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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 5:03 PM
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Scott Charles, you did an excellent job removing the 'watermark' on the Broadway Tunnel / Hall of Justice photograph.
Years ago a fellow noirisher was removing 'watermarks' for us, but was told to stop. I don't recall who dropped the hammer. It might have been a ebay seller. (?)
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I didn't think the seller would mind in this case, since my post came after he had already sold the picture... but if it's considered bad form to remove watermarks, I'll stop doing it.
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E_R, as creator of this forum thread are you officially saying you don't want posters to remove watermarks?

The only instance of what you mentioned that I remember of this on NLA is when there were a series of great Kodachrome photos being posted with the green embitt scan across them and _______*_ had removed a few of those watermarks and he related that the seller had notified him not to do it.

*I know who it is but not sure I should say.

Anyway, it makes me wonder, are there internet rules about removing watermarks? I know eBay sellers do it as they're selling things that otherwise might not sell without those watermarks, but a lot of what they're selling gets sold and never seen again, so removing them after they're sold? Problem? I don't know.

Selfishly, I love whenever someone removes watermarks on photos I like, but I'd also rather see a photo with one than not see it at all.
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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 5:06 PM
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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 6:16 PM
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mystery park, Inglewood CA.



"It is that little Japanese Park down in front of the high school." (this was written on the back of the postcard, shown above)



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My guess is that it's Edward Vincent Jr. Park(formerly Centinela Park) north of the cemetery.
It's the right shape with a main street(Florence) on the left and houses on the right and Centinela Spring is in the park that would provide the water.
It could be BillinGlendaleCA.


Edward Vincent Jr. Park


google earth

I guess it depends on where the high school was located in 1915.


If the 1915 location was the same as the present day Inglewood High School.. I thought, perhaps, the Japanese Park was located where the City of Inglewood eventually built their library.


outlined in red

google earth



Inglewood High School [shown in 1929]


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If the Japanese Park was where I think it might have been, it would be just out of view on the right. (the street is Manchester Blvd.)



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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 7:07 PM
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Here we go, e_r:


LA Times of 12/19/1912 via ProQuest via CSULB Library
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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 7:18 PM
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Thanks odinthor! Great find.

That's a really interesting article but it doesn't include the location of Section #5, the Japanese Garden. (or any of the other sections)


but it comes close...


Now, all we have to do is find an old map of Inglewood. (get at it minions!)




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E_R, as creator of this forum thread are you officially saying you don't want posters to remove watermarks?

The only instance of what you mentioned that I remember of this on NLA is when there were a series of great Kodachrome photos being posted with the green embitt scan across them and _______*_ had removed a few of those watermarks and he related that the seller had notified him not to do it.

*I know who it is but not sure I should say.

Anyway, it makes me wonder, are there internet rules about removing watermarks? I know eBay sellers do it as they're selling things that otherwise might not sell without those watermarks, but a lot of what they're selling gets sold and never seen again, so removing them after they're sold? Problem? I don't know.

Selfishly, I love whenever someone removes watermarks on photos I like, but I'd also rather see a photo with one than not see it at all.
I agree with everything you said, Martin... especially your last sentence.
The situation you mentioned was the one I was referring to. (as far as I know it's the only time it has happened)


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E_R, as creator of this forum thread are you officially saying you don't want posters to remove watermarks?
No, I am not but I thought I should inform Scott Charles what had happened in the past.
(I don't believe Ebay sellers could legally stop a person from removing their nonbinding watermarks)

The Ebay seller(s) should take into consideration how many potential buyers we send their way.

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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 8:02 PM
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Okay, thanks E_R.

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The Ebay seller(s) should take into consideration how many potential buyers we send their way.
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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 8:25 PM
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Happy May 14th, Los Angeles Noirishers! (Or is it Norishians? Noirites?)

On May 14th, 1874, notorious bandido Tiburcio Vasquez was captured at the adobe home of "Greek George" Caralambo, near where Melrose Place in West Hollywood is now situated.




[source: wikimedia]

Vasquez Rocks Park, one of Hollywood's favorite locations for outdoor filming over several decades, is so named because Tiburcio Vasquez often used the area to avoid capture by law enforcement.

On May 14, 1904, Sunset Boulevard opened.


[source: USC Digital Library]

The Los Angeles Herald enthused:
“Los Angeles and Hollywood united yesterday in celebration of the opening of Sunset boulevard and its adjacent systems. The splendid highway was inspected by nearly 2,000 Los Angeles people, who proceeded to Hollywood in vehicles of every sort, ranging in design from a high-geared automobile to a goat cart."
On May 14, 1935, Griffith Observatory was formally opened with a ceremony for 500 invited guests.


