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va.gov.

I've been there several times.....first class ...gold standard medical care.

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for that matter


Is this cool looking theater still standing?


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Google Maps 3-D view is your friend, the theater is still there. Here's the Google Street View:
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The back of the theater is on Wilshire.
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2018, 12:43 PM
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Excellent! It's still standing. *wipes brow*
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Old Posted Dec 9, 2018, 2:54 PM
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In this snippet from Cheryl Crane's autobiography, she says the club was The Summit which was located at 6507 Sunset Blvd.


Google Books - Detour: A Hollywood Story
Thanks so much Noir Noir. I looked everywhere trying to figure out the name of the club. (except for Cheryl Crain's book)
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master plan to reshape the VA LA campus. Even now its a world-class medical center with a budget in the billions.

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Hmmm...so what's the difference between Brentwood and Wadsworth Hospitals?


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I'll post a portion of the 1956 aerial later, but the configuration of the buildings on it seem to indicate that the Wadsworth buildings were razed to build the West LA VA. The Bentwood buildings mostly remain.

I guess the difference between the two(other than still standing) is Brentwood is north of Wilshire and Wadsworth was south of Wilshire.
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Thanks for answering my question BillinGlendale. I appreciate it.

If I remember correctly, there's also a hazardous waste dump nearby (detritus from the hospital and labs).

I'ii check Google-Earth to see if I can figure out where it is.

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Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.


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Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.

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Old Posted Dec 10, 2018, 12:13 AM
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Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.


wiki

Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.
The chapel is still there, you can see it from Wilshire. I'm pretty sure the 1890 buildings were long gone before the 1960's, the current buildings show up on the 1956 aerial.
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Here's how the V.A. Hospital looked when it was known as the Sawtelle Veterans Home.


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Most of the 1890s era buildings were demolished in the 1960s.

I'm pretty sure we have seen this amazing photograph once (or twice) before on NLA.
Many of the patients were Civil War veterans.
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Thanks for answering my question BillinGlendale. I appreciate it.

If I remember correctly, there's also a hazardous waste dump nearby (detritus from the hospital and labs).

I'ii check Google-Earth to see if I can figure out where it is.
Many or most of those old buildings were torn down due to earthquake damage and obvious obsolescence. Most hospital buildings have a life-span of about 50 years.
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va.gov.

I've been there several times.....first class ...gold standard medical care.
The size of the tallest palm trees suggests that they are the original ones which we see in the early photo downthread (very slow growing!). Palm trees take to transplanting quite well, so they might well have been shifted to accommodate a new layout; but I'd bet they are the palms original to the site.
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The chapel is still there, you can see it from Wilshire. I'm pretty sure the 1890 buildings were long gone before the 1960's, the current buildings show up on the 1956 aerial.
It appears that one of the buildings(besides the chapel, which is still there) in the ER's photo of the 1890 buildings at the VA is still there in the 1951 postcard.

Here's two clips from the 1951 postcard that I believe shows the same building(circled in blue):
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It looks like all the 1890 buildings survived until the mid-30's, that's when changes started to take place(I think CBD's comment about earthquake damage is spot on). Here's the 1934 aerial, all of the 1890 buildings appear to be intact(I've circled the chapel in blue to assist in orientation):
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Four years later in 1938, things have changed; the buildings that we see today at the VA have begun to be built and the 1890 building at the rear of ER's photo has been replaced.
FrameFinder

In 1947, after World War II, more of the 1890 building were razed and we are left with only the one building(in addition to the chapel and the library):

FrameFinder

Here's what it currently looks like:
Google Maps

ETA: I was focusing on the eastern side of the campus, it looks like two of the older buildings on the western side survived into the 1950's and are pictured on ER's postcard. They are not present in the current Google Map of the area.

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Name the Cars

Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.


elvispresleypedia

This photo looks like it was taken by some fan hiding in the bushes.






From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.


elvispresleypedia

Again, fan in the bushes.





And finally.....(here's the last one)


elvispresleypedia

Isn't that a horse trailer?



some additional info:

"Feb. 3, 1966 - Elvis arrives in Los Angeles and settles into his new home at 10550 Rocca Place in Bel Air,
like the Bellagio house, is rented from Mrs. Reginald Owens."
from elvispresleypedia

Elvis also did some recording at this rental property. (mostly in 1966)

I can't tell if the current house at 10550 Rocca Place is the same house shown in the snapshots.
GSV

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Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot

Elvis also did some recording at this rental property. (mostly in 1966)

I can't tell if the current house at 10550 Rocca Place is the same house shown in the snapshots.
GSV

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The 1966 home is one story with a flat roof.

The 2018 GSV shows a 2 story house with a hipped roof. ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/Rf-iso1.gif
Different houses....[?]
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Old Posted Dec 10, 2018, 6:20 AM
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The 1966 home is one story with a flat roof.

The 2018 GSV shows a 2 story house with a hipped roof. ref: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aa/Rf-iso1.gif
Different houses....[?]
It's LA, it just had some work done.
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"Just general alterations . . . . and what the hell, add a second story as well." (1978)



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"Just general alterations . . . . and what the hell, add a second story as well." (1978)



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Thanks guys for the updates. I would call adding a second story, uber major alterations.
We can see by the Application that there was a conflict with the price. Betcha it cost more than the $300K.
Someone was maybe concerned with the new property tax
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Since you all did so well identifying the cars in the Hotel Cecil Parking Lot


I thought you might like to try your hand at identfying the vehicles parked at Elvis' rented home on Rocca Place.

From the looks of this next pic, Elvis needed a parking attendant more than the Hotel Cecil.


elvispresleypedia
So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera. Correction courtesy of Gaylord Wilshire, that is a Pontiac

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So many cars to identify here so I'll get it started with some in this photo. The two white convertibles in the middle, one with the top up and one with it down are 1964 Cadillacs. I'm pretty sure the black on black convertible is a 1963 Caddy. The two door second from the bottom looks to be a 1966 Buick Riviera.
The two station wagons are either Olds Vista Cruisers or Buick Sport Wagons (differed only in trim), probable 1964/65 models.

Cheers,

Earl
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