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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 5:34 PM
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Cook County........ 5,288,655
DeKalb County........ 100,139
DuPage County........ 932,670
Grundy County........ 45,828
Kane County........ 493,735
Kankakee County........ 109,090
Kendall County........ 88,158
Lake County........ 713,076
McHenry County........ 312,373
Will County........ 668,217
Kenosha County........ 162,001
Lake County........ 494,202
LaPorte County........ 110,479
Porter County........ 160,105
Jasper County........ 32,296
Newton County........ 14,293

Chicagoland: 9,725,317

Growth of 412,763, although it would be been exactly 500,000 if they didn't predict Cook County to lose so many people.
Are Jasper and Newton counties really in Chicago metro?
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 5:41 PM
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No, I think I had a list of the CSA counties...you know how crazy those get. Also Kankakee in IL and LaPorte in Indiana.

So just Metro:

9,459,159
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 5:44 PM
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And since I'm addicted to my home state:

Des Moines CSA: 604,626
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 5:46 PM
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Los Angeles County it appears is anyone's guess...
Census Estimate 9,948,081
California State Dept of Finance Estimate 10,292,723
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 5:52 PM
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Minneapolis - St. Paul MSA

County / 2000 Census / 2006 Estimate / 2000 - 06 Change

Anoka County / 298,084 / 327,005 / 28,921
Carver County / 70,205 / 87,545 / 17,340
Dakota County / 355,904 / 388,001 / 32,097
Hennepin County / 1,116,200 / 1,122,093 / 5,893
Ramsey County / 511,035 / 493,215 / -17,820
Scott County / 89,498 / 124,092 / 34,594
Washington County / 201,130 / 225,000 / 23,870
Chisago County / 41,101 / 50,344 / 9,243
Isanti County / 31,287 / 38,576 / 7,289
Sherburne County / 64,417 / 84,995 / 20,578
Wright County / 89,986 / 114,787 / 24,801
Pierce County / 36,804 39,373 / 25,69
St. Croix County / 63,155 / 80,015 / 16,860

Minneapolis - St. Paul MSA / 2,968,806 / 3,175,041 / 206,235
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 6:00 PM
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Minneapolis - St. Paul CSA 3,271,888 / 3,502,891 / 231,003
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 6:47 PM
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according to the estimates the Miami Metro is now 5.46 Million adding only 39K people. The state is projected to have gained 322k with Lee County (Fort Myers) topping the list with 27k. Pinellas (St. Pete) is on the bottom losing over 2,000 people.

Miami-Fort Lauderdale-Miami Beach MSA
Miami-Dade 2,402,208 24,483 (change since 2005 est)
Broward 1,787,636 5,620
Palm Beach 1,274,013 9,057
I dont see how they see Palm Beach's growth being so small. Have they seen the insane # of houses that are going up in western Palm Beach county the last few years? I would have assumed Palm Beach's pop growth would rival MD if not surpass it.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 7:09 PM
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Supposedly cook county is losing tons of people to surrounding chicagoland counties. I find this trend disturbing, if its true that is. Because the neighborhoods surrounding downtown are certainly growing, which means that much more people are leaving the other areas in chicago. Not good.

Even for the areas around downtown, they are developing with reasonably high household density but lower population density, i.e. it is alot of singles, couples, etc, not large families pack in like in the old days.
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Crawford, Atlanta is in the Piedmont region of the Appalachians, with an average elevation of about 1000 feet, and it has a far more desirable climate than most of the deep South as a result. Many folks prefer four distinct seasons, and Atlanta does not have the stifling heat of Texas or Florida (since "warmth" was one of your criteria citing those other locales). In fact, droves of folks from Florida (former northerners) are moving halfway back and settling in North Georgia and the Carolinas. This phenomenon is referred to as the "halfbacks". The Atlanta metro, and the City of Atlanta in particular, have seen rapidly declining crime for some time now, so your crime comment is ill-informed. Atlantan's are a short drive from either mountains or the beach. Golf?? plenty of that here too, Crawford, including several of the country's most celebrated courses. And, as is widely known, the Atlanta metro does indeed have one of the nation's most affluent, influential and thriving African American communities. Maybe your prior post seemed so filled with inaccuracies and generalities that the subsequent poster didn't even know where to start! But I digress...please let's get the thread back on track and discuss the new census pop. estimates.
Thanks for starting this thread, Steve, and for responding in a clear, articulate, and informed way. I couldn't have said it better.

