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Old Posted: Jul 20, 2012, 5:18 PM
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This thread has gotten way off topic and very aggressive. Maybe ya'll should just start a "Trolls hating and loving on Atlanta" thread? Thanks.
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atlantaguy: Perhaps, rather than attacking individual forumers, you would rather address Kunstler's tour of downtown Atlanta? You'll note that he does swing through what I believe is the Fairlie-Poplar neighborhood that, if I understand you correctly, atones for all the other sins of Atlanta's center city. You'll further note that he actually compliments it.

Seriously -- you and the other Atlanta forumers need to lower your blood pressure or something. Every time anyone comes on here and says that Atlanta is anything less than the apotheosis of American urbanity, you all lose your shit. It's tiresome. Atlanta is fine for what it is, but taken as a whole (so don't trot out the hair-trigger outrage), Atlanta and the Atlanta metropolitan area are not the best that American urbanity has to offer, or even than the South has to offer. Live with it. Deal with it. Fix it. But don't throw a temper tantrum about it.

Kunstler is a very influential urbanist that a lot of us might have more to say about and I'd rather not see this thread closed due to bickering.

On another note, I finished Geography of Nowhere and have moved on to Home from Nowhere. Like vid with his sandwiches, I usually attend to it when I'm in the bathroom, so it's going to take me a while to work through it.
C'mon now. Get Real. Who the hell are the other Atlanta forummers? Atlantaguy was the only forummer presumably from Atlanta that has responded until your off the mark post. And it's reasonable that someone would respond when calls their home "disgusting". While multiple people – some using strong adjectives – posting disparaging comments, giving amens including Uptowngirl who lived in Canton but claiming Atlanta. Those comments are just overblown negativity. Yes overblown.

Nonetheless, I still was not going to respond to this thread until your lumping of Atlanta forummers. I am sure Atlantaguy does not like someone putting words in his words. No one does. Nowhere did I see him mentioned Atlanta was the urban best in anything. Those are what your words imply. Atlanta is very seldomly spoken favorably on this forum but often with negative things overblown.

Yes the area around Merchandise Mart, Apparel Mart near the Peachtree Center has concrete walls mainly for truck loadings and buses. Yes the Hyatt Regency and Marriot Marquis hotels have atriums. But the Merchandise Mart and the aforementioned hotels are not nearly all of the Peachtree Center area. And Peachtree Center is a portion of Downtown and it has plenty of pedestrian activity. From the southern end of Downtown – Mitchell Street northward to Peachtree Center area – is practically free of any of the overblown negativity of concrete walls, hotel atriums that some folk have mentioned. It may gritty. It may not be conducive to many conventioneers and tourists who may want to see someone tap dance, mime, sell trickets, take pictures or lie on a beach or view national monuments. But it is very practical for the many Metro Atlantans who work, shop, eat, go to school, catch and change bus/train, etc. in the area.

My work and life has taken me to many places in the US. To imply somewhat the Downtown Atlanta is so diametrically unique to most other places is overblown in my opinion. And that is MY OPINION. I think it is closed-mindedness to suggest that the thread be closed because someone does march lock and step with what you want to hear especially when their response has been somewhat restrained. Many folks who profess to being open-minded are not nearly as open-minded and progressive as they profess. As for the thread being closed maybe that is for the better. But to blame the closing to the one forummer (Atlantaguy) who countered strong harsh adjectives to his home amid personal attacks that assume that he has not traveled is in particular discriminatory, impartial especially in an area of forum where the title includes “Discussion”. So maybe closing is best and you should go talk or write to yourself.
     
     
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Old Posted: Jul 20, 2012, 6:19 PM
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atlantaguy: Perhaps, rather than attacking individual forumers, you would rather address Kunstler's tour of downtown Atlanta? You'll note that he does swing through what I believe is the Fairlie-Poplar neighborhood that, if I understand you correctly, atones for all the other sins of Atlanta's center city. You'll further note that he actually compliments it.

Seriously -- you and the other Atlanta forumers need to lower your blood pressure or something. Every time anyone comes on here and says that Atlanta is anything less than the apotheosis of American urbanity, you all lose your shit. It's tiresome. Atlanta is fine for what it is, but taken as a whole (so don't trot out the hair-trigger outrage), Atlanta and the Atlanta metropolitan area are not the best that American urbanity has to offer, or even than the South has to offer. Live with it. Deal with it. Fix it. But don't throw a temper tantrum about it.

Kunstler is a very influential urbanist that a lot of us might have more to say about and I'd rather not see this thread closed due to bickering.

On another note, I finished Geography of Nowhere and have moved on to Home from Nowhere. Like vid with his sandwiches, I usually attend to it when I'm in the bathroom, so it's going to take me a while to work through it.
Well of course you would take this stance haunted, as you are guilty of making the same sweeping generalizations over the years. I can particularly remember a post of yours where you stated the suburbs here were so hideous they made your eyes bleed! Really?

You simply don't know enough about this place to pass such judgements. Motoring straight in on I-85 to a small portion of Downtown/Midtown does not give you the authority to BE such an authority on the place. Period.

I would guess you've experienced perhaps 1/1000th of what the metro truly offers.
     
     
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This thread has gotten way off topic and very aggressive. Maybe ya'll should just start a "Trolls hating and loving on Atlanta" thread? Thanks.
nah, this is just going to continue until a mod locks the thread, like always...
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