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Old Posted Jun 19, 2006, 4:31 AM
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It's not such a concern how ugly or beautiful the Bay-Adelaide centre may seem to you, because within 3 years it will be dwarfed by something a little taller and something which will even be visible from that spot way up on Highway 400 north of King Road (along with CN Tower and BMO building) ... that's right, Trump Tower.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2006, 5:56 AM
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It's not such a concern how ugly or beautiful the Bay-Adelaide centre may seem to you, because within 3 years it will be dwarfed by something a little taller and something which will even be visible from that spot way up on Highway 400 north of King Road (along with CN Tower and BMO building) ... that's right, Trump Tower.
Until I see shovels in the ground, I remain skeptical about it. From what I've heard, sales aren't doing so well.
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Until I see shovels in the ground, I remain skeptical about it. From what I've heard, sales aren't doing so well.
there is nothig to be skeptical about..its nicely over 70% sold...if they were ever planning on backing out do to financial interests then they would have done it already. Sales might not be doing well..but the fact that there are still sales with the tower this much sold pretty much gaurentees it will go up...the question is when.
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Old Posted Jun 19, 2006, 6:12 PM
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Whats the source for the 70% figure? Is it ALL units, or just 70% of the one type that were selling better.

I'm just a little skeptical, I've been on this forum a long time, and I remember when this tower was schedueled to start Fall 2004.
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Whats the source for the 70% figure? Is it ALL units, or just 70% of the one type that were selling better.

I'm just a little skeptical, I've been on this forum a long time, and I remember when this tower was schedueled to start Fall 2004.
It might have even been more then 70%, i cant remember exactly. Offcourse its going to take along time..Canada's tallest tower with all really expensive suits and hotel rooms..its not like hundreds of people are going to flock to it over night. If you go to the Trump Tower updates (sticky) on www.skyscrapercity.com there should be all the info available on the tower. Ill go looking through it when i get more time and see if i cant find the sales quote.

Also ive looked at your diagram, and while i cant say your Trump rendering is as good as the one being used, i can say that its height looks more realistic, like its "roof" is actually at 301m, the current trump rendering makes it look like its 298...and it is noticable unfortunetly.
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Honestly, with the Ritz having started sales, many of those buyers who may have chosen Trump, might have chosen the Ritz instead. The Ritz Sales were doing very well, and I think because of the location. Trump is way overpriced in an average location. He should be lowering prices not raising them.

Last I heard sales were at about 60%, but they were increasing the number of the hotel/condo units as most of the big multi-million condo suites were not selling.

This was from late last year:

Condo: 200/286 units = 70%
Hotel/condo: 52/147 units = 35%

Total = 58%

Keep in mind these are at least 8 months old.
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Honestly, with the Ritz having started sales, many of those buyers who may have chosen Trump, might have chosen the Ritz instead. The Ritz Sales were doing very well, and I think because of the location. Trump is way overpriced in an average location. He should be lowering prices not raising them.

Last I heard sales were at about 60%, but they were increasing the number of the hotel/condo units as most of the big multi-million condo suites were not selling.

This was from late last year:

Condo: 200/286 units = 70%
Hotel/condo: 52/147 units = 35%

Total = 58%

Keep in mind these are at least 8 months old.
8 months old? yikes, i think ill go looking for those SSC stats
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Do you know what percent of total revenue that is?

After all, it's the $$$ that counts, and selling most of your cheap units but not too many of the expensive ones doesn't amount to as much money as one might assume looking at unit totals.

The people in charge of TTT better get their asses in gear though, before more people come along and siphon potential buyers (Ritz-Carlton, Shangri-La already have, maybe Sapphire will if Harry ever gets his act together?). I have a feeling that once they get shovels in the ground, sales will pick up.
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Do you know what percent of total revenue that is?

After all, it's the $$$ that counts, and selling most of your cheap units but not too many of the expensive ones doesn't amount to as much money as one might assume looking at unit totals.

The people in charge of TTT better get their asses in gear though, before more people come along and siphon potential buyers (Ritz-Carlton, Shangri-La already have, maybe Sapphire will if Harry ever gets his act together?). I have a feeling that once they get shovels in the ground, sales will pick up.
Noop, i have not seen any stats on that unfortunelty, buti would agree with you that once the tower starts construction people may not be so reluctant to buy. Ritz and Shangri-la..yes, but I doubte Sapphire will siphon any buyers because it targets a more middle class group of people who dont have $500,000 or $1.5 million just lying around.
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Hmm, maybe not Sapphire, but the 4 Seasons might.

Besides, I'll be surprised if Sapphire starts construction before 2008.
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Hmm, maybe not Sapphire, but the 4 Seasons might.

Besides, I'll be surprised if Sapphire starts construction before 2008.
i never thought of that one, it might, but it to is pretty "upper class". I think the new ROCP 3 will, especially since its around the same height as Four Seasons (196m)
Ill be suprised if Sapphire ever starts construction lol.
Well maybe not, i have faith in Stinson, but if it start, ill be one of the happier persons on Earth.
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Hey guys, i made a new render for the BA Tower, but im going to post it here first before submitting it to the diagrams because i dont know if its 100% accurate. I based it on the latest BA rendering. Any input or constructive critisism would be more then welcome.

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Much better. My only suggestions would be:

1) The heritage facade "sticks out" from the rest of the building a bit, so if you're doing a corner drawing, you should show this.

2) Try to improve the lobby area a little. If I'm not mistaken, the lobby is set back a little from the rest of the building.

Other than that, it looks a lot better.
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Much better. My only suggestions would be:

1) The heritage facade "sticks out" from the rest of the building a bit, so if you're doing a corner drawing, you should show this.

2) Try to improve the lobby area a little. If I'm not mistaken, the lobby is set back a little from the rest of the building.

Other than that, it looks a lot better.
Thanx Jared, i totaly forgot to put the Lobby in!
Ill post the edited version when im done.
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Jared: They keep advertising that TTT is over $200 million sold, but who knows how accurate that is.
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old new one lol


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i submitted it..but i think it was rejected and i dont see why...its much more accurate then the last one, the roof and roof element heights are correct, the background is transparent.....
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LMich seems to thinks you were copying from a photo, but I dont think so. If you didn't, PM him and tell him you didn't, then add it again.

One final suggestion: tone down the clouds a little bit, the glass looks a little TOO reflective, which might also cause some problems, we have rejective stuff in the past if there were too many cloud effects.
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LMich seems to thinks you were copying from a photo, but I dont think so. If you didn't, PM him and tell him you didn't, then add it again.

One final suggestion: tone down the clouds a little bit, the glass looks a little TOO reflective, which might also cause some problems, we have rejective stuff in the past if there were too many cloud effects.
Copying from a photo?? the tower isnt even built how could i be copying from a photo lmao?

Anyway, ill get right on that.

I suppose i should feel complimented actually, if he thinks i took it from a real photograph of a glass skinned skyscraper then it cant be a bad rendering lol!
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does anyone know what is going on with this project?

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