It's always amazing to me how people can pass judgement on areas of the country so harshly when they have never even been there.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 7:25 PM
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Even for the areas around downtown, they are developing with reasonably high household density but lower population density, i.e. it is alot of singles, couples, etc, not large families pack in like in the old days.
Yep. It's important to remember just how crowded parts of Chicago were at the peak of it's population. I lived in Ukrainian village in the 90's and saw three flats with extended families of 5-8 people on each floor turned into condos with 1 or 2 people per floor. That's a loss of density, but it doesn't mean Chicago is stagnating in any way. I also don't know what % of growth in surrounding counties is due to people leaving Cook county, I'm sure some is due to that, but some of the growth has to be from people moving from other parts of the state or country.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 7:27 PM
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Sacramento metro: 2,228,863


Sacramento and Placer counties both gained 10,000 people in one year!

Hooray for sprawl!
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 7:46 PM
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I also don't know what % of growth in surrounding counties is due to people leaving Cook county, I'm sure some is due to that, but some of the growth has to be from people moving from other parts of the state or country.
Right, I also dont know at what % former cook county residents are contributing to counties like lake, dupage and will. I just saw on the news this morning, they were talking about the new census estimates, and seemed to infer that those leaving cook county were going to these outer burbs. Of course, llke people have said, all of these are just estimates anyway and no one knows for sure, but I just dont like to hear trends like that regardless.

Good points about the density decreases too though. Most of these new flats and condos do seem to be mostly getting filled with young couples and singles. Population decreases but not necessarily bad for the city.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 7:52 PM
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I'd agree that Atlanta has big cost advantages over places like California, but what about Atlanta's draw in cheaper places like Baltimore, Detroit, etc.? Yes, these cities have huge urban problems, but the suburbs of Detroit are no different from suburbs anywhere else and they are CHEAP with good schools and low congestion.

If you look at the data, Atlanta has very high crime and congestion numbers and below-average schools. At the same time, people are moving to Atlanta based on these criteria.
How is winter climate in Detroit? People move to Atlanta for various reasons. Climate is one of them.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 8:04 PM
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South Central PA:
Adams: 101,105
Cumberland: 226, 117
Dauphin: 254,176
Franklin: 139,991
Lancaster: 494,486
Lebanon: 126,883
Perry: 45,087
York:416,322

Total: 1,804,176

Of course South Central PA won't ever be one metro probably for some time. If anything, the only county we'd lose would be Franklin, to the DC metro.
I am forever shocked at just how slow South Central PA grows....population-wise that is. We all know it sprawls like the Dickens!

But yeah, regardless of all of the issues there, the location alone is why I am so confused as to why it isn't absolutely booming.
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Believe it or not, the quality of life here is pretty damn good. The bad crime is in areas most people not involved in drugs would never venture to - just like every major city. The terrain is beautiful, the mountains are only an hour away, the beach is only 5 - 7 hours away, we have four distinct seasons, one of the greatest restaurant scenes in the country, major league sports, one of the best coaster parks in the country, jobs, etc.

People move here for many reasons. The cheap exurban housing market is not the only one.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 9:04 PM
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Here's Seattle:

Seattle-Bellevue-Tacoma MSA: 3,263,497
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia CMSA: 3,876,211
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you guys should look more closely at the other data released by the census (i already knew about this stuff as it's part of my job):

here's the 100 fastest growing counties:
http://www.census.gov/popest/countie...ST2006-08.html
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2007, 9:33 PM
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you guys should look more closely at the other data released by the census (i already knew about this stuff as it's part of my job):

here's the 100 fastest growing counties:
http://www.census.gov/popest/countie...ST2006-08.html
yep, I was looking at that this morning. Four of the top 11 in Georgia, all metro Atlanta.
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Berks County, PA 396,236(2001) >> 401,149(2006)

Topping the 400,000 mark with the dignity and grace that defines greater Reading, Pennsylvania. I think some statistics are finally lumping in Reading with the blobbed orange Philly metro and some maps are finally connecting Philly with Reading along the 422 corridor (reading, exeter, birdsboro, amity, pottstown, royersford, collegeville, phoenixville and into King of Prussia. As much as I hate sprawl, I just love to see the Philly blob expand.
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Alameda County: 1,457,426
Contra Costa County: 1,024,319
Marin County: 248,742
Napa County: 133,522
San Francisco City and County: 744,041
San Mateo County: 705,499
Santa Clara County: 1,731,281
Santa Cruz County: 249,705
Solano County: 411,680
Sonoma County: 466,891

The Bay Area: 7,173,106

You all can butcher it up into several different metros if you like--I suggest breaking it up into three metropolitan areas: "The", "Bay", and "Area." Pick a random six-lane commercial boulevard and use it as a dividing line!
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