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I think thats true of most prairie cities. Edmonton being an older city has maybe one relatively established neighbourhood considered wealthy (despite having quite a few older areas) with the majority of McMansions being located in Windermere and St. Albert. Not sure about Winnipeg, Regina and Saskatoon but wouldn't be surprised if that were the case in those cities as well.
When I was thinking of replying to this thread I was following a similar line of thinking to yours, of the Prairies being interesting in that many of the rich areas are on the outskirts of the city, which is not really the case in the older cities.

But then I thought about it, and it's not a difference between the Prairies and the rest of the country, it's old money and new money. In Vancouver, old money is concentrated in Shaughnessy and West Vancouver, while new money is indeed also on the outskirts, in the mountains of Coquitlam and in greenfield South Surrey developments.

In Winnipeg, it seems the old money is also in the "inner city," in places like Wellington Crescent and Old Tuxedo, while new money is concentrated in the new suburbs in the south, like Linden Woods and Waverley West.
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In the GTA, York Region seems to be the home of a lot of new money.
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Old Posted Sep 23, 2017, 2:42 AM
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The link to the profile page is at:

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re...-tc.cfm?Lang=E


Data Tables can be found at:

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-re.../index-eng.cfm


I recommend using the 'IVT' file format.

You need to download 'Beyond 20/20 Table Browser' to work with IVT files.

You can download the browser via the Stats Can web page. It is 18.9 MB program that only works with Windows.

http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/datasets/...cfm?PID=109523

With the Beyond 20/20 you easily manipulate multi-dimension tables, and these files can copied into excel.
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When I was thinking of replying to this thread I was following a similar line of thinking to yours, of the Prairies being interesting in that many of the rich areas are on the outskirts of the city, which is not really the case in the older cities.

But then I thought about it, and it's not a difference between the Prairies and the rest of the country, it's old money and new money. In Vancouver, old money is concentrated in Shaughnessy and West Vancouver, while new money is indeed also on the outskirts, in the mountains of Coquitlam and in greenfield South Surrey developments.

In Winnipeg, it seems the old money is also in the "inner city," in places like Wellington Crescent and Old Tuxedo, while new money is concentrated in the new suburbs in the south, like Linden Woods and Waverley West.
I agree. I think it's just that there is a lot more old money located in Ontario and Quebec than in B.C. and Alberta for obvious reasons.
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I agree. I think it's just that there is a lot more old money located in Ontario and Quebec than in B.C. and Alberta for obvious reasons.
Definitely.
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Old Posted Sep 23, 2017, 4:33 PM
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Top Vancouver DAs:

59150934 (Tract 44, Belmont Ave.-Drummond Dr. area) $238,080
59150018 (Tract 132, Marine Dr.-Radcliffe Ave. area) $236,544
59153253 (Tract 21, Fir St.-Marpole Ave. area) $210,944
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Of the 20 tracts with a $200K+ median family income in the GTA, 14 are located in the Avenue Rd.-Yonge-Bayview corridor north of downtown. Secondary concentrations exist in the western suburbs: central Etobicoke and southeast Oakville.
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I can't figure out the census tract statistics - we're too minor for any site to have already done the analysis, and going through each individually is annoying - and they're not really that different within the City of St. John's.

Our neighbourhoods and postal codes and all of that, in the core city, are mixed. There are none that are just upper class. In fact, most of the upper class core neighbourhoods are broken up into several postal codes dominated by the lower class. It's a small city to begin with and, while just as segregated as anywhere else, the neighbourhoods generally were closer together. In the same way a city is surrounded by farmland, our upper class areas were quite small, often a single street or just a few major estates, and fan out into lower class areas. Our East End is peppered with West End, and vice versa.

So there's no measurement small enough to just highlight an upper class area of the core, which normally would be the best. There's one single house along Rennie's River near Bowring Park that's probably worth more than the rest of the island combined. But that'll never show up in stats.

So I am assuming an actual census tract measurement would have the suburbs with a much higher income than the core.

Logy Bay is probably the most likely to be on top, as that's where our extreme multi-multi-millionaires live.

