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Whoa!!! I honostly don't know what to say! It's great to see another project, especially of this height, make an addition to the skyline. The design is definetly different, but those renderings are spactacular!!!
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^^ This is a Daniel Libeskind design...
but it's not covered in jagged glass edges!

I am truly impressed. This building will be fantastic.
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This tower is fantastic.
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After the first glance I was ready to pronounce this "gimicky", until I saw the extreme close-up in post #128 and said Holy Crap!
Those garden terraces are amazing. Every inch of space inside the "gash" is utilized by terraces and balconies.

The sight from those interior terraces would be breathtaking. You're on an outdoor terrace with lush greenery, with the city view before you, and these massive collumns holding up the rest of the building over your head.... Wow!
     
     
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There is no denying that this proposal is outstanding and incredible (I LOVE IT), but I must say I've become increasingly skeptical of such fantastically groundbreaking designs' ability to hold water in the stagnating real estate market. I almost feel like it's a waste to propose these towers NOW, when they (the architects) could instead let them incubate in their heads for another year or two. I mean, we all know that if this proposal falls through (hypothetically speaking of course), the second proposal, which could or could not be by Libeskind, will not be as spectacular. It is just the nature of these things, and we'll say "oh darn, I wish he had proposed that garden-terrace tower now instead of back in 2008." I want to say to the starchitects, stop wasting these great proposals in this dead market! In a better market (i.e. 2011-2012 perhaps?), I can bet you that this and other troubled proposals would slide right through to construction (ignoring the NIMBY factor, of course), instead of becoming trapped in red tape or lack-of-funds spiderwebs like they are now.

SAVE THE GOOD PROPOSALS FOR A BETTER TIME! PLEEEASEE!!! My heart just can't bear to see more awesome buildings fall through and disappear into thin air.
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There is no denying that this proposal is outstanding and incredible (I LOVE IT), but I must say I've become increasingly skeptical of such fantastically groundbreaking designs' ability to hold water in the stagnating real estate market. I almost feel like it's a waste to propose these towers NOW, when they (the architects) could instead let them incubate in their heads for another year or two.
As Libeskind has stated, its not for "today's" market. This is not a tower that will start construction tomorrow.

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“The assumption is that by the time construction starts, we’re going to be looking at a different economy,” Lloyd Kaplan, an Elad spokesman, says.
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“This is a building for the city’s future,” Libeskind added, shrugging off concerns about working in these recessionary times. “We have a long way to go still, but we think this contributes in a whole new way.”
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Unlike the clock tower, the annex is not a city landmark, so is not subject to review by the Landmarks Preservation Commission. Libeskind added that the project is being designed as-of-right, and will not need any special zoning changes.
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After the first glance I was ready to pronounce this "gimicky", until I saw the extreme close-up in post #128 and said Holy Crap!
Those garden terraces are amazing. Every inch of space inside the "gash" is utilized by terraces and balconies.
The fortunate residents would probably never want to leave the building.
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The fortunate residents would probably never want to leave the building.
Neither will the pigeons. Definitely a bird's paradise and could be hell for the residents Well, in traditional "New Yorker" fashion, gotta complain about something! Otherwise I love this proposal.
     
     
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Neither will the pigeons. Definitely a bird's paradise and could be hell for the residents
Well, New York has a hawk population. Put a couple up there, problem solved! Better yet, move in that "couple" (Pale Male and whoever) that was going to get evicted from Fifth Avenue.
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They must bild it, hawks need a good nesting place. Seriously this building would be one of the most beautiful in the city.
     
     
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Wow, looks amazing! NYC needs a little flare to mix things up (IMO, of course!)
     
     
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Libeskind Flags 9/11, Spurned Master Plan in New Condo Tower

Review by James S. Russell

Jan. 5 (Bloomberg) -- Daniel Libeskind has proposed a tower next to Manhattan’s Madison Square with huge multifloor gashes hacked out of its tubular form. Were it to be built, it would be a crude and unavoidable reminder of the horrors of 9/11.

Is it Daniel’s revenge? After all, he has dutifully defended the master plan at the World Trade Center as his vision was turned into a dour, money-sucking melange. For his pains, he was never asked to do a building at the site.

Elad Properties, when it was raking in record sums on the sale of apartments in the Plaza Hotel, may have thought that its golden touch could conjure one of the tallest and most daring towers of the condo boom.

