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Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix
Guys, no offense, but give yer heads a shake!
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This is Ottawa, which is far closer to the Atlantic than the Pacific. It is not practical for us to have flights to Asian/Oceanic destinations. Not only that, but we are a very small market and the demand simply isn't there.
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The impracticality of Ottawa-Asia is only in the market demand. Many of today's aircraft (like 777LR and A340-500) and future aircraft have and will have the legs to make Asia nonstop (depends where in Asia of course). However, there's just no way anyone should expect Ottawa-Asia anytime soon. Don't even waste your time thinking about it. Fascinating is a different story ...
Same goes for Ottawa-Australia. There's just no way so don't waste your time even thinking about it. To even suggest it is kind of hilarious. FYI, Air Canada is starting nonstop service to Sydney from Vancouver nonstop using 777-300 starting December 15. The flight will originate in Toronto, giving Toronto a direct flight to Sydney. Up until now Air Canada flew Vancouver-Sydney with a stop in Honolulu.
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Originally Posted by O-Town Hockey
I personally don't know what all the stink is about direct international flights.
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It 'stinks' on so many important levels I can't even name them all!
A city with nonstop flights to many places around the world is a city with thriving and growing business. It is a frequently visited city, with bustling tourism. It is a city that hosts many conferences and conventions. It is a city growing in population due to increased immigration. It is a city whose residents can easily travel the world. In short, it is a healthy city, a great city, an important city. These are all things that we want for Ottawa.
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All we need is to up our frequency to the massive hub that is Pearson and one can be connected to any city in the world.
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Ottawa is also well connected to places like New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Detroit, Washington, Atlanta, London, and soon Frankfurt ... all places that are well connected to the entire world, several even moreso than Toronto. The point is that (within reason) we want to BE like those places, not RELY on them.
And for the record, Air Canada offers hourly service Ottawa-Pearson (Rapidair). Westjet also flies multi-daily Ottawa-Pearson. Porter flies 10x-daily Ottawa-Toronto (City Centre). There is no shortage of flights to Toronto. In fact, Ottawa-Toronto is in the top-5 busiest routes in all of Canada (I think it's 3rd or 4th).
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Or use Vancouver as our gateway to East Asia and Australia.
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It is, along with Chicago, Detroit, and hopefully some day San Francisco. That will never change. Ottawa's target market is Europe, and the United States.
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I think it's a good idea that we slowly release new internationals after extensive research shows the demand is there. Nothing worse than a city overdoing things in good times only to fall on its face 15 years later.
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Who is 'we', and what part has the city in any of this? You might have a misunderstanding of how air routes are created and operated.
Airlines don't provide a community service. They don't just start a bunch of routes and pray that they work out, nor do they start a bunch of routes because of peer pressure. Airlines are in the business of making money, and will only fly someplace if they feel they can accomplish that.
For routes such as Ottawa-London or Ottawa-Frankfurt, a lot (in many cases years) of statistical analysis is performed to examine it's viability. First and foremost, a healthy supply of premium traffic is required. You can fill up every economy seat in an aircraft every single day all year round, but without most/all of the premium seats filled up front, the route won't happen (or if it does, it won't last long).
You're asking that new internationals be released only after extensive research, and I'm telling you that's the only way it will happen. Just look at how long we waited for our second scheduled transatlantic service on a legacy carrier.