But the new money upper class (Say $500,000 household income or above) also dominates other suburbs, like the Gardens area of Portugal Cove-St. Phillips and the Bishop's Gate area of Topsail.
Canadian Business magazine analyzed income and net-worth for various neighbourhoods in the province and published a top-five list. Not sure how they defined the neighbourhoods: could be by postal code or maybe census track.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/list...labrador-2014/

5. Churchill Park (net worth: 1.37 million)
4. Trafalger Square (1.34 million)
3. Virginia Lake (1.76 million)
2. Bannerman Park (2.01 million)
1. St. Patrick's Park (2.11 million)

You're right that a lot of neighbourhoods in the city are scattered with a mix of high and low income families. Those five neighbourhoods though are predominantly only high-income. Places like Logy Bay and St. Philips have a ton of million dollar homes, but for every mcmansion is a modest home so it averages out. I know there are zero houses I can ever afford in St. Pats or Bannerman Park, as much as I'd love one
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Median income of 340k.. jeez. That's nuts.
Not that nuts, dude. A lot of people make that good money like that.
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Not that nuts, dude. A lot of people make that good money like that.
As a household or family that's around the 98th percentile nationally. Obviously in a city as big as Toronto there's several CTs where incomes like that are common.
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Statscan released average incomes based on the 25% sample rather than taxfiler data. Here's the top GTA tracts for average or per capita income:

Tract 86 (North Rosedale) $419,676
Tract 266 (Hogg's Hollow) $331,626
Tract 264 (Bridle Path area) $318,137
Tract 130 (Forest Hill) $308,615
Tract 265 (Bayview-Lawrence area) $287,087
Tract 87 (South Rosedale) $277,684
Tract 89 (Yorkville) $269,374
Tract 125 (Moore Park) $261,800
Tract 119 (South Hill) $241,017
Tract 140 (Glencairn-Mona Dr. area) $231,594
Tract 602 (SE Oakville) $224,044
Tract 229 (Kingsway) $216,462
Tract 138 (Lawrence Park) $216,206
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Looking at the smaller dissimenation areas, a neighboring Forest Hill pocket (DA 35202933) has some astounding wealth.

While the median family income doesn't quite make the $500K mark, the upper 50% of the tract is extraordinarily wealthy (at least based on the 25% sample).

Average income (per capita) $1,013,494
Average HH income $2,340,310
Average family income $2,728,363

This area is centered around Dunvegan and Frybrook roads, and includes Upper Canada College in its borders.
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Not surprising if you've ever lived in the area: there's no apartment buildings just huge mansions.
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Not surprising if you've ever lived in the area: there's no apartment buildings just huge mansions.
I'm very familiar with the area having grown up around Bathurst and St. Clair. But I never lived in that particular pocket of FH!
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Top tracts ($150K+ average income per person) for Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary and Ottawa.

Toronto:

Tract 86 (North Rosedale) $419,676
Tract 266 (Hogg's Hollow) $331,626
Tract 264 (Bridle Path area) $318,137
Tract 130 (Forest Hill) $308,615
Tract 265 (Bayview-Lawrence area) $287,087
Tract 87 (South Rosedale) $277,684
Tract 89 (Yorkville) $269,374
Tract 125 (Moore Park) $261,800
Tract 119 (South Hill) $241,017
Tract 140 (Glencairn-Mona Dr. area) $231,594
Tract 602 (SE Oakville) $224,044
Tract 229 (Kingsway) $216,462
Tract 138 (Lawrence Park) $216,206
Tract 131 (Forest Hill) $194,096
Tract 139.02 (Lytton Park) $188,936
Tract 120 (Summerhill) $172,523
Tract 227 (Kingsway) $168,755
Tract 601 (SE Oakville) $167,361
Tract 14 (Financial District) $164,257
Tract 186 (Bennington Heights) $155,932

Montreal:

Tract 356 (Upper Westmount) $427,949
Tract 360 (Upper Outremont) $345,777
Tract 354 (Middle Westmount) $257,274
Tract 355 (Middle Westmount) $203,192

Vancouver:

Tract 132 (West Van - Altamont area) $216,959
Tract 21 (Shaughnessy) $155,707

Calgary:

Tract 200.06 (Springbank) $256,651
Tract 28 (Mount Royal) $254,823
Tract 200.05 (Springbank) $227,141
Tract 23 (Britannia) $156,446

Ottawa:

Tract 110 (Rockcliffe Park) $183,295

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