Called One Madison Avenue, the rounded-corner tower rises as a glass shaft along the avenue at East 23rd Street to what could be a height of 900 feet. It would loom over the fabled 1909 Metropolitan Life spire, one of New York’s skyline icons that soars on the parkside end of the same block.

Libeskind’s design sits atop the 15-story full-block building that the Met Life tower crowns. He cuts his towers’ glass exterior at the bottom as a billowing skirt to fit around the older structure’s setback roofs.

Libeskind interrupts his glassy shaft with two jagged wedges torn out of the building in seven-floor-high chunks. He terraces the sloping surfaces into apartment balconies overflowing with greenery. He even runs a furry blanket of shrubbery up the exposed thick core containing elevators, stairs and such.

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Is he trying to evoke the tragic collision of those 9/11 jets in the gashlike shapes, then offering us a symbol of rebirth in planted balconies? By telephone he says no. Instead, the idea is to extend the greenery of Madison Square Park into the sky, to make “every apartment a penthouse,” since most floors would open to one of the gardens.

The core and a few super columns would need to thread their way through the Met Life building, then down to bedrock. As they rise, the super columns divide like fork tines, into smaller columns to run less obtrusively through apartments, then unite again to zoom though the wedges of space.

This would be the most daring feat of engineering and construction proposed by a developer in years. There’s no price tag yet, but it is not an undertaking for the faint of heart or the light of wallet.

Elad wasn’t ready to reveal the design. It shows up in a new monograph of Libeskind’s work: “Counterpoint: Daniel Libeskind” (Monacelli Press, 400 pages, $60). The architect stressed that the design was preliminary and that much could change. The published design “is not really about the height. It’s about an idea of the building,” he added.

Review Process

It has yet to enter the city’s months-long special-review process, according to an Elad spokesman, nor has Elad attempted to secure financing. Watching a plunging market and fending off lawsuits filed by disgruntled Plaza buyers, the developer may choose to wait years. (Elad’s multibillion-dollar, Plaza-themed casino-hotel mega-project in Las Vegas is on hold.)

Whatever becomes of it, the condo design’s discomforting edge, unvarnished by the silky choreography of a luxury marketing rollout, captures a ruthless energy embedded in the city’s DNA.

When New York was flinging bridges across the East River and throwing up towers higher than anyone had ever seen, genteel observers were appalled at the city’s callous enormity.

Nowadays jaws drop at sight of the impossible skylines of gridlocked Shanghai, Hong Kong and Dubai. Will those cities one day inspire the same loyalty New York does? Asking such a question requires me to salute the sheer gutsiness of Libeskind’s design, with its intention to try to make sense here of an unprecedented global scale of city building.


If only Libeskind did not so clumsily cross just about every line that used to define architectural civility. One Madison is conceived with a relationship to the Metropolitan Life tower in mind, but it cannot resist lording over it in terms of size and flabby proportion.

Libeskind could have tried to pull the tall buildings that line the park into an ensemble, but he didn’t find the way -- or didn’t care. Some finesse would have made a difference. Libeskind was never good at that, and now he’s stopped trying.

(James S. Russell is Bloomberg’s U.S. architecture critic. The opinions expressed are his own.)

To contact the writer on this column: James S. Russell in New York at jamesrussell@earthlink.net.
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1 Madison Ave? But this tower is on the corner of Park Avenue. I hate that. Sure one edge of the low rise reaches Madison but its still a poor choice. Park Ave South is not as high class as Park Ave but its still the equal of Madison in name recognition.
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1 Madison Ave? But this tower is on the corner of Park Avenue. I hate that. Sure one edge of the low rise reaches Madison but its still a poor choice. Park Ave South is not as high class as Park Ave but its still the equal of Madison in name recognition.
Yeah, it could go either way.
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There is a lot of cache being "One" something. Look at all the new towers with manufactured 1's in their names... 1 Madison Park, 1 Beacon Court, 1 Prospect Park, 1 Bryant Park, etc..

Also, 1 Madison Avenue is the address of the existing office building, they're probably not sure what they're even going to call this tower yet.
     
     
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Also, 1 Madison Avenue is the address of the existing office building, they're probably not sure what they're even going to call this tower yet.
That's true. It'll probably have a "The" in it...
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"The One"?
Hope not. It'll probably sound something like "The Eclipse", "The Madison" (I think there is one already),...Tower Verre is already taken, lol
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