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"world's largest" -seating capacity 600!

http://www.lamag.com/longform/behold...-new-cliftons/


I knew Clifton's Brookdale had taxidermied mountain lions and faux redwood forests, but I didn't know it had 'Limeade Springs'!



Limeade flowing from the rocks! Kids must have loved this!
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As most of you know, Clifton's had it's grand-reopening earlier this week.


http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydis...001-story.html

I just noticed it doesn't say "Brookdale" above the marquee any longer. I definitely like the addition of "Cabinet of Curiosities".

I've read that the renovated interior is amazing.

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Thanks for the follow-up HossC.


There are several pages of permits that provide a probably roadmap of constant change for the subject property, including its concrete swimming hole and eventual replacement with what seems to be a big parking area without a high dive. It may be that but for the camera angle/lens, the B&W image of pool is virtually the same as that depicted in the post card.

One has to wonder whether the comments attributed to the Judge were colored by the alleged sight of "drunken women fighting," subjectively poor design ("architectural monstrosity"), allegations of shady permitting or a combination of all of these things. Maybe there was a concern that this simple post modern design was ill becoming the neighboring structures and/or an unrealized fear that the questionable decorum of the Country Club swim crowd might interfere with or distract from any nearby golf games or tournament play?


It is a wild guess that the evidence was viewed on the wrong day or maybe the fact finder favored the high moral climate of golf rather than swimming knickers and physical talents on display in this CC Hotel pool image from 1949. (Where are the drinks? )


USC Digital


Someone's liable to get wet!














Legal problems and code compliance were likely resolved in 1951 by the cash payment of a fine to the LA Marshall's office, as depicted here.
USC Digital


Apparently, Hotel management was on the right side of national politics given the broad support for Eisenhower.
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Three photographs of the Wilshire Country Club in 1931.


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Below: In this one you can faintly make out the Hollywoodland Sign.


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Mae West lived on the top floor of one these apartment buildings (I can't remember which one exactly).
Perhaps one of you know some of the history these wonderful buildings in Hancock Park.

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Baron Long (1883-1962)

As a follow-up on eminent Hoosier Baron Long I thought I'd mention that his Venice outpost (which I referenced in the previous post) was the 1905 Ship Cafe at Venice Pier, which Long bought in 1917 (I'm not sure how long he owned it). It was built to resemble Juan Cabrillo's San Salvador:


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e_r had a great post on Jean Malin's time at The Ship and untimely death in 1933 (he accidentally drove off the pier).

LAboomer52 followed up with a post with many pix of The Ship, including the rebuilt version.

Also in the late teens Baron Long opened The Tavern jazz club and cabaret in Watts at 108th St and Central. Jelly Roll Morton and other greats were regular headliners.

I first heard of Baron Long in reference to his fabulous, absolutely first-class Agua Caliente resort, casino and racetrack just south of Tijuana. In 1927 Long hired 19-year-old, self-trained draftsman Wayne McAllister to design the resort. The budget was $10 million dollars. McAllister and his future wife Corinne Fuller really came through for Long, the design was universally praised. Agua Caliente opened two months after the stock market crash, but did a roaring business anyway. Rita Hayworth was discovered while working there.

Baron Long used to commute from LA to Agua Caliente on his yacht. That's his wife Martha on the left. They were married 50 years, from 1912 until his death in 1962:

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Long used the McAllisters again after he bought the Biltmore Hotel in 1933. He had them add the Biltmore Bowl and also add a bar to each guest floor.

Biltmore employees partying in the Biltmore Bowl, an annual event:

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Baron Long died in 1962 in his rooms at his beloved Biltmore Hotel.


Baron Long's Biltmore in the 1930s:

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(Most of this info came from this link, "On the Trail of the Elusive Baron Long" by Leslie Evans. There's more. If you have any interest, it's well worth a look. Also good is "How the LA Times After a Hundred-Year Love Affair with the City of Vernon Decided It Really Hated the Place All Along", also by Leslie Evans. It's here.)

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Old Posted Oct 5, 2015, 11:04 PM
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Here's the hotel marquee just a couple weeks ago. Definitely 'Olive' though I don't know any of it's in working order right now.

L1280552x.JPG Matt Maxwell, on Flickr
Thanks for this Matt.

I've been looking for a good vintage photograph of the Hotel Olive but haven't had much luck.

I realize it probably had various names over the years (and we've probably discussed them on NLA); but I don't recall the names.
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Thanks for this Matt.

