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Old Posted Mar 19, 2014, 8:03 PM
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Interesting, its pretty sad that Pittsburgh has only gotten one, and its getting built right now.
Not sure how that's "sad"... No city in Pittsburgh's "peer group" has built more than one 500 footer this century. It's only much larger metros (even LA only has 2), boomtowns (Austin, Charlotte) and resorts (Atlantic City, Las Vegas)This just hasn't been a great era for skyscraper construction in the US other than a few cities. And for Pittsburgh... between PNC Tower, 3 PNC and a few other mid-rises... the past few years have been the most active tower construction since the 80s.

And of course... if Oxford is able to demolish the Frank & Seder building... Pittsburgh will get a second 500-footer...
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It's just the same in Europe:

Total number of 500+ footers finished in the 21st century: 87

20: Moscow (23.0%)
19: Istanbul (21.8%)
11: London (12.6%)

8: Paris
4: Madrid, Warsaw
3: Frankfurt, Rotterdam
2: Milan, Benidorm
1: Vienna, Wroclaw, Malmö, Manchester, Bilbao, Rome, Kiev, Konya, Ankara, Yekaterinburg
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If everything in the pipeline works out Philly will be at 8 in the next three years, the currently guaranteed developments brings us to 4 and probable up to 6.
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Here's a map that shows all of Europe's 500+ footers since 2000. Dark Blue=Completed, Red= U/C 6 pixel=1 building

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I bet our jaws would drop if a China list came up for 500+ ft.
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Here's a map that shows all of Europe's 500+ footers since 2000. Dark Blue=Completed, Red= U/C 6 pixel=1 building

awesome map! Great way to visualize these numbers. I wish I knew how to make one for North america.


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I bet our jaws would drop if a China list came up for 500+ ft.
I can't even begin to imagine how many thousands there would be.
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awesome map! Great way to visualize these numbers. I wish I knew how to make one for North america.
I'll make one tomorrow and include Canada and Mexico as well.
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I can't even begin to imagine how many thousands there would be.
I think China overall would have hundreds, but not thousands. There aren't that many cities in China with a ton of 500+ ft. buildings.
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^ i just checked, the SSP diagrams returned 797 500+ footers for China since 2000! but I have no idea how complete the SSP numbers are for china.
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There aren't that many cities in China with a ton of 500+ ft. buildings.
I wouldn't be surprised if China has more cities with 500 footers than the rest of the world combined.
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I'll make one tomorrow and include Canada and Mexico as well.
Cool, I look forward to it. Thanks in advance!
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I love how L.A. is bigger than Chicago, yet it's just barely above St. Louis.
This won't be the case for much longer. If you noticed within just the last year, things have REALLY accelerated out here. Just look at page 1 of the Downtown and Metro threads. And we're still only in RECOVERY mode.

This doesn't even include the full effects of Measure R that haven't even been felt yet, as the Regional Connector and Westside subway extensions are barely about to break ground. Not to mention America Fast Forward is being brought up again, as well as a completely new initiative to build new transit projects (in effect, Measure "R2").
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^ i just checked, the SSP diagrams returned 797 500+ footers for China since 2000, but I have no idea how complete the SSP numbers are for china.
Nobody has any accurate numbers about China. It is estimated that Shanghai alone has more than 30,000 highrise buildings (12+ floors).



I already finished the map. I had to use a slightly larger scale because some of the bars were higher than in the European map and I still wanted to use 6 pixel for 1 building.

Interesting fact: Toronto and Istanbul have basically the same amount of completed and u/c 500+ footers since 2000!


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I wouldn't be surprised if China has more cities with 500 footers than the rest of the world combined.
Europe has 19 cities with a 500 footer.

24 Around 50 in the US and Canada.

India has Mumbai and Kolkata. Japan should have a few; Tokyo, Osaka, Yokohama, Nagoya, maybe a couple more. Jakarta, Seoul, Manila, Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh City, Hong Kong, Taipei, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore, Hanoi, Busan, Kaohsiung...

Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Gold Coast...

Brazil has Sao Paulo and Rio. Mexico City, Buenos Aires, Bogota, Santiago, Caracas, Panama City...

Besides Johannesburg none in Africa?

Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Doha, Manama, Tel Aviv, Riyad, that thing in Mecca...



Say around 100 cities total, China excluded. It's more like 120-150 then.


Hmmm, the rest of the world should have more afterall, but not overwhelmingly more I think.
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Confirmed Chinese cities with 500 footers:

Shanghai, Beijing, Tianjin, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Hong Kong, Suzhou, Shenzhen, Nanjing, Hangzhou, Harbin, Chengdu, Macau, Xian, Shenyang, Dongguan, Wuhan, Qingdao, Xiamen, Shantou, Zhengzhou, Jinan, Changsha, Nanchang, Kunming, Dalian, Wuxi, Taiyuan, Ningbo, Zibo, Hefei, Shijiazhuang, Nantong, Nanning, Guiyang, Ürümqi, Fuzhou...


Possible, not confirmed: Wenzhou, Changchun, Quanzhou, Taizhou, Tangshan.


If someone wants to take it from here, I stopped after Fuzhou with no end in sight:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._by_population
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24 in the US and Canada.
there are more than 24 cities in the US and Canada with a 500+ footer.

The actual number is probably closer to 50.

Boston
Hartford
New York City
Atlantic City
Philadelphia
Baltimore
Virginia Beach
Raleigh
Charlotte
Atlanta

Jacksonville
Tampa
Miami
Mobile
New Orleans
Nashville
Louisville
Pittsburgh
Buffalo
Cleveland

Columbus
Cincinnati
Detroit
Indianapolis
Chicago
Milwaukee
Minneapolis
Des Moines
St. Louis
Kansas City

Omaha
Little Rock
Houston
Dallas
Austin
Fort Worth
Tulsa
Oklahoma City
Denver
Seattle

Portland
San Francisco
Los Angeles
Las Vegas
San Diego
Toronto
Montreal
Calgary
Vancouver
Niagara Falls



EDIT: these are the ones i missed on the first pass:

albany
san antonio
jersey city, NJ (NYC metro)
sunny isles beach, FL (miami metro)
hallandale beach, FL (miami metro)
sandy springs, GA (atlanta metro)
mississauga, ON (toronto metro)
burnaby, BC (vancouver metro)


so that brings USA/canada to 58 or 52 cities with a 500+ footer, depending on whether or not suburbs are combined with their core city into a single metro area.
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Interesting fact: Toronto and Istanbul have basically the same amount of completed and u/c 500+ footers since 2000!
I'm confused, on the previous page you said that Istanbul has 19 completed and U/C 500+ footers since 2000. Toronto has 39. That's a pretty big difference.

and thanks again for the North America map!
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there are more than 24 cities in the US and Canada with a 500+ footer.

The actual number is probably closer to 50.
Crap, I was going by R@ptor's map but that's only the ones build this century...
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is that the correct height? i ask because the SSP diagrams have it listed at 476'.

Including the spire, it is 501'...
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Well one off the top of my head that you missed Steely is Albany, New York. Erastus Corning Tower in the Empire State Plaza is 589ft.
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