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Why is the operating speed of the downtown tube (40 mph) higher than the uptown tube (20 mph)?
The uptown tube is probably in poor condition, necessitating the need for slower moving trains.
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Old Posted Apr 11, 2017, 6:01 PM
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World of Subways 1 – The Path

The speed limit of the Christopher Street tubes in the video is 20 mph.

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Old Posted Apr 11, 2017, 9:26 PM
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Lol. That game is ridiculously realistic. Lol
One for the most die hard transit fans.
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2017 Ridership Numbers

Month | Avg. Weekday Ridership | % Chg from Prior Year | % Chg from 2015

Jan 266,846 (+6.53%) (+17.26% from 2015)
Feb 266,278 (+3.77%) (+8.59% from 2015)

Total ridership so far this year is 12,264,054, an increase of 4.33% from the same period last year. Not bad.
March is 266,745

It looks like 266k is it for now. It's probably not getting much higher unless the Port Authority starts running more trains. It will be interesting to see what ridership does now with the hundreds of new units coming online every month in the immediate vicinity of the stations.
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2017 Ridership Numbers

Month | Avg. Weekday Ridership | % Chg from Prior Year | % Chg from 2015

Jan 266,846 (+6.53%) (+17.26% from 2015)
Feb 266,278 (+3.77%) (+8.59% from 2015)
March 266,745 (+0.61%) (+6.46% from 2015)
April 289,351 (+7.12%) (+12.00% from 2015)

Total Ridership YTD: 26,005,863

BOOM! April 2017 is busiest month on record. If my theory is correct, each successive month should be recordbreaking as thousands of units from the Waterfront to Newark come online and the New York City job market continues to grow. I would love for Journal Square and Newark to see widescale office development to encourage a reverse flow from Manhattan.
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PATH sees boost in ridership during NY Penn Station repairs

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HOBOKEN - Thousands of additional New Jersey commuters are taking PATH trains into New York City while Amtrak completes repairs at New York Penn Station, Port Authority officials said.

The Port Authority said as of Tuesday morning, PATH is running with an overall on-time performance rate of nearly 98 percent.
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For the first six months of the year, PATH carried an average 277,000 weekday riders. From July 10 through Wednesday, the rail system carried an average 309,000 riders, with about 24,000 using their NJ Transit tickets to transfer at Hoboken Terminal.

Currently, PATH ridership is outpacing that of the Long Island Rail Road, Metro-North and NJ Transit's commuter rail operations, the region's largest.

"And those are big railroads," said Mike Marino, PATH's director and general manager.

Marino added that the railroad had maintained a 98 percent on-time record in spite of 7 percent to 8 percent more riders. It was 100 percent on time on Thursday, he said.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2017, 2:54 AM
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Another interesting fact is average daily ridership growth has been occurring in all the PATH stations over the last 5 years except for Journal Square. It's been flat having the nearly identical average weekday ridership numbers from 2012 to 2017. What would cause this? And with Journal Squared leasing up, I wonder if we'll finally see a slight bump?
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Would be nice if they have more cars in service on both WTC and 33rd street lines from midnight to 6am on the weekends!

Unrealistic but one can dream!
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Would be nice if they have more cars in service on both WTC and 33rd street lines from midnight to 6am on the weekends!

Unrealistic but one can dream!
One more train to each line would reduce the headways from 35 min overnight to 18-20 min. It's documented that ridership is greatly influenced by headways, so there should be a decent ridership boost too.
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PATH train ridership has seen a bump of about 30,000 trips each work day due to the Amtrak "Summer of Hell." PATH came on shining as it's been able to accommodate the additional riders while keeping on time train performance.

Now that the summer of hell has ended, it will be interesting to see how many of the 30,000 riders stick around.

Pre-Summer of Hell Avg. Weekday Ridership: ~270,000
Current Ridership: ~300,000

I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them stick. PATH is more affordable at a $3.25 flat rate and Penn Station is still a hell hole. The Herald Square PATH station is just a block away from Penn, so the location shouldn't be too much of a factor when deciding which train to use.

Ridership is growing in all stations, except Journal Square?!? Why? Anyone care to guess? Average weekday ridership has been stuck at ~26,000 for years. The new development in the area has not seen more people using the station. I can't figure it out.
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Yes Yes Yes!

There is talk about giving PATH to NJ Transit, which is the wrong move. Give it to MTA and integrate it more into the NYC subway system. They already share payment methods. I'd venture to say most path riders transfer to the MTA rather than transfer to NJ Transit.
It's a nice pipe dream, but it won't happen. The PA is a perfect agency to run PATH since it's a bi-state agency. Should NJ Transit run buses and trains all over NY? And consider the fact that if the MTA were to run PATH, then you're talking about integrating PATH to the NYC subway system, which is very complicated since many of the trains on the MTA side aren't compatible nor are they designed for the PATH system and plus the fare structure would have to change in order to go to NJ and back. Leave PATH to the PA, it doesn't need to be run by the MTA!!!
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It's a nice pipe dream, but it won't happen. The PA is a perfect agency to run PATH since it's a bi-state agency. Should NJ Transit run buses and trains all over NY? And consider the fact that if the MTA were to run PATH, then you're talking about integrating PATH to the NYC subway system, which is very complicated since many of the trains on the MTA side aren't compatible nor are they designed for the PATH system and plus the fare structure would have to change in order to go to NJ and back. Leave PATH to the PA, it doesn't need to be run by the MTA!!!
The PA doesn't want to operate PATH and it shows. It's a terribly inefficient organization, even worst than MTA. If only the federal government would strong arm all these transit agencies via conditions of grant funding for fare integration and a more seamless ride for regional riders. WMATA in DC handes two states in addition to the district. They were able to come up with a funding formula each state contributes to assist in operations.

My dream would be to see the Feds send a message to New York State and New Jersey. Play nice together and make it work or F*ck your transit funding. lol But you're right. Both states would probably forgo the federal funding before working together.

MTA is a state entity, and I'm pretty sure there are some metro north trains that run through New Jersey via interstate agreement.
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