I've been looking for a good vintage photograph of the Hotel Olive but haven't had much luck.

I realize it probably had various names over the years (and we've probably discussed them on NLA); but I don't recall the names.
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It was the Hotel Rookwood:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22525

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=22572

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I'd never heard of Baron Long or the Vernon Country Club . . . thanks T2 and er!
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The Hotel Olive



Urban Diachrony also covered John Parkinson's 1904 Rookwood/Olive Hotel with a 1923-2011 'Then & Now'.


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Thank you FW for that great post on W 8th & Olive. I enjoyed seeing that again.

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Baron Long had the McAllisters add the Biltmore Bowl and also a bar to each floor.
This is interesting t2. I never knew the Biltmore had a bar on every floor.
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Probably not now. The guest floors have been extensively remodeled twice in recent decades. But it was true in Baron Long's 30 year run there.
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Another Baron Long colleague was fight-promoter Jack Doyle who built the Central Saloon in Vernon (at Santa Fe and Joy) in 1910. It had a 100-foot bar and 37 bartenders.
tovanger2, earlier this evening I happened across two interesting (and no doubt rare) postcards showing Jack Doyle's Training Camp in Vernon.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Postcard-Cot...item4d3686e565

I believe that's Doyle chomping on a cigar in the oval inset, while a group of boxers pose in front of a cottage at the Vernon training camp.





Lo and behold, I also found this postcard that shows the interior of the cottage. (postmarked 1915)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/B1752-1915-P...item51d6e35199

Pretty cool huh!

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Thanks so much for the information on the Hotel Rookwood/Hotel Olive Flyingwedge and t2. I appreciate it.

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Jack Doyle



Thx!

In 1924, Jack Doyle (here without the cigar), with the help of the Los Angeles Olympic Committee for the 1932 Games, built the Grand Olympic Auditorium and ran the place as the fight-promoter from 1927 until about 1942:


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More on Doyle:
"A Teetotaler's Bar and Boxing Mecca" by Cecilia Rasmussen for LAT

Doyle died in 1944, aged 66, in Santa Monica.

The house that Jack built:

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A screengrab of the interior (William Holden in "The Turning Point", 1952):
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[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7187703]tovanger2, earlier this evening I happened across two interesting (and no doubt rare) postcards showing Jack Doyle's Training Camp in Vernon.

Lo and behold, I also found this postcard that shows the interior of the cottage. (postmarked 1915)


http://www.ebay.com/itm/B1752-1915-P...item51d6e35199

Pretty cool huh!

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QUOTE]

I think that full body portrait on the side wall is poor Ad Wolgast. On the back wall it looks like Johnny Kilbane, who won the World Featherweight title at Vernon in 1912 (and kept it until 1923).

Ad (LOC)

Johnny, winning at Vernon (old file)


A little bit about Doyle and Vernon/Olympic
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I think that full body portrait on the side wall is poor Ad Wolgast.
I'll say. Poor Ad Wolgast. I'm glad Doyle was decent to him
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I've been looking for a good vintage photograph of the Hotel Olive but haven't had much luck.
Not quite what you were after, but here are a couple of night shots of the corner of 8th and Olive. They are grabs from a 1946 color film I've linked to before (you can watch it here). The first shows the Olive Street side. The neon on the right belongs to the Crown Grill Jewel Room at 754 S Olive. Shortly before this, the camera car drives past Clifton's Pacific Seas Cafeteria.



I think there's also a crown on the right of this shot of the 8th Street side. The 1956 CD lists 427 W 8th as Lou Silver's Crown Grill Restaurant. The blade sign on the corner appears to say "FEDER'S", which I can't find in the City Directories. The camera car continues on past the Bristol Hotel and Golden Gopher.



Both from archive.org
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That's exactly what I was looking for Hoss!

I was confused until I saw your screengrab and that nifty entrance with the crown.

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Second door over was the 754 S.Olive St. entrance to the so popular Crown Jewel two floor gay bar in the 50s-- a dressy spot unlike all other downtown spots.


When rick m said "second door over" I thought he meant from that small gray door, placing the Crown Jewel entrance in the small hotel entrance at the edge of the building.
(I wasn't even considering the 'white square')
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Newly restored 1916 film footage reveals a heavenly Pershing Square


In 1916, pioneering female film director Lois Weber shot on location in Pershing Square (then known as Central Park) for her hit feature Shoes, about a downtown LA shop assistant who sells her virtue for a new pair of boots. There is only one surviving copy of the film, recently restored by EYE Filmmuseum in Amsterdam. EYE has kindly granted permission to use the Pershing Square footage in the grassroots campaign to restore the park to its 1910 appearance.

With the release of this footage, The Pershing Square Restoration Society is delighted to announce that an updated version of John Parkinson's classic 1910 park will be entered in the Pershing Square Renew design competition by SRK Architects, Inc.

If you like the idea of this beautiful park coming back, please sign the petition and we'll keep you informed as the design competition unfolds.

The footage actually made us cry. We've all seen Parkinson's park in photos and postcards, but to actually watch young and old people moving through the space in real time, while the fountain flows and the palm fronds wiggle--it is a revelation! So yes, because we know you want it: in addition to short clip used in the Restore Pershing Square promo clip, the full scene is also online as bonus footage. Oddly, YouTube assigned a URL that includes the sequence "SqGR8." Can it again be a Square that's Great? We think so--join us!
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We've seen this building numerous times on NLA. Today it's a post office and the Christian Science reading room is a small coffee shop.


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notice how the bargain place and are actually in the same building.


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Today, that the first row of windows are covered up now, but if you look closely you can see the top of the old building above the coffee shop façade.


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Any idea what this is above the post office?


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I'm off to visit my Mom for a couple days. Hold down the fort noirishers.
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M. Meghrig and Sons in the old Kress building



"Been in business since 1936. Oldest coin & stamp supply company in the USA. Same family owned & operated for over 78 years. Wholesale distributor of all major philatelic & numismatic supplies. Manufacturer of the original NUMIS brand square coin tubes, MEGHRIG brand generic archival & soft vinyl 2x2 flips. Call us today TOLL-FREE at 1-888-854-7850 for all your coin & stamp supply needs."
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Not quite what you were after, but here are a couple of night shots of the corner of 8th and Olive. They are grabs from a 1946 color film I've linked to before (you can watch it here). The first shows the Olive Street side. The neon on the right belongs to the Crown Grill Jewel Room at 754 S Olive. Shortly before this, the camera car drives past Clifton's Pacific Seas Cafeteria.



I think there's also a crown on the right of this shot of the 8th Street side. The 1956 CD lists 427 W 8th as Lou Silver's Crown Grill Restaurant. The blade sign on the corner appears to say "FEDER'S", which I can't find in the City Directories. The camera car continues on past the Bristol Hotel and Golden Gopher.



Both from archive.org

HossC,
Feder's was and is an appliance and air conditioning chain. Look just above the windows (below the Feder's script logo) and what I believe to be the word Appliance is visible. I will down load the photo this afternoon and lighten it in the hopes of verifying my observation.

Cheers,
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"Easy Street" (1917)

I should have known. John Bengtson covers the Olvera Street and LA City Water Company locations in his book "Silent Traces: Discovering Early Hollywood Through the Films of Charlie Chaplin " (I'd only looked at his website):



He doesn't explain the changes to the water company building, but covers everything else:




copyright john bengtson

The above pages may be found here

Note that Bengtson says that after the LA City Water Company moved to larger quarters, the building became the shop of F. See On. I didn't know that.

Also, Historic Los Angeles Theaters notes that the 1894 City Directory lists a "Chinese Theater" on Marchessault St. near Alameda. That may have been in the old LA City Water Company building (I don't know when the water company moved out).


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Thanks for the info about Feder's, Wig-Wag. I think you're right about the word under the script being "APPLIANCE" - I originally thought it was two short words.


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I think this is going to have to be my last Julius Shulman/Bank of America post for the time being (until I find more photos). I've spent nearly seven weeks posting one a day from almost 50 locations, and I'm going to miss them. At least there is still plenty of Julius Shulman's work to look through, and I already have my next post planned.

We've already visited this location (6551 Van Nuys Boulevard) about a month ago in post #30901. That time I posted the original bank building as it appeared in 1952. My research uncovered demolition and new building permits from 1966, so I thought it was worth including these 1968 photos from when the replacement building was nearly new. This is "Job 4294: Bank of America (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1968".



This straight-on shot shows the colorful mural on the front.



I particularly like this illuminated shot which shows the lower façade before it was hidden by the newly planted bushes.



All from Getty Research Institute

Here's a reminder of how the bank looks today.


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