign affairs has no bearing on his NCC portfolio, which he has as the ranking member for the Ottawa area.

[Capital Shaun]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

He is also Minister Responsible for the National Capital Commission.

I stand corrected.

I do have to wonder how much involvement with the NCC he actually has. Foreign Affairs is certainly a time consuming high profile portfolio.