Originally Posted by vid
Duluth's MSA includes places that are about 100 miles away from it. (It goes to the border.) To compare a Canadian CMA to an American MSA, you have to look at the municipal/CDP/township level. If Thunder Bay's metropolitan area was determined using the American rules, it would have 149,063 people and include Marathon and Greenstone. It would cover 103,000sqkm.
Cities, towns, townships, villages, unincorporated settlements and census designated places around Duluth-Superior:
Amnicon WI - 1,074
Brevator Township MN - 1,226
Canosia Township MN - 1,998
Carlton MN - 810
Cloquet MN - 11,201
Duluth (City) MN - 86,918
Duluth Township MN - 1,723
Grand Lake Township MN - 2,621
Hermantown MN - 7,448
Lakeside - 609
Lakewood Township MN - 2,013
Maple - 649
Midway Township MN - 1,479
Normanna Township MN - 637
Oakland WI - 1,144
Oliver WI - 358
Parkland WI - 1,240
Poplar WI - 552
Proctor MN - 2,852
Rice Lake Township MN - 4,139 (Includes Arnold, part of Duluth's Urban Area but unincorporated)
Scanlon MN - 838
Silver Brook Township MN - 609
Solway Township MN - 1,842
Superior (City) WI - 27,368
Superior (Town) WI - 2,058
Superior (Village) WI - 500
Thomson Township MN - 4,361
Thomson (City) MN - 153
Twin Lakes Township MN - 1,912
Wrenshall Township MN - 326
Wrenshall (City) MN - 308
All of those municipalities and townships (hopefully none of the numbers are duplicating anything) add up to 170,966. That's using a very liberal definition of what would be part of the CMA. In all likelihood, only the bolded places would be included in a CMA of Duluth, and they have a combined population of 132,646. If Cloquet is included (I think it might end up being a CA) Duluth's CMA would have 149,171. The other 125,000 people? They live in the northern part of St. Louis County (Virginia and area would be their own CA) and the rural parts of St. Louis, Douglas and Carlton counties. The whole thing is moot anyway: Duluth doesn't have enough people to be the core of a CMA. It did in 1970, but by 1971, when CMAs were created, it would have dropped below that, and so Duluth would never have been a CMA, just a CA.
Thunder Bay's CMA is 122,907. When you include nearby unincorporated areas (The CDPs of Lappe, Kaministiquia and Nolalu) which would be part of the CMA if they were incorporated (we're the only CMA with this anomaly) the population is 126,296. Include Dorion, Hurkett (an unincorporated CDP), Nipigon and Red Rock to the east and the population is 129,775. Dorion could very well be added to the CMA in 2011. Hurkett is unincorporated and separates us from Nipigon and Red Rock, so those three can't join under Statistics Canada's rules. To the west are some more unincorporated areas, and including them the population would be closer to 130,500.
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