LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0 - Page 504

112597jorge · #**10061** Posted **Feb 13, 2021, 3:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by BaldwinDPB

Downsizing again?
How come the 755 Figueroa / Brookfield Building got downsized? I thought the 64 story building was suppose to be at least 695 feet tall. But the renderings have it now at 655 feet tall.

CTBUH has it at over 700 ft, taller than 777 tower

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/bui...h-street/30298

Zapatan · #**10062** Posted **Feb 13, 2021, 3:12 AM**

The Civic Center Master Plan looks amazing and would be great for that (kinda crummy) area.

Good news about Onni's tower too, looks about 600'

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CTBUH has it at over 700 ft, taller than 777 tower

We've heard 695' and 735', 695' aligns with the rendering more though.

Niftybox · #**10063** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 7:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

We've heard 695' and 735', 695' aligns with the rendering more though.

I'm still amazed they went with the design...

I sure hope this render is an exaggeration.

I'm also curious what project those towers in the background are for.

BaldwinDPB · #**10064** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 8:53 AM**

I think that is the existing Metropolis buildings.

WonderlandPark2 · #**10065** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 4:02 PM**

This is from the architect's website, and it looks closest to the 695ft height that seems to be the most commonly used for this tower, just a bit shy of the 725ft of the 777 Fig tower.

Doctorboffin · #**10066** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 4:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by WonderlandPark2

This is from the architect's website, and it looks closest to the 695ft height that seems to be the most commonly used for this tower, just a bit shy of the 725ft of the 777 Fig tower.

The height depends on where you start measuring it from. It’s 695 in terms of total height, from 8th street to top. However it is 655 from the 7th street side. For whatever reason that’s what the moderators decided to mark it as.

scania · #**10067** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 5:42 PM**

Some on here just don’t get it...this is going to be an amazing addition not just to the area, but it will enhance the skyline. More so than The Grand. I said in the beginning that The Grand was going to be very cool. I think some of you are starting to see that come to fruition.

Doctorboffin · #**10068** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by scania

Some on here just don’t get it...this is going to be an amazing addition not just to the area, but it will enhance the skyline. More so than The Grand. I said in the beginning that The Grand was going to be very cool. I think some of you are starting to see that come to fruition.

Totally agree. I also think if it turns out like the renders, it will be a great-looking tower. It is much more refined than the Vancouver-lite towers in South Park.

Zapatan · #**10069** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Doctorboffin

The height depends on where you start measuring it from. It’s 695 in terms of total height, from 8th street to top. However it is 655 from the 7th street side. For whatever reason that’s what the moderators decided to mark it as.

Generally highest measurement is the official one (i.e. 695)

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I'm still amazed they went with the design...

I think once built it will surprise

Quixote · #**10070** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Doctorboffin

Totally agree. I also think if it turns out like the renders, it will be a great-looking tower. It is much more refined than the Vancouver-lite towers in South Park.

Marmol Radziner and LARGE have great portfolios, so this should turn out better than what the renderings portray if anything. I'm not a fan of the podium or the driveway entrance facing 7th Street, but the height is good.

hughfb3 · #**10071** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 8:25 PM**

and here it is 2/15. The structure is at Plaza level and the core is above plaza level at a height around the 4th floor of 777 Tower

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As you can also see in the last picture, the core looks to be taller than the parking garage across 8th street

Niftybox · #**10072** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 9:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by scania

Some on here just don’t get it...this is going to be an amazing addition not just to the area, but it will enhance the skyline. More so than The Grand. I said in the beginning that The Grand was going to be very cool. I think some of you are starting to see that come to fruition.

I respectfully disagree, I actually think a shorter tower would have done more for the skyline. Skylines (to me) look best with noticeable height variation and LA's downtown has a prominence surplus that this tower will add to. Perhaps I'm over thinking this, but that aerial render is very close to reality.

badrunner · #**10073** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 10:23 PM**

LA already has a very "shapely" skyline from most angles. What it needs is massing to beef it up some, and this tower fits the bill nicely.

NYC2ATX · #**10074** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 11:46 PM**

I am firmly in the "this will be great" camp. Not only is this really one of the taller towers to break ground in the last decade, periodt, but one can not understate the impact of this on the 110 canyon. Love it or hate it, the 110 Freeway corridor through DTLA is one of the more iconic perspectives of this city, and even if the traffic you're in is crawling, driving down it is a quintessential LA experience.

Zapatan · #**10075** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 11:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYC2ATX

I am firmly in the "this will be great" camp. Not only is this really one of the taller towers to break ground in the last decade, periodt, but one can not understate the impact of this on the 110 canyon. Love it or hate it, the 110 Freeway corridor through DTLA is one of the more iconic perspectives of this city, and even if the traffic you're in is crawling, driving down it is a quintessential LA experience.

Agreed, also a huge bonus there's another 500+ rising on the other side of 777

Niftybox · #**10076** Posted **Feb 16, 2021, 11:58 PM**

I would agree with you all if this tower didn't 'hide' 777 from the freeway, so it just creates a replacement building from that angle. LA's skyline needs length not mass, because that's the main thing going for it right now. I also maintain that long skylines look better than crowded radial skylines, they tend to make it higher on 'best skyline' lists. And yeah, I know eventually LA will fill out and have the best of both worlds but that's further away.

The problem lies in LA's prominence, it is quite dense with high rises but the massive buildings make those reasonable high rises 'invisible'. If you removed LA's 10 tallest/biggest buildings the skyline would appear much more crowded and somewhat 'more impressive', from photographs at least, not as much in person. So LA's skyline is a line of very tall massive buildings that stand out, and a bunch of insignificant towers surrounding them that don't make any impact that normally would for a skyline. So what we require is tall massive buildings going down the line, or at least tapering off on the ends and beginning a new line of huge towers juxtaposing that line from the core of DTLA, like a + sign, then it can fill out from there. I feel like Brookfield just makes this skyline even more prominent, and in doing so, sealing its fate as too heavy for its own good, if that makes sense.

hughfb3 · #**10077** Posted **Feb 17, 2021, 3:10 AM**

777 tower’s most prominent viewpoint is from the south and west. This new residential building has a podium extending on the south side giving space for 777 Tower. Look at the rendering below showing the old Metropolis designs in the background.

Los Angeles city code no longer allows for significant blockages of view points on tall buildings in this close a proximity; which is why the other 8th and fig tower by Mitsui Fudosan is oddly in the center of its podium (mid-block) rather than on the corner, so as to not block 777 towers air rights. And if you look at the shape of the lot on an aerial google map, you will also see that the angle of 7th street also doesn’t allow the residential building to block the Ernst & Young tower

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Quixote · #**10078** Posted **Feb 17, 2021, 4:37 AM**

So much obsession over the impact on the skyline. How about the impact at street level? Or that it will bring 784 new units to a site that's very close to transit?

Niftybox · #**10079** Posted **Feb 17, 2021, 5:44 AM**

I apologize for being negative, I am just countering why I feel it might not be as good as hope.

I am still very excited to see what the future holds in our city, many changes are coming and by 5 year it should look noticeably different.

CaliNative · #**10080** Posted **Feb 17, 2021, 8:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by hughfb3

and here it is 2/15. The structure is at Plaza level and the core is above plaza level at a height around the 4th floor of 777 Tower

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As you can also see in the last picture, the core looks to be taller than the parking garage across 8th street

Will be impressive addition to skyline. Top out by end of year perhaps? Any estimates? Hopefully by then worst of covid will be behind us and activity will return to DTLA. The next 7 years leading up to the Olympics will be exciting--let the Roaring (20)20s begin!