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Old Posted May 18, 2017, 6:24 PM
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I ventured to the new Marshalls/Homesense at KP on Tuesday. It is very nice indeed.

I was driving home from the Marshalls near Polo Park yesterday and spotted one of the property managers from Shindico outside the empty Target Store with a clipboard and three guys.
Shindico: So how do you think we can implode this monster for minimal cost?

In terms of Cineplex, it seems inevitable that Winnipeg will eventually get a Rec Room, aka what they are opening in the Square One Target space. Rec Room would be a great anchor on the stadium site for turning it into a hospitality/entertainment district. Say add a Lucky Stirke, Cheesecake Factory, Shake Shack and some other concepts that are new to market and likely to be only in market. In terms of Rec Room I picture it more on the southwest corner of the lot instead of the Target space, perhaps with a pedestrian bridge to the Scotiabank theater.
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Old Posted May 18, 2017, 6:31 PM
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Shindico: So how do you think we can implode this monster for minimal cost?
Well, it is a store purpose-built for a company that no longer exists, so I'm sure some thought has been given to that. Hard to blame them... it's not the most universally adaptable big box store around.
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Old Posted May 18, 2017, 7:23 PM
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The big challenges with the Target store at Polo Park is that it is a second floor store built on stilts so you can't just build a wall in the middle of the space. It also has a single loading dock and entrance from ground level, on opposite corners of the building. That means if they split the space, half would have no entrance and half would not have a loading dock. In terms of the space as a whole there really is no one actively looking in the market for a store that size. Most of the interest in lease acquisitions is about one third the size of the Target location. You could in theory build a new entrance about 1/3 of the store from the west then split it into west, middle and east spaces. The east space would use the former Target entrance. That said, my general rule on commercial real estate is you don't start construction until someone has signed on to lease the space.
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Old Posted May 19, 2017, 4:52 PM
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wow the lennard taylor space on mcdermot that will be vacated has allready found a tenit as lenard taylor moves to a bigger space down the st
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Do you know who is taking the space; where LT is moving to?
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Old Posted May 19, 2017, 6:42 PM
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Do you know who is taking the space; where LT is moving to?
friday knights another clothing shop.


lenards moving to where the game shop was
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Great!
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Old Posted May 19, 2017, 8:33 PM
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After seeing other Saks Off Fifth pics, I'll withdraw my opinion about their store design. Comes with the territory.

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Except for about 12 of the current OCW stores, this facility is in no way a pure Outlet Mall. I expressed my opinion on Facebook and immediately received a personal email from the Guest Services Manager to speak with her directly.

I agree with your assessment. I found good deals at Under Armour, Calvin Klein and Tommy Hilfiger. The design of a few of them indicates to me that they are but fillers until "real" outlet retailers move in. Case in point, Laura which advertises as low as 80% off. I found one item at this price point and it was probably two years+ old. The store had a cement floor, no wall coverings, dim lighting, a long portable cash desk and racks and racks of clothing that had not sold in the regular price stores offered at the same price points. There was also no indication of where the Petite Section was or the Plus Section and their computer system was down, thus accepting Cash Only transactions. I walked in. I walked out.

Off 5th is extremely disappointing. I had this conversation with the Guest Services Manager. I really liked the Eagan Off 5th in Minnesota. I envisioned our Off 5th to be the same and when I walked into it on Opening Day, it was immediately evident that this was in no way similar. Hopefully, in time, the OCW will realize that just by telling consumers that this is Winnipeg's First Fashion Outlet Mall, that Winnipeggers will believe them. Once the novelty wears off, I would hope that the retailers that are filling space will fold and be replaced by real outlets.

It puzzles me as to why our stores are not the stores listed in the Outlet Collection Niagara Directory. There are 16 that should be here. Ivanhoe Cambridge should have done a bit more research on Winnipeggers shopping habits before deciding to dupe us into thinking they are offering outlet shopping.

The parking is a nightmare for working folks with limited leisure time.

So, list members, voice your suggestions and opinions directly to the powers that be at OCW. I doubt whether they read all the blogs and reviews on line. Go directly to the source.
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^ Damn. If that's the case, then it looks like CoryB was right.

But even if we got a "faux" outlet mall, the place appears to be packed regardless, with Ivanhoe Cambridge laughing all the way to the bank.
Ok, I'm late to the party but the bolded gets me... I like an outlet mall visit once in a while, and that there are "outlet people" who live for this is a new revelation to me, but from what basis can we Winnipeggers pull such a puritan's attitude from?

I've been to bigger malls, I've been to worse, and this one is well executed. Nobody FAILED here at all! How entitled are we to complain so soon? We sound like the bitter significant other that always wants a new house, finally gets one, and it's not as big as the ones we've seen in Beverly Hills.


Some thoughts:

Nobody is "duped" here. IC didn't "trick" us with "lesser stores" and "laugh all the way to the bank".

They only make MORE money by getting the "truer" stores, as these generate more interest and increase traffic, and allow them to negotiate better rents. They simply did the very best they could manage. Blame the chains for playing hardball "because it's Winnipeg", not IC.

Some stores are fillers... good! IC should make money in the meantime otherwise the mall dies! They can't attract new tenants if the mall is empty, they want a full mall and a waiting list of tenants eager to get in! If they can't fill it with A-list spots, add some B's and work on more A's down the road.

Call me a cynic, but I can understand if someone refuses to consider a Porsche SUV "a true Porsche", but to do the same to a well executed new mall just seems a little weird.


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Saks off 5th..SO I have heard it is not high end enough for some and too high end for some Manitobans. You can never win here.

People want Holt Renfrew quality along with Eaton's service and displays, and let us not forget COSTCO PRICING!
My issue is they have not much in a larger size for men like shirts pants etc...and no shoes for men past size 11.
The manager explained they all sold out in a couple of days of opening and more will arrive soon.
The place just opened and the manager tells me they are understocked and selling lots of high end mens suits and ladies handbags and shoes, more than head office expected and will add more to the assortment. Give things a chance people.
I was hoping to get those $600 shoes for $300, not the $250 for $125. I don't think even cheap Winnipeggers would consider this Saks too upmarket, because it's more upper-midmarket, I think.
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