[source: UCLA digital library]


There's a nifty little history of the observatory here.

Did I miss any May 14th events related to Los Angeles?
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Thanks odinthor! Great find.

That's a really interesting article but it doesn't include the location of Section #5, the Japanese Garden. (or any of the other sections)


but it comes close...


Now, all we have to do is find an old map of Inglewood. (get at it minions!)

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This may help in finding the specific location (or may not):


Los Angeles Times via ProQuest via CSULB Library

So Grevillea Avenue is also implicated!
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Old Posted May 14, 2019, 11:31 PM
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The address of Inglewood High School is 231 S. Grevillea Ave. This would line up with the inscription "It is that little Japanese Park down in front of the high school."
I apologize for not being able to square up the photo but this UCSB aerial from 1934 shows Grevillea running upwards from bottom center, slanting from left to right. What may be the Grevillea Avenue Park System is across from the entrance to the high school and possibly four sections plus a part of the fifth are visible here.


http://mil.library.ucsb.edu/ap_indexes/FrameFinder/

Another 1934 UCSB image, this one cropped better but again showing how my lack of computer graphics skills leave me unable to partially rotate the image. The five sections clearly visible here.



On a side note, it appears that in 1934 Inglewood High School had an on-campus football field. For many years they have played their games at Coleman Stadium, formally known as Centinel Field a few blocks away. The band's marches to and from the games are spectacular.

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Japanese Garden in Inglewood

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The address of Inglewood High School is 231 S. Grevillea Ave. This would line up with the inscription "It is that little Japanese Park down in front of the high school."
I apologize for not being able to square up the photo but this UCSB aerial from 1934 shows Grevillea running upwards from bottom center, slanting from left to right.
What may be the Grevillea Avenue Park System is across from the entrance to the high school and possibly four sections plus a part of the fifth are visible here.


http://mil.library.ucsb.edu/ap_indexes/FrameFinder/


Yes, this is definitely where the Japanese Park was. Unfortunately, kids ruined it. Below, Redondo Blvd. is now Florence Ave./Aviation Blvd., IIRC:






I believe the top photo looks southwest, and the bottom photo looks south:



Top photo caption: Another view of the High School plant, showing the rose garden in the parkway.

Bottom photo caption: The Japanese gardens in Grevillea parkway directly in front of the high school. These were later destroyed to make way for lawns.


All images above are from History of Inglewood by Roy Rosenberg (Arthur H. Cawston, 1938) @ Hathitrust.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...eq=36;size=200

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...eq=39;size=200

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...eq=69;size=200

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Old Posted May 15, 2019, 4:33 PM
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So Grevillea Avenue is also implicated!
Aha! Grevillea turned out to be the key. Good sleuthing odinthor , . Bristolian and Flyingwedge.



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Unfortunately, kids ruined it.

They should have used bigger rocks.

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Along with the rock and student (those rascals) problems, I think some of the structures in the park (although cute and rustic) were not built to stand
the test of time and weather. The larger bridge in the background looked to be pretty substantial, but the small bridge and the covered structure seem
to be a little rickety. I think after fifteen or twenty years, things would have started looking pretty shabby, even without the aid of the students. Building
right across the street from a school also probably hurried along the deterioration process.
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In the distance appears to be the Rose Garden.
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Here's a slightly earlier view from 1927, but still no sign of the Japanese Garden.


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In the distance appears to be the Rose Garden.
Good eye odinthor. I should have put 2 & 2 together.




DO NOT THROW ROCKS sign?


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Old Posted May 15, 2019, 10:10 PM
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"Cocktail Party at Gordon's for Frank & Gert, Park La Brea Apartments." [1940s]


Ebay...Formerly owned by Tom McNair.

I am guessing Frank & Gert are the couple- center, front. (Gert is the only woman wearing a corsage) .......Not sure what Frank is looking at.



There's one in every crowd.

The guy in the back has grabbed a lampshade.



Asking: ...$79.99

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Hope we have't seen this exact view of the Brew 102 plant before

Looking north?


http://www.pinterest.com/pin/4898368...28880/?lp=true

Closer view:


http://www.pinterest.com/pin/4898368...28880/?lp=true

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Claire & Clio Turn Up In The Most Unexpected Places.



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Claire & Clio on the steps of the old Methodist Church.....



Ebay........................................................................................................................................................................................"Now the Paramount Theatre" (the theater has been torn down